What are people doing to their faces?!

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I am mid 30s. Colour my hair, wear makeup, thread my eyebrows etc so not completely natural but my goodness what are people doing to their faces?! Young women who are beautiful now have so much injected into their faces that they cannot move them at all. I was looking back at photos in my mid 20s and was wondering why on earth did I worry about my looks at all. Hindsight is wonderful! And I am despairing that girls younger than this have already started to inject Botox and fillers. The world is going mad and don’t even get me started on weight loss injections for those who are not clinically obese! I have two daughters and really feel so worried for them up.

I assume the universal things we find attractive (symmetrical features, clear skin etc) are because we interpret them as indicating youth and/or good health. It worries me that people are doing things to themselves that may actually be making them less healthy in order to project the opposite image. I had a friend who was very diligent with fake tan application because she didn’t like how pale she was without it but it turned out she was severely anaemic.

Your attempt to mask your judgement as "concern" is cute.

Yes I agree, people don’t have the right to say, ‘none of your business’ when the reason for this post is to get peoples feedback.
There must be a lot of worried parents of DD’s out there wondering what the future holds for them

It’s all about money and men, there’s no concern or care for the women and ‘girls’ disfiguring their faces… THIS…

Mrsredlipstick · Today 11:04

I've spent my whole career in the beauty industry and this is fashion that will change.
We had punk, make up sculpting and grunge.
We already see a return to classic polish for nails due to safety concerns and make up is less than it was five years ago. The kadashian look is out.
I have seen women with very thin lips and usually make up tricks solve this. The trout pout is just a male fantasy. It has a very vulgar name in the trade. My concerns are around the ages of the customers who have no wrinkles to fill. You can stretch pores if you pump them with injectables. The problem is no one wants to tell a customer no. No to tweekments, no to HEMA (a chemical found in professional nail enhancements) on eczema/psoriasis suffer's nails. They lose money and get in trouble with their bosses. What would shock most people is the beauty industry is run by men. They drive the narrative.
I'm still working but I can tell you there are only six top females in this industry. It's truly misogynist.

Mumsnet now has lots of posters screaming misogyny everytime people have an opinion about anybody other than a man. It's becoming a joke how they are using it to shut down other women.

False massive lips look ridiculous and I suspect are not healthy. I have friends with natural beautiful full lips but you can tell they are natural.

There is nothing wrong with women being concerned for their younger relatives.

Not too long ago people were horrified what Pete Burns did to himself.

Yes… This
Mrsredlipstick · Today 11:04

I've spent my whole career in the beauty industry and this is fashion that will change.
We had punk, make up sculpting and grunge.
We already see a return to classic polish for nails due to safety concerns and make up is less than it was five years ago. The kadashian look is out.
I have seen women with very thin lips and usually make up tricks solve this. The trout pout is just a male fantasy. It has a very vulgar name in the trade. My concerns are around the ages of the customers who have no wrinkles to fill. You can stretch pores if you pump them with injectables. The problem is no one wants to tell a customer no. No to tweekments, no to HEMA (a chemical found in professional nail enhancements) on eczema/psoriasis suffer's nails. They lose money and get in trouble with their bosses. What would shock most people is the beauty industry is run by men. They drive the narrative.
I'm still working but I can tell you there are only six top females in this industry. It's truly misogynist.

That had to be a joke? You take 20 women off the streets and they would all have a different hairstyle. Style is way more varied nowadays because of social media (and unfortunately fast fashion).

Yes, I had to shut down my MN account due to terrible vitriol, insults and accusations re misogyny. It was very upsetting. I’ve since opened another account but it was a very upsetting experience when I was simply offering an honest opinion without any prejudice.
Some users of this platform can be very accusatory without good reason and forget it’s a place where people openly ask for their help, advice and opinions on a given subject.

@WeCanOnlyDoOurBest beauty as they say is in the eye of the beholder.

I personally have not had tweekments as I trained as a make up artist and rattle with meds for a heath condition. I would have got the lot for free.
When I worked in the stores we were insulted for wearing too much make up. This always came from middle aged men discussing us with their wives. One said I looked like a street walker to which I replied 'do I sir, surely youd know better than me!'
Women are always encouraged to change their appearance to meet on screen expectations (adult actors or mainstream). I do find it offensive.
There is no cosmetic better than no smoking, no sun damage and no booze. Everything else is unpicking the damage.

And obviously from my username I favour a good strong lipstick. It works wonders.

@WeCanOnlyDoOurBest i agree about the horrible harpies. I put up a post last week (NC) as it was sensitive and upsetting. Jesus, I had five women calling me a liar. They had taken no notice of my updates or other posters points of view. I decided to fight back and went right to the wire. One poster is a known basher. I've never seen a kind or supportive post from her. My heart sinks as to why these people want to upset other women.

No it’s not a joke, I agree with that post. My era was the 70’s and hairstyles were definitely varied, 99% of us were also slim, including me… I still am. We didn’t eat fast food, there wasn’t any, our meals were healthy and cooked from scratch, and we had a childhood that didn’t force us to grow up too soon by our mothers impressing on us to have manicures and facials at the age of 7 for a birthday present (my friends GD just received a voucher from her mother for beauty treatments… absolutely ridiculous).

It’s awful isn’t it. It kind of takes me back to school days, you know, when there was always the spiteful bully who would have her entourage in tow, because they were either terrified of her so pretended to like her, or they too simply enjoyed putting terror into others so would join in the bullying. They don’t change, they become adult bullies who use sites like this to continue their vile behaviour. It’s so sad when the majority of us are here to offer support or ask for help and advice.

Oh bless you, I just love your response to the man saying you looked like a street walker 😂 bravo! 👏🏻 👏🏻👏🏻 well done you, a magnificent verbal kick in the bo**ocks 😆
Wear that red lipstick with pride, go girl 💄 💋 😘

Nope. Not in another country. But I have lived abroad and it is not a criticism, it is a pretty clear observation. Followed by a genuine, why? I agree it's not everywhere, but there are areas it seems more so.

Such a good point. It really is.

Ah, come on - the 70s was the decade of shit food!

Arctic roll, Pot Noodle, spam, smash, angel delight ...

Butterscotch angel delight, lovely. The rest yuck but I thought Spam was around in WW2?

Hairstyles are varied now too believe it or not! Different eyebrows are in fashion depending on your general style, clothes are all different.

No, I know what you're trying to say but it's really not so!

This has infiltrated its way into all demographics.

Hair extensions. I've seen them look beautiful but after a while you see the joining of hair at the back on many people.

I don't disagree with hair extensions though as there is no injecting of things into the body.

I also wouldn't have a breast job. I do like the size of mine and they look OK for my age. They aren't perfect though.

Aah yes, but there was also back forest gateau, proper prawn cocktail and steak Diane. Not to mention findus crispy pancakes !!

Everyone has the right to choose what they do with their own bodies and what makes one person happy will be different to another.

What I cannot understand though is how young people find the money for such cosmetic treatments and how they will continue to find the money to carry on with them long term if they have mortgages / rent/ children etc.

Will it lead to another surge of mental health challenges when people cannot achieve the look that they believe they need to have to make them happy.

Omg yes, I’d forgotten the Arctic roll 😂 we didn’t eat spam in our house, but I remember my auntie Audrey did, she fried it along with the mash and veg left over from Sunday for Monday’s dinner. Do you remember the Vesta curry meals too?
Yep, your right, around 1974, it was the start of ‘fast food’ 🙄

Loved butterscotch Angel delight 😋 but I do think it was late 70’s early 80’s. My mum always made a trifle for Sunday tea. Yes, spam had been around for years, my parents never bought it though. Great memories 🥰