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Elderly dad and wife expect me to care for her

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Adrienne23 · 04/01/2025 00:10

My dad left home for his now wife of 50 years when I was 8 years old and they by and large lived their own very comfortable lives together, seeing me around 4 times a year until my teens, then we saw very little of one and other aside from speak on the phone twice a month or so. My mother raised me in relative poverty with not much financial support from my dad at the time he used to claim he didn’t have the means and we only discovered in recent years that he and his wife were far better off than they said they were. My mother passed away nearly 10 years ago from a long illness and I was her main support, although she tried very hard to maintain her independence and not lean on me unless absolutely necessary mainly in order to protect my emotional and physical well being.
I started to see more of my dad since my mothers death and increased communication considerably during lockdown. In the past few months his wife has been diagnosed with cancer and they now both absolutely expect me to provide all sorts of support and care for them both as my dad’s health is also poor. I am starting to feeling incredibly resentful. I worked hard on myself following my mother’s death, getting a new job, social life, etc, but I am still deeply affected by the loss. The level of support my dad and his wife expect from me far exceeds the support my mum expected (or received) from me, I get calls and messages about the health condition of both, several times a day irrespective of what I am doing, demands to drive to and from appointments, visit the house, messages that seem urgent and can’t wait only to just want to chat about themselves, and so on. How can I draw boundaries now before I am completely consumed by them and their needs to the detriment of my own?

OP posts:
WidgetDigit2022 · 04/01/2025 09:08

They’re using you. He abandoned you and his first wife.

”Ive been reflecting on my current priorities dad, now my dear mum has passed, and Im going to concentrate on myself and enjoy my life while I can, it’s what mum would have wanted. You know you weren’t there for me when I needed you the most, as your innocent child who grew up with such a lack of fatherly support and love, and I can’t sacrifice my good years on you and your wife when you didn’t do the same for me. I know you’ll understand. All the best of course and hopefully we can catch up at Easter.”

TotemPolly · 04/01/2025 09:09

Your father had an obligation to you as a child , and he chose to ignore that and live the life he wanted .
He lost any sort of obligation back . I'd remain as people that contact each other occasionally , but nothing else .
His ' other family ' can step up or he can pay for help .

TheGhostOfTheYearYetToCome · 04/01/2025 09:09

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 04/01/2025 09:00

How old are your parents, for heaven’s sake?

Agree, computers have been around widly since the 80's, 46% of the population had a mobile phone in 1999 (according to Google) and this rose rapidly over the early 2000's.

September1013 · 04/01/2025 09:11

I think some of these suggested responses are very confrontational and could escalate the situation and create lots of unnecessary drama. Remember you don’t need to justify or explain your decision to them.

A “grey rock”/gradual withdrawal approach might be easier: very calm and without getting emotional or having long discussions. Don’t answer all their calls. Sorry I’m working so can’t help with that. Sorry I’ve got something on tomorrow so won’t be able to drive you. If they ask what they should do instead, a breezy “I don’t know but I’m sure you’ll be able to work something out” and then end the conversation. Disinterested, indifferent, unemotional. They won’t be able to twist what you say or get into arguments and they will eventually give up.

godmum56 · 04/01/2025 09:14

Same advice as I always give. Decide what you can do/are prepared to do, tell them and then stick to it.

LostittoBostik · 04/01/2025 09:15

BoxOfCats · 04/01/2025 00:23

Just be unavailable. "Sorry, I'm not available to help with that, you'll need to make alternative arrangements." If they bombard you with calls and messages, just ignore them and respond when it's convenient. Tell them you are busy but you will call them on xxx day (whenever actually suits you). They will get the message eventually.

This. Decide on your boundaries and set them. Grey rock anything hassling from them. Seek counselling to help you respect your own boundaries and time/freedom.
This is not your mother. You do not owe her any care. And your father also left when you needed care. It's ok to be clear with yourself about what you feel is appropriate for you to do/not do -- and no guilt even if that is very minimal support.

Rosscameasdoody · 04/01/2025 09:15

pikkumyy77 · 04/01/2025 00:32

He abandoned OP 50 years ago. Not in 1850. I presume he managed modern life just fine.

What on earth are you on about - this is good advice. Reiterating that there are services available to meet their needs, and which they are clearly able to afford, but expecting OP to do for nothing.

Codlingmoths · 04/01/2025 09:16

‘Hey dad, you know how when you left our family you saw me maybe 4 times a year and didn’t financially support my mum to bring me up? If you wanted to have an adult child support you when you got old and unwell you should have been a parent when your child was growing up instead of leaving them in hardship. Too late for that now.’

Codlingmoths · 04/01/2025 09:17

AmersLee · 04/01/2025 09:07

My elderly parents can't do any of that, their electronic gadgets are just not up to date enough and they won't spend to upgrade.

Use of current technology has therefore got away from them. Just yesterday, when my DM said she can't/hasn't used her new airfrier ( bought as a gift for them by someone else), I suggested she used ‘google’ for recipes. Her response ‘I can't ‘google’.

They would also struggle physically to put away a large online shop.
No Uber near them either.

None of this is in any way the ops problem though.

FoolishHips · 04/01/2025 09:17

I'd tell them the truth. Don't let your dad die without knowing that you resent the fact that he didn't give your or your mum any support and now expects that from you.

Also, your mum tried to protect you and she absolutely wouldn't want this for you. I imagine that if he'd been more supportive over the years her health wouldn't have been so poor. I'd tell him this too.

If it destroys your relationship then so be it. They're just using you anyway so it's no loss. Enjoy your life now as your mum would want you to.

TheGhostOfTheYearYetToCome · 04/01/2025 09:17

AmersLee · 04/01/2025 09:07

My elderly parents can't do any of that, their electronic gadgets are just not up to date enough and they won't spend to upgrade.

Use of current technology has therefore got away from them. Just yesterday, when my DM said she can't/hasn't used her new airfrier ( bought as a gift for them by someone else), I suggested she used ‘google’ for recipes. Her response ‘I can't ‘google’.

They would also struggle physically to put away a large online shop.
No Uber near them either.

But we all should do what we can to future proof ourselves. Unless they are in their 90's excluding disability there isn't really a reason for them not to be able to Google. I know people choose to get 'old of thought' but if you are 90 you were 65 in 2000..

You don't need a large shop if is delivered, lots of people have the equivalent of a basket delivered.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 04/01/2025 09:21

TheGhostOfTheYearYetToCome · 04/01/2025 09:09

Agree, computers have been around widly since the 80's, 46% of the population had a mobile phone in 1999 (according to Google) and this rose rapidly over the early 2000's.

I dare say similar has happened in the past. My DM (born 1916 and highly capable) had an old friend of apparently equal intelligence - they’d both held quite responsible jobs before marriage/babies, but once her husband died the friend had no clue about managing anything. During her entire long married life she’d never even written a cheque, or paid a bill. She’d been given housekeeping money every week, and that was it.

And I gather it wasn’t a case of a controlling husband - by all accounts the marriage had been a very happy one. But even my DM found it almost impossible to understand.

Rosscameasdoody · 04/01/2025 09:21

Nope. Don’t allow yourself to get sucked into this. Your dad’s wife’s health is absolutely nothing to do with you and everything to do with him. He’s the one who should be liaising with social care and NHS to get things organised, not you. There are services available, which from what you’ve said, they can well afford. You need to make it clear now, from the start, that you will not be getting involved. They’ve made their bed and the fact that they’ve now had a life event to make them realise that, is not your problem.

Franjipanl8r · 04/01/2025 09:23

There are no medals for looking after your dad and his wife and giving up your life in the process. It’s your time to grieve and rest and live, don’t let them rob that from you.

Rosscameasdoody · 04/01/2025 09:24

You don't need a large shop if is delivered, lots of people have the equivalent of a basket delivered.

Don’t most online supermarkets have a minimum spend charge ?

MsCactus · 04/01/2025 09:26

He wasn't there for you when you needed care as a child - you should do exactly the same for him.

Call them once a month and just ignore their calls - when they ask you to take them to appointments just invent an excuse or forget to reply to their calls or messages.

They'll soon stop trying. How cheeky of them to ask this of you considering how little he cared for you when you needed help and support as a child!!!

Mrsredlipstick · 04/01/2025 09:28

I looked after both my parents in my home and it's nearly killed me. I lost hundreds of thousands in earnings and my own family suffered. I developed a major health condition.
You owe this man and his second wife nothing. She needs help and has her own biological children. They need to step up. Organise shopping but do not put yourself down as medical point of contact. You will get no peace and little help especially if you're single/child free.
Quite frankly it's a bloody cheek as you had suffered his lack of decency in childhood. Blood ties do not make you a slave to these people. He sh*t his nest years ago. Keep saying no.

Thunderlegs · 04/01/2025 09:28

Stop assuming that when they ring you it's for a valid reason. If there is a crisis and something goes wrong, it's not on you to fix it, or your fault if it isn't fixed. If you believe that it will be much easier to draw boundaries. It's important to address the behaviour directly I think so they understand the issue. Explain that they called you over for something important but it turned out not to be. As a result, you will call over at set times (eg Tuesday evening six-seven). Explain that they need to arrange their own transport to appointments as you are not available. Point them to home carers if need be.

I don't think it's necessary to point out your history together, but if you do I find these things come across best if you're matter of fact and even breezy, so it can't be quibbled. Like if they pull 'you're my daughter, you should be helping us' then say 'when you left me with my mum we lived in poverty. I don't feel any obligation to you but I will help out this much because I am a nice person.' No need to get emotional yourself.

Bestfootforward11 · 04/01/2025 09:31

This sounds very hard and painful too. I can see how you might want to maintain some kind of contact especially as you’ve sadly lost your mum but not wanting to care for them in the way they expect is completely reasonable. My parents are similar to your mum, they ask for little and I do all that I can. They want to put me first as your mum did. I think your dad is putting himself and his wife first as they did so long ago. The suggestions to say you are unavailable at times and answer messages when is convenient are good ones. But I suspect it will eventually lead to some kind of fallout as they will try to guilt trip you and put pressure. I’m sorry if that happens because I know it’ll be disappointing. You sound like a lovely and kind woman and you need to put yourself first. It’s what your mum would have wanted for you.

JFDIYOLO · 04/01/2025 09:34

Dont say 'sorry.' Ever.

Say No.

Gingersprouts · 04/01/2025 09:36

Sorry OP, this is really tough. Your Mum would be proud of you not jumping up to their every whim I’m sure.

I imagine this ‘Dad buggers off then expects care when he’s old’ is quite a common scenario - if you consider just how many absentee fathers there are. He is obviously deluded.

YYURYYUCICYYUR4ME · 04/01/2025 09:36

You say no, you are not their carer, have no intention of being one. Other services, when they know of a living relative, often tell service users to ask family for help, pushing issues away from their service. You have no option but to be blunt with everyone.

BadSkiingMum · 04/01/2025 09:40

The first thing is to cut down on the messages and calls, as that will remove a huge mental load.

Tell them that you are having trouble with your phone and will be changing the number. Buy a cheap phone that you use only to hear from them and keep mostly on silent or turned off. Block them on your proper number. Be slow about giving them the new number. Check it a couple of times a week. Or less, if you want.

Be far less responsive and much more bland and neutral. Don’t express concern or ‘problem solve’ - when they tell you about a problem or development just say ‘I’m sorry to hear that.’ Or make a practical suggestion about them getting in professional help.

Only give exactly what you choose to do. You owe them literally nothing.

Chocolately · 04/01/2025 09:40

5foot5 · 04/01/2025 00:37

"Sorry to hear about your current health problems. I will, of course, stay in touch and come to visit when I can.

"However, I think you should make other day-to-day care arrangements. You were both happy to leave Mum and I to manage with minimal financial or practical help from you when I was a child, so you and your wife cannot reasonably expect a great deal of support and care from me now."

This is perfect. Adult social services, and using their own resources to outsource any help they require. You aren't their staff.

TheGhostOfTheYearYetToCome · 04/01/2025 09:41

Rosscameasdoody · 04/01/2025 09:24

You don't need a large shop if is delivered, lots of people have the equivalent of a basket delivered.

Don’t most online supermarkets have a minimum spend charge ?

Tesco Whoosh is £15, if less than that a £2 charge is added

Even proper Tesco delivery - charge is £5 if under £50 which is cheaper than a taxi or using a car, plus you can get heavy things delivered into your kitchen.

With deliveroo, Amazon groceries and the other supermarkets there are probably other cheaper options as well.