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Elderly dad and wife expect me to care for her

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Adrienne23 · 04/01/2025 00:10

My dad left home for his now wife of 50 years when I was 8 years old and they by and large lived their own very comfortable lives together, seeing me around 4 times a year until my teens, then we saw very little of one and other aside from speak on the phone twice a month or so. My mother raised me in relative poverty with not much financial support from my dad at the time he used to claim he didn’t have the means and we only discovered in recent years that he and his wife were far better off than they said they were. My mother passed away nearly 10 years ago from a long illness and I was her main support, although she tried very hard to maintain her independence and not lean on me unless absolutely necessary mainly in order to protect my emotional and physical well being.
I started to see more of my dad since my mothers death and increased communication considerably during lockdown. In the past few months his wife has been diagnosed with cancer and they now both absolutely expect me to provide all sorts of support and care for them both as my dad’s health is also poor. I am starting to feeling incredibly resentful. I worked hard on myself following my mother’s death, getting a new job, social life, etc, but I am still deeply affected by the loss. The level of support my dad and his wife expect from me far exceeds the support my mum expected (or received) from me, I get calls and messages about the health condition of both, several times a day irrespective of what I am doing, demands to drive to and from appointments, visit the house, messages that seem urgent and can’t wait only to just want to chat about themselves, and so on. How can I draw boundaries now before I am completely consumed by them and their needs to the detriment of my own?

OP posts:
BBBusterkeys · 07/01/2025 00:54

“Dear Dad. I will provide you and your wife as much support in your old age as you gave me in my childhood. You can expect a visit from me 4x a year for the next 5 years. After that, it will be sporadic, as and when it suits me. I will also provide you with zero financial support as you did not provide sufficient for me to not grow up in poverty. It is sadly a case of your reap what you sow. Goodbye.”

MeTooOverHere · 07/01/2025 02:00

LookItsMeAgain · 06/01/2025 11:14

@BodyKeepingScore - I think @username299 was only suggesting that the OP shows her father how to do these things once and once only so that if he was unfamiliar (as a lot of people on the boards have since replied that their parents wouldn't be able to set up a 'meals on wheels' delivery to themselves or similar) and that by doing the needs assessment with Social Services, they would be on their radar now - there wouldn't be any intention for the OP to maintain this level of care. It's the "showing/teaching a man how to fish" analogy.

@Adrienne23 - how are things now? Have you told your father that you have no intention of caring for his sick wife or for him?

Agree. That way, if anyone challenges OP she can simply point out she did all these things to "help them" as she is busy with her own full life.

Imisschampagne · 07/01/2025 08:57

Wonder what OP decided on how to go forward …

Kave · 09/01/2025 14:31

Were they so cold hearted in your upbringing? You clearly have no feelings of affection, not even a sense of duty. The only reason you stay in contact at all is for your inheritance. Have the decency to tell them that so that they can make alternative arrangements in their will. I would not treat my worst enemy like that. You are not the adult, you are the spoilt teenage brat who thinks other people exist merely to be used. If my children treated me as you appear to treat your parents, they’d be written out of my will straight away.

Nerdlings · 09/01/2025 14:36

Kave · 09/01/2025 14:31

Were they so cold hearted in your upbringing? You clearly have no feelings of affection, not even a sense of duty. The only reason you stay in contact at all is for your inheritance. Have the decency to tell them that so that they can make alternative arrangements in their will. I would not treat my worst enemy like that. You are not the adult, you are the spoilt teenage brat who thinks other people exist merely to be used. If my children treated me as you appear to treat your parents, they’d be written out of my will straight away.

Wow. talk about missing the point. Why should she have 'a sense of duty'? A parent is not automatically entitled to the love and respect of their children. They should earn it.

And where was the OP's father's sense of duty when he walked out on his 8 year old child?

LostittoBostik · 09/01/2025 14:36

Kave · 09/01/2025 14:31

Were they so cold hearted in your upbringing? You clearly have no feelings of affection, not even a sense of duty. The only reason you stay in contact at all is for your inheritance. Have the decency to tell them that so that they can make alternative arrangements in their will. I would not treat my worst enemy like that. You are not the adult, you are the spoilt teenage brat who thinks other people exist merely to be used. If my children treated me as you appear to treat your parents, they’d be written out of my will straight away.

Did you actually read the OP?

The father left her mother for another woman when she was a child and then saw her absolutely maximum four times a year until a few years ago after her mother died - and he now expects her to step in and care for a woman he left her mother for.

She owes neither of them anything. And she deserves her inheritance for doing anything at all.

Lostinmusic22 · 09/01/2025 14:37

Kave · 09/01/2025 14:31

Were they so cold hearted in your upbringing? You clearly have no feelings of affection, not even a sense of duty. The only reason you stay in contact at all is for your inheritance. Have the decency to tell them that so that they can make alternative arrangements in their will. I would not treat my worst enemy like that. You are not the adult, you are the spoilt teenage brat who thinks other people exist merely to be used. If my children treated me as you appear to treat your parents, they’d be written out of my will straight away.

She was an abused and abandoned child my friend, she owes her parents nothing at all.

verdantverdure · 09/01/2025 16:29

Kave · 09/01/2025 14:31

Were they so cold hearted in your upbringing? You clearly have no feelings of affection, not even a sense of duty. The only reason you stay in contact at all is for your inheritance. Have the decency to tell them that so that they can make alternative arrangements in their will. I would not treat my worst enemy like that. You are not the adult, you are the spoilt teenage brat who thinks other people exist merely to be used. If my children treated me as you appear to treat your parents, they’d be written out of my will straight away.

Are you my in laws?

Because they too go immediately off the deep end into threats and name calling and accusations at the idea that someone might say no to them too.

verdantverdure · 09/01/2025 16:35

Kave · 09/01/2025 14:31

Were they so cold hearted in your upbringing? You clearly have no feelings of affection, not even a sense of duty. The only reason you stay in contact at all is for your inheritance. Have the decency to tell them that so that they can make alternative arrangements in their will. I would not treat my worst enemy like that. You are not the adult, you are the spoilt teenage brat who thinks other people exist merely to be used. If my children treated me as you appear to treat your parents, they’d be written out of my will straight away.

Lady Catherine De Bourgh vibes.

LBFseBrom · 09/01/2025 20:05

verdantverdure · 09/01/2025 16:35

Lady Catherine De Bourgh vibes.

Yes!

thepariscrimefiles · 09/01/2025 20:28

Kave · 09/01/2025 14:31

Were they so cold hearted in your upbringing? You clearly have no feelings of affection, not even a sense of duty. The only reason you stay in contact at all is for your inheritance. Have the decency to tell them that so that they can make alternative arrangements in their will. I would not treat my worst enemy like that. You are not the adult, you are the spoilt teenage brat who thinks other people exist merely to be used. If my children treated me as you appear to treat your parents, they’d be written out of my will straight away.

Can't you read? If you had read the OP properly and had a scrap of empathy and emotional intelligence (or any intelligence at all come to that), you would have seen that OP's dad left her and her mum for her step-mother, left them in poverty and saw his child 4 times a year. OP cared for her mum through a long illness until she died.

Where does OP even mention an inheritance and why the fuck would you call OP a spoilt teenage brat who thinks other people exist merely to be used. Are you even posting on the right thread? OP's dad had an affair, left for the affair partner and pretty much abandoned his daughter and has given her nothing. He now expects her to care for himself and his wife. Her dad and her step mum are the ones behaving like spoilt brats, expecting the daughter the dad abandoned to be an unpaid carer for them both.

Magamom · 09/01/2025 22:03

You mentioned they only saw you 4 times a year. Tell them you will also only stop by 4 times a year. Do not do anything special for them; they didn’t start showing they cared about u til u were already grown up and they started having health issues.

LoyalShaker · 11/01/2025 17:58

So sorry about your mum and the difficult time you had growing up. It sounds as if they are really taking you for granted and I am not surprised you feel resentful. I would sit down with them both and set some boundaries. Decide beforehand what you are willing to do for them ( I got the impression you don't mind helping out a bit?) and then tell them that they need to get carers to provide the other help they require. Does your father's wife have any family to help out as well?
I am afraid older people can be very selfish when it comes to their needs and it is very often too much to expect.
You deserve time for yourself now.

Fromthestart · 11/01/2025 18:26

Your inner child is sending a message to you loud and clear please listen. Some people are takers and need boundaries set. This is not your responsibility. X

Thebellofstclements · 11/01/2025 18:40

Can you adjust your phone settings so you only see their messages or receive their calls between eg. 7-8pm? Probably commuting hours better if on train etc.
Harsh reality: Do you stand to inherit? It may be worth considering.
If not bothered on inheritance I'd drop them to once a week comms and tell your father why.
If you want inheritance and this may affect it then just consider it at cost per hour.
I do realise this sounds awful, by the way!

MaggieHM · 11/01/2025 19:01

Tell them to refer themselves to the local Social Services or MacMillan Cancer Care.

Pupinskipops · 11/01/2025 19:04

Randomontheinternet25 · 04/01/2025 00:27

Id tell them to look into adult social care, if they can no longer look after themselves.

I agree. All these scathing comments are totally inappropriate - they're an elderly couple (presumably) nearing the end of their lives in what must be for them a very shrunken world. They're probably feeling a bit frightened, a bit regretful and and all sorts of other emotions we, as younger people with a life to live, can't imagine. In my experience, as people contemplate their own demise they want to draw closer to their families. The people here calling them derogatory names will likely do the same when their time comes.

That said, I feel a huge amount of empathy for the OP - I'm going through something not too dissimilar myself. It's so hard. I think the OP should be firm in saying she's not in a position to help them directly, but to be there, as you suggest, to signpost them to specific sources of local support, repeatedly if necessary (which might involve a little research initially). Whether they choose to accept that support is a different matter, but at least the OP will have tried and will hopefully not have any feelings of guilt that she might have abandoned them.

Pherian · 11/01/2025 19:48

People in their 70’s are more capable than you think. My farther in law is 76 and he still drives, uses smart phones, does online shopping (he’s addicted to amazon). He’s V in poor health.

My mother in law is 66 and she still works on care. Drives, uses smart phones, etc.

Unless they have lost of mental faculty they should be more than capable of learning if they don’t know how and they don’t want to learn - well… that’s not OP’s responsibility.

FartyPants9 · 11/01/2025 19:51

She's not your mum, you don't owe her anything, also why can't your dad take care of her?

JoBoJoBo · 11/01/2025 19:57

Kave · 09/01/2025 14:31

Were they so cold hearted in your upbringing? You clearly have no feelings of affection, not even a sense of duty. The only reason you stay in contact at all is for your inheritance. Have the decency to tell them that so that they can make alternative arrangements in their will. I would not treat my worst enemy like that. You are not the adult, you are the spoilt teenage brat who thinks other people exist merely to be used. If my children treated me as you appear to treat your parents, they’d be written out of my will straight away.

He walked out on her when she was small.Why does she have a duty to care for him? He did not give op's Mother money so she grew up without things .

VegTrug · 11/01/2025 20:05

I wouldn't ever have spoken to him again upon discovering how well off he was and how much he made your mother suffer. I say that as someone in your mum's position right now. I was in the queue at the food bank back in 2016, at the very same moment he was in Las Vegas gambling thousands. This just days after he'd called the CMS to request the £24.50 per month he paid, be recalculated due to his hardship.
Anyway, I digress! Categorically do not provide any care whatsoever. You have zero obligation to him. None

TimeHasCome · 11/01/2025 20:16

I’m in my 70s and don’t know any of my friends of my sort of age who couldn’t do all of those things

thepariscrimefiles · 11/01/2025 21:47

Pupinskipops · 11/01/2025 19:04

I agree. All these scathing comments are totally inappropriate - they're an elderly couple (presumably) nearing the end of their lives in what must be for them a very shrunken world. They're probably feeling a bit frightened, a bit regretful and and all sorts of other emotions we, as younger people with a life to live, can't imagine. In my experience, as people contemplate their own demise they want to draw closer to their families. The people here calling them derogatory names will likely do the same when their time comes.

That said, I feel a huge amount of empathy for the OP - I'm going through something not too dissimilar myself. It's so hard. I think the OP should be firm in saying she's not in a position to help them directly, but to be there, as you suggest, to signpost them to specific sources of local support, repeatedly if necessary (which might involve a little research initially). Whether they choose to accept that support is a different matter, but at least the OP will have tried and will hopefully not have any feelings of guilt that she might have abandoned them.

Why are the scathing comments about OP's father and step-mother inappropriate, given their treatment of OP and her mum? There is no indication that they have ever done a kind or caring thing for OP, in fact the complete opposite. Becoming elderly, frail and ill doesn't wipe the slate clean or turn selfish people into kind and reasonable people deserving of OP's compassion and help.

Marydoll5 · 11/01/2025 22:23

You are still grieving the loss of your mum which I am truly sorry for...its one of the worst losses. I think you know they don't deserve your help. You would end up as a personal slave.

It's hard enough caring for someone you love as you know. It's your time now to rebuild your life. Good luck and don't give in

HiEarthlings · 11/01/2025 23:39

Randomontheinternet25 · 04/01/2025 00:42

I know lots of ppl in their 70s would could not do any of that .

I know someone in their early 60's that wouldn't be able to do that.....

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