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Elderly dad and wife expect me to care for her

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Adrienne23 · 04/01/2025 00:10

My dad left home for his now wife of 50 years when I was 8 years old and they by and large lived their own very comfortable lives together, seeing me around 4 times a year until my teens, then we saw very little of one and other aside from speak on the phone twice a month or so. My mother raised me in relative poverty with not much financial support from my dad at the time he used to claim he didn’t have the means and we only discovered in recent years that he and his wife were far better off than they said they were. My mother passed away nearly 10 years ago from a long illness and I was her main support, although she tried very hard to maintain her independence and not lean on me unless absolutely necessary mainly in order to protect my emotional and physical well being.
I started to see more of my dad since my mothers death and increased communication considerably during lockdown. In the past few months his wife has been diagnosed with cancer and they now both absolutely expect me to provide all sorts of support and care for them both as my dad’s health is also poor. I am starting to feeling incredibly resentful. I worked hard on myself following my mother’s death, getting a new job, social life, etc, but I am still deeply affected by the loss. The level of support my dad and his wife expect from me far exceeds the support my mum expected (or received) from me, I get calls and messages about the health condition of both, several times a day irrespective of what I am doing, demands to drive to and from appointments, visit the house, messages that seem urgent and can’t wait only to just want to chat about themselves, and so on. How can I draw boundaries now before I am completely consumed by them and their needs to the detriment of my own?

OP posts:
BlueFlowers5 · 05/01/2025 17:43

They can pay for help?

TarotLady · 05/01/2025 17:52

I am estranged from my narcissistic Mother and have been for over a decade. Your post struck a chord with me. I am so sorry you are being taken advantage of like this. It's really difficult trying to be a decent person and having compassion for people who are elderly and ill. Trying to do the right thing whilst not being eroded mentally, physically and emotionally in the process.
However - if your Father and StepMother are still displaying the selfish sense of entitlement they have had since when you were young it's only going to get worse and more vampiric.
Get out now with your sanity and physical health intact. Put yourself first. Minimise your contact and be very boundaried as other posters have described so well.
You are not a bad person if you do this. It's called self care.

Mumof3confused · 05/01/2025 17:53

You don’t owe either of them a single thing.

YMZ · 05/01/2025 18:01

I’m sorry for your struggle. It is completely unfair that dad wants support, but the wife!? In these described circumstances out of the question. Stand firm in your boundaries and state why if necessary.
my father, rest his soul, told me I was rude to his g’friend . I wasn’t but did see her as a gold digger.
I let him know my opinion and nothing was said again. Don’t let yourself become a doormat. Karma is a bitch as they say.

Hotflushesandchilblains · 05/01/2025 18:26

Be very clear and explicit with them - I am concerned that, for understandable reasons, your need for support from me has increased massively and it is at a point which is not sustainable. I dont want us to get to a point where you are asking for help which I simply cannot give, so there needs to be a plan for other forms of support you can access. Happy to talk this through and explore this with you (if you are).

BlueLimeRun · 05/01/2025 18:32

I think you need to be blunt, don’t give them a window.

TheTavern · 05/01/2025 18:45

Just say
“Hi dad, really sorry about ‘Anne’s’ cancer diagnosis. It must be a difficult time for you both. On a practical front I can pop in on a Thursday between 4.30 and 7pm. Also please see list of services I have put together which I hope will be helpful. I can’t reply to your while Im working or travelling to and from work and I have to request days off 2 weeks in advance.
On a personal note I am a little taken aback that (a) you expect so much from me and (b) you don’t have others to call upon. When you left mum and me life was very difficult financially and emotionally but thanks to mum’s hard work and selflessness we got by. In her later years when she was in poor health I helped as much as possible despite her brave attempts to maintain her independence. My life is much busier now and I cannot respond/assist at the level you would like.
Kind regards Adrienne23”

incognitomummy · 05/01/2025 18:48

OP didn't come back. Hope you are ok.

WearyAuldWumman · 05/01/2025 18:53

incognitomummy · 05/01/2025 18:48

OP didn't come back. Hope you are ok.

I can't say I blame her: there are some people on this thread who are making the mistake of expecting her to provide at least some care for the feckless father and his wife. I don't care if it's "only" one evening a week.

Not. Her. Problem.

I helped out a teeny bit with a great-uncle and great-aunt and cared for both my parents and my husband. I loved them, so I'm philosophical about the detrimental effect that it's had on my health and wellbeing.

There's a snowball's chance that I'd have cared for someone who had treated me with the contempt with which that couple treated the OP.

Dagnabit · 05/01/2025 18:57

YANBU - I have a feeling that this will happen to me in a few years. I was brought up by my dad and step mom who have both now passed. I do have a relationship with my biological mom but it’s seeing her for an hour or so, every few weeks rather than a deep and meaningful relationship. She is married to a nice man and I do love her but I would resent being expected to look after her when elderly, seeing as she was happy to give me up when I was very young. I’m hoping she will sort out her care needs etc if it came to that. She has arranged her own funeral so is making an effort to not burden me which is good.

MerryMaker · 05/01/2025 19:00

username299 · 04/01/2025 00:27

I would organise a needs assessment with social services.
Teach them how to use Uber
Give them the number for Age UK
Give them the number of carers and food delivery should they need them

Direct all calls to voicemail and not respond to texts.

I am not saying OP should help at all. But it does not sound like they would qualify for a needs assessment or even need one. They are at the stage it sounds where they need taxis, meals services or ready made meals and are looking for emotional support.

WearyAuldWumman · 05/01/2025 19:02

MerryMaker · 05/01/2025 19:00

I am not saying OP should help at all. But it does not sound like they would qualify for a needs assessment or even need one. They are at the stage it sounds where they need taxis, meals services or ready made meals and are looking for emotional support.

I hear you, but if the OP approaches Social Services, they'll expect her to be the point of contact.

MerryMaker · 05/01/2025 19:04

@WearyAuldWumman I am saying Social Services will not help. They do not need personal care. The level of support they need has to be bought in by them. They can also talk to cancer charities for emotional support.

howrudeforme · 05/01/2025 19:06

Op it’s so hard to form boundaries. But you must

similar here.im pretty much estranged from df and step mum and half sister are vile. So get an text (after all these years) from step mum saying df has advanced dementia and if me and ds want to see him to arrange through her as he no longer uses his phone (made sense as when I reached out by text the answers were curt and rude - it was her responding).

picked him up and took him to my home. It was fine. Dropped him home but I have zero intention of doing this weekly or even monthly. That ship sailed. I’m lucky in that my DS is backing me up.

You must protect yourself OP

WearyAuldWumman · 05/01/2025 19:09

MerryMaker · 05/01/2025 19:04

@WearyAuldWumman I am saying Social Services will not help. They do not need personal care. The level of support they need has to be bought in by them. They can also talk to cancer charities for emotional support.

I'm not certain about that, given that the original post suggests that the father is in poor health and the stepmother's condition will deteriorate.

I agree, however, that they need to be buying in help for housework and shopping. In my area, SW will at least point older people in the direction of services that they can hire.

BlueLimeRun · 05/01/2025 19:15

i was suddenly next of kin for someone I hadn’t seen in over 20 years (no support before this, only difficulties).

Please do make those firm boundaries.
I’m now no contact- well they attempt contact which I don’t respond to. The expectation was very detrimental on my MH and they were v v manipulative. A previous poster mentioned rewriting history- that’s what these type of people conveniently do.

MerryMaker · 05/01/2025 19:19

WearyAuldWumman · 05/01/2025 19:09

I'm not certain about that, given that the original post suggests that the father is in poor health and the stepmother's condition will deteriorate.

I agree, however, that they need to be buying in help for housework and shopping. In my area, SW will at least point older people in the direction of services that they can hire.

Being in poor health and struggling will not get you help from Social Services. In fact if you have the money so would be self funded, even needing personal care will just mean you are given a list of care agencies to call to arrange carers. Although if you need a hospital bed and commode, etc you will be given these.
Nobody who needs help with housework, shopping and transport only gets help from SS. You need to organise and pay that for yourself.

Buffs · 05/01/2025 19:22

BESTAUNTB · 04/01/2025 00:54

I wouldn’t give an exit speech. I’d just withdraw, subtly, by being unavailable for 90% of their requests. They’ll get the message.

This! But personally I’d be unavailable for 99% of their requests. Good luck, YADNBU

caringcarer · 05/01/2025 19:28

BoxOfCats · 04/01/2025 00:23

Just be unavailable. "Sorry, I'm not available to help with that, you'll need to make alternative arrangements." If they bombard you with calls and messages, just ignore them and respond when it's convenient. Tell them you are busy but you will call them on xxx day (whenever actually suits you). They will get the message eventually.

I'd do this as well. Draw your boundaries.

WearyAuldWumman · 05/01/2025 19:28

MerryMaker · 05/01/2025 19:19

Being in poor health and struggling will not get you help from Social Services. In fact if you have the money so would be self funded, even needing personal care will just mean you are given a list of care agencies to call to arrange carers. Although if you need a hospital bed and commode, etc you will be given these.
Nobody who needs help with housework, shopping and transport only gets help from SS. You need to organise and pay that for yourself.

I understand that, but in my area SW will provide people with a list of care agencies plus a list of vetted companies for cleaning and personal shopping etc.

MerryMaker · 05/01/2025 19:32

How do they vet cleaning and shopping companies? I am astounded your local SS has time to do this.

Tikityboo · 05/01/2025 19:35

MerryMaker · 05/01/2025 19:32

How do they vet cleaning and shopping companies? I am astounded your local SS has time to do this.

https://www.ageuk.org.uk/services/in-your-area/home-help/

https://www.ageuk.org.uk/services/in-your-area/home-help

MerryMaker · 05/01/2025 19:37

I know Age UK a charity do this. But not Social Services.
OPs dad is best to contact charities for support like Age UK, MacMillan and Maggie's Centre

Jillybloop393 · 05/01/2025 19:43

LadyGaGasPokerFace · 04/01/2025 00:36

He wasn’t there for you in your hour of need when you were a child, why would you look after him or HIS wife who couldn’t give a toss about you as a child?

I still say ‘swivel’.

This. Ynbu - neither of them were there for you in your childhood, you did your bit by looking after your lovely mum ... don't be guilt tripped into doing more than you want - you owe them nothing!

pomers · 05/01/2025 19:47

Just don’t do it. Do not answer his calls when you are busy. Explain clearly that you will not be providing this service. Present him with details for carers, cleaners etc

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