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Doesn’t ever work out with the OW

542 replies

Wishiwasjapanese · 03/01/2025 15:52

Just that really. When your husbands have cheated and left you for the OW has it ever worked out?

OP posts:
Tink3rbell30 · 03/01/2025 23:28

changecandles · 03/01/2025 23:25

@Tink3rbell30

Nope, who on earth thinks the poor people being cheated on deserve it.
Then don't use words you don't understand.

You don't know what karma is. You keep using it incorrectly

I will continue with my opinions, you don't have to agree.

Sacredhandbag · 03/01/2025 23:29

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 03/01/2025 22:29

I think Camilla was relationship 1 really

She absolutely was and the entire saga was a complete shitshow and very cruel to all three of them.

I sincerely hope that family has finally learned it's lesson.

OOOtil2025 · 03/01/2025 23:59

PyongyangKipperbang · 03/01/2025 22:11

I have known some of these too, and I think its almost seen as a part of the lifestyle. Big house, wife, kids, great hols, fantastic lifestyle, bit on the side.....

I suspect that in certain circles not having a side piece is as shocking as having an affair is to most most people.

It’s almost like a badge that they’re trying get ‘champion shagger’. One guy had settled down with his ex secretary and had kids (don’t think he knew what hit him - when he was drunk he said they been dating weeks and she was pregnant). He spends his time working his way around the office. I feel for his DP, but I wonder if she knows. His lifestyle is exactly as described - but he’s been seen around town with various women is compromising positions.

I don’t think he’s been faithful in their 19 years together. 🤷🏻‍♀️ Rife in these professional industries!

ChicLilacSeal · 04/01/2025 00:53

SpringIscomingalso · 03/01/2025 20:24

as much as I don't want to take that opinion, I agree that if the affair started because they really fell for each other and their first marriage did not start like that, then yes, you can see how logically they will stay together

this is why I was very careful to marry only a man whom I fell in love with and he displayed some sort of that to me.

Men are romantic fools , despite we think it is the oppposite.

But don't most people think they're in love when they marry?

Lalalol · 04/01/2025 01:14

Tink3rbell30 · 03/01/2025 23:00

Nope, who on earth thinks the poor people being cheated on deserve it.

Please be quiet. You’re not learning anything from any responses and are just proving again and again you’re not that bright/thoughtful

ByHardyAquaFox · 04/01/2025 01:22

It works out more often that not. Men are quite good at risk assessment when it comes to OW.

Alicehatter · 04/01/2025 01:25

Beanzmeanz · 03/01/2025 18:51

I have 2 friends whose husbands left them and appear to be happy quite a few years on with the OW.
i do think though that being a part time parent helps. Suddenly in most cases you start getting free weekends abd time to yourself and can go out and do adult things while the kids are with the other parent.
Of course it’s all shiny and new and everyone is making an effort for quite a while.
Unfortunately the kids always seem to be collateral damage as far as the Dads are concerned

This.
I actually WISH my exH was still with the OW (lasted a poxy 5 years- nothing to our 20-odd), because I might feel less bitter about how he's dumped his kids and all the pieces I've had to pick up by him leaving for her.

Tradersinsnow · 04/01/2025 02:00

We've been together 33 years here. We met, we had feelings but I told him nothing could happen unless he left his partner of 5 years. He was desperately unhappy with her.

He did leave her but she thought he was taking a break, housesitting for a friend and working on his latest book. I am still appalled at how this played out (and bitter that I got blamed and lost friends over it while he didn't).

She actually rang the night before our wedding to ask him to come back to her.

justjuggling · 04/01/2025 02:32

My ex H is still with the other woman 12 years later. They have a child and are now married.

TammyJones · 04/01/2025 05:38

MsCactus · 03/01/2025 19:35

I just googled whether affair relationships last after reading this thread - out of curiosity...

The research suggests they are far less likely to last than relationships that start when both parties are single - apparently only around 3% of affair relationships last long term.

It's interesting everyone on this thread seems to think otherwise. I've never been cheated on as far as I know, but all the friends/family I've known who have been cheated on, the AP relationship has never worked out.

Years ago I read similar.
And in real life I've only seen this once.

yipyipyop · 04/01/2025 05:41

Once a cheat always a cheat

Alondra · 04/01/2025 06:14

Most affairs never come to light before one of the partners files for divorce. The only 2 couples I know quite well that began the relationship while married to someone else, have very solid marriages to their OW/OP - they've been married for 20+ years.

OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 04/01/2025 06:22

Alondra · 04/01/2025 06:14

Most affairs never come to light before one of the partners files for divorce. The only 2 couples I know quite well that began the relationship while married to someone else, have very solid marriages to their OW/OP - they've been married for 20+ years.

I agree with this. It’s not always known.

Boomer55 · 04/01/2025 06:27

I know a lot of long term marriages that started from affairs. Often, people marry the “wrong” person to start with, and then find the “right” one.

No one ever got dragged out of a happy marriage. 🤷‍♀️

Gloriia · 04/01/2025 07:55

justjuggling · 04/01/2025 02:32

My ex H is still with the other woman 12 years later. They have a child and are now married.

Edited

I don't think anyone disputes that cheats might stay with their flings, the question imo is do they stay faithful and I bet in a lot/most cases the answer is no. Once they've experienced the thrill of a novelty shag it can be addictive.

Many do stay though because once they've gone through the expense and upheaval of divorce they are reluctant to repeat it and they have also learnt that the grass is not always greener.

user764903178 · 04/01/2025 08:12

yipyipyop · 04/01/2025 05:41

Once a cheat always a cheat

That is obviously true.

However, some cheats cheat once and never again.

OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 04/01/2025 08:22

Gloriia · 04/01/2025 07:55

I don't think anyone disputes that cheats might stay with their flings, the question imo is do they stay faithful and I bet in a lot/most cases the answer is no. Once they've experienced the thrill of a novelty shag it can be addictive.

Many do stay though because once they've gone through the expense and upheaval of divorce they are reluctant to repeat it and they have also learnt that the grass is not always greener.

And some stay because they are happier.

Gloriia · 04/01/2025 08:25

OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 04/01/2025 08:22

And some stay because they are happier.

Yes until they inevitably get bored and someone catches their eye.
They've just learnt from their previous mistakes and are better at not getting caught.

OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 04/01/2025 08:26

Gloriia · 04/01/2025 08:25

Yes until they inevitably get bored and someone catches their eye.
They've just learnt from their previous mistakes and are better at not getting caught.

Nope. Not always. Despite you being desperate to think so.

HagathaChristi · 04/01/2025 08:38

With regards to the Karma question: you could say that it is good Karma for the person who is cheated on because a cheating lying bastard is removed from their life leaving them in peace.

I admit to knowing absolutely nothing about the real philosophy of Karma.

TammyJones · 04/01/2025 08:44

MumblesParty · 03/01/2025 20:08

My Dad left my Mum (wife 1) for OW in his early 30s.
He married OW then left her (wife 2) 10 years later, for another OW.
He was with her for a while then met another OW. He married that one, then left her (wife 3) about 10 years later for another OW. He was with that OW for a few months, then left her for another OW, who he married (wife 4). He’s been happy with wife 4 for about 20 years, in his late 80s now and very frail, so there’ll be no more philandering!

Wow
Do you know why?
I read this half a dozen times and still can't work out the time scale... surely this make him late 70's...
I hope he's got his 'memoirs' hidden somewhere...

Mummer123 · 04/01/2025 08:54

I was technically the other woman. Although nothing ever happened until they had split. Husband refused to marry ex, was a general big grump and very selfish. We’re married with kids and I struggle to imagine him as anything but wonderful (has his faults don’t get me wrong, but nothing major)

Mummer123 · 04/01/2025 08:56

yipyipyop · 04/01/2025 05:41

Once a cheat always a cheat

this actually isn’t true. I cheated on my ex, I had accepted that was the type of person I was tbh. It makes me sick to even imagine cheating on my husband. I think there are 3 categories of people. People who would never ever cheat (my mum being one of them), people who’ll cheat no matter what and (and I think most fall into this one) people who will cheat if they aren’t with the right person

Ilovemyshed · 04/01/2025 09:11

My best friend had an affair. She and her partner had been together for 15 years then got married. In reality she was pretty unhappy and instead of splitting, they got married. They both knew they weren't right together. No kids.

A year later she had a coup de foudre with someone else who was also married. They started an affair but she never told her by then husband. OM never told his wife but left one day and moved back to family. He had been deeply unhappy and his wife had become violent and there was an incident (long back story). Also no kids.

My BF split from her then husband and moved out into her own place. 6 months later her OM moved in.

25 years on, they are married and completely happy and still friends with ex-H. The ex-W has moved on too. Their original relationships were just wrong and their own relationship is just right. It's very very obvious.

She isn't delighted about the story but life can be messy and they came through it to the other side and a much happier, supportive and loving relationship.

Neither of them would ever cheat, they have no need to find anyone else as they are the complete package.

TammyJones · 04/01/2025 09:21

CulturalNomad · 03/01/2025 21:27

All this 'once a cheater, always a cheater' and when a mistress marries, she creates a vacancy nonsense is exactly that. Nonsense

I think these are just well-meaning platitudes we automatically say to try to comfort someone who is heartbroken over being cheated on/left for another woman.

When I was younger I would say "he cheated on you and he'll cheat on her" or "they'll never be happy together" or some variation thereof. Based on nothing of course, because how would I know how things will turn out?

But now I just lend a sympathetic ear and encourage the person to not get stuck for years nursing some elaborate revenge fantasy. Best to focus on your own happiness and well-being, "living well is the best revenge" and all that. Besides, even if the relationship with the OW eventually falls apart - potentially years down the road - your situation won't change; you won't magically become happy again.

I like that message - so true
About 30 odd years ago my ex had a very short exit affair.
I was sad , as I was lonely and he looked like he was living the life ...
Even when I met and married someone who made me a 100 times happier
Eventually I dropped the bitterness, and it was then I realised I was actually choosing to be happy or not.