Elon Musk and Racism

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Inspired by the other long running thread. I keep reading that he tweets and retweets racist comments. Can anyone link any or all of them please? I see tweets over illegal immigration, as opposed to immigration, but not racist?

So instead of opinions please can people post the actual words used or retweeted? Or anything he said in interviews, word for word?

Thanks!

i suspect the important thing to the majority of people is that organised torture abuse and rape of young vulnerable girls stops and that involves investigating the situation from every angle without fear. I assume this is what is importantly to you.

There is no reason why the existing recommendations cannot be implemented at the same time as another wider inquiry unless you know otherwise.

Because the recommendations need to be part of any report. Or do we then have another report?

'I suspect the important thing to the majority of people is that organised torture abuse and rape of young vulnerable girls stops and that involves investigating the situation from every angle without fear. I assume this is what is importantly to you.'

Again, begs the question why Musk chose to involve himself with a UK matter rather than call for further investigation into Epstein's cabal. Why is it that Musk feels the need to focus on somewhere he has no jurisdiction rather than the US where he has the ear of the president elect and could himself make some material difference?

Or, is it because he has zero interest in protecting women and girls and just wants to harass Keir Starmer, who he weirdly seems to have a vendetta against.

We already have recommendation relating to the way certain agencies responded to the situation - do you have a reason why these cannot be implemented at the same time as the requested Oldham investigation is being carried out at a national level?

Why is Musks motivations important? Are you suggesting that an onvestigation requested by local councillors should not be carried out on a national basis to prevent the bias the councillors fear from involving certain local individuals purely on the basis you don’t approve of a person who has raised the profile of this request and the terrible ongoing plight of young girls? Why are the motivations of musk important?

'Why are the motivations of musk important?'

Because he doesn't care about violence against women and girls. If he did, he'd be actually doing something tangible in a jurisdiction where he has a position which would enable him to call, say, for a further investigation into Epstein's cabal. So his motivation isn't to highlight violence against women and girls. So what is his motivation? We should be concerned, if not worried, about that.

I have never suggested a further enquiry shouldn't happen. Although I do think such enquiries are often useless and change nothing. The Jay enquiry recommendations should be implemented ASAP, which the government are doing, unlike their predecessors (which begs the question why Musk isn't berating Johnson/Truss/Sunak for delays and incompetence.....)

But you’re not saying why those things are important. All you’re saying is you have a question why musk hasn’t commented on other abuses. Totally irrelevant. He has shone a light on the child rape gangs in certain UK cities and towns. That surely is a good thing?

So you support a further enquiry (no reason current not to implement current recommendations asap at the sane time).

it’s irrelevant what musk has and hasn’t said about anyone else.

Because when motivations come from self-interest and furthering one’s racist agenda then it leads to lies and misinformation that inflame the masses. Which you would know if you watched the BBC report debunking Musk’s lies.

I think a fair number of people are rightfully suspecting Musk of trying to destabilize the government, as part of his alignment with right wing forces. With his ownership of one of the biggest social media sites in the world, with no effective oversight, he has an outsize influence on matters. A private citizen, not of this country or it's laws, is throwing his weight around and because of his media reach, it has grave potential.

He also has a troubling lack of self restraint or sense of responsibility, given his influence. I would be reluctant to give him the mike on any issue, because of where it could lead.

'He has shone a light on the child rape gangs in certain UK cities and towns. That surely is a good thing?'

You keep saying he's shone a light on the issue as if was a well kept secret. Musk isn't shining a light on anything. He's shit stirring. His lack of commentary on abuses in his own backyard isn't irrelevant. It highlights the fact that he's not muscling in on UK examples in an altruistic way, but because he wants to destabilise the government, and ramp up racist rhetoric. If he was at all interested in preventing violence against women and girls he'd start by investigating his own social media platform. He has actually reduced the controls on the platform making it even more of a cesspit than it was before he got his greedy paws all over it.

@Reetpetitenot

"You keep saying he's shone a light on the issue as if was a well kept secret. Musk isn't shining a light on anything"

Absolutely the issue has been well known about for many years but nothing has been done about the urgent recommendations of the Jay inquiry for 2.5 years (2 of which were under the Tories).

So in December 2024 the Government published the Children's Wellbeing and Schools Bill which didn't include any of the Jay inquiry recommendations.

However since Musk has persistently been posting about this issue it has gone up the political agenda and only two days ago Yvette Cooper said she would include some of the recommendations into this Bill.

So in December nothing was being done about the Jay recommendations but thanks to Musk's posts in January they are.

So you’re saying that he is lying about there being child rape gangs in Britain?

You still haven’t answered if you watched the video.

Again, it doesn’t matter what someone’s motives are.

if I had a heart attack, I man rushed up to me and gave me cpr which saved my life would it matter whether is motives were to prove what a hero he was or to make sure I saw my son grow up. I certainly wouldn’t care as I recovered in hospital that he was bragging about it on Facebook!

You keep banging away with this claim. No-one is denying the abuse, rape gangs, violence against women and girls. We're appalled by it. What is being questioned is Musk's motivation. He is not taking up the cudgel because he's a good guy who wants to protect women and girls from violence sexual abuse. If he was, he'd start with his own social media company. He's out to cause trouble and destabilisation. He wants Reform as UK governing party and Farage as PM.

1dayatatime, Labour had already said they'd strengthen the penalties for non reporting of abuse, which the Tories had watered down from Prof Jay's report. They were starting to implement the recommendations, having been in government for 6 months, after the Tories failed.

So if Musk's motives are destabilisation, riots, to get Farage in No 10 and when he achieved this to walk away, no longer at all bothered about violence against women and girls, that would be OK, because he's 'shone a light'. Okeydoke.

But he doesn’t feel the need to shine a light on the epidemic of child rape gangs facilitated by big tech companies in his back yard?

Actually, a more accurate analogy would be if you were having a heart attack and the man rushed up and started berating the state of the NHS and suggesting the UK should move towards private health insurance. And left you lying on the pavement.

Why is that do you think?

And the question I keep asking why does it matter to you what his motivations are iif it shines an international light on matters. Surely that is a good thing.

No one can answer why his motivations matter, all I get is well he didn’t comment on this or that..At the very most you could argue that it might have some indication (although no where near conclusive) as to what his motivations might be. No one is saying WHY it matters.

No it’s not. If you want to use your analogy we could have the passerby phoning an ambulance and attempting cpr then berating them commenting how the UK health service is a mess when the ambulance took forever to turn up.

Why is that relevant?

Because it’s hypercritical and racism is very much a motivation. He’s the richest man in the world, has he done anything to stop the biggest threat to children across the world, has he even mentioned the horrific impacts and crimes the big tech companies are causing let shone a light on it?

No

Funny that considering his supposed interest in crimes against children 🤔

If you believe that Musk is involved in this because he cares about women, then there's no point in continuing the conversation. He's using it as an excuse to create havoc here. He could have raised the issue in India, Afghanistan, South America. In his own country. But no, he chooses the UK, where he's already given Reform a huge bung, and is promoting Farage. If you don't think that's the root cause of his involvement, fine.

It’s hugely relevant. He has no interest in crimes against children just crimes that he can use to whip up an anti Muslim witch hunt. It’s beyond deplorable.