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Should she replace it? Part 3

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Langarg · 02/01/2025 19:09

I can’t believe we have a part 3 🤣 this has provided some lighthearted entertainment at a time where I’m feeling really let down by someone I considered a good friend. So thank you! I have posted an update on thread 2, will post it here also.

I have sent the following text message ‘Having reflected on what you have said, how the airwrap was lost/broken or otherwise is irrelevant. I considered asking you for pictures of the broken airwrap or asking to speak to your sister to ask her what happened but it will get us nowhere. All that matters is I am down a Dyson airwrap and I want a new replacement. You’ll need to either transfer me the £399 tonight to pay for this or purchase it yourself from boots and send me the email receipt this evening. You can then sort out with your sister whether she is going to contribute to the cost of it. We can then put this behind us’

I have no interest in maintaining the friendship after this for obvious reasons. I am worried that she’s seen the thread (how can she not have 🤣) and knows this fine well so will have no intention of replacing it sadly.

I don’t think I’ll ever get the truth (was there even a wedding at this rate?! 🤣) all that matters to me now is getting a replacement airwrap!!!!

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flipent · 03/01/2025 11:12

OP is getting some really useful advice - and some not so useful!

A letter before action costs nothing - but is the first stop if OP decides to go to take the small claims route.
OP does not need to send any other communication threatening anything. LBA covers that. It does not remove any options, but is a first step to further action if OP chooses that route.

Absolutely do not go to CF's house. That will not help and will potentially make it worse for OP.

thescandalwascontained · 03/01/2025 11:12

Langarg · 03/01/2025 09:10

Thank you for this! She still didn’t reply to my message. I have sent a further text message this morning telling her that the deal from Boots ends today and asked that she please either transfer me the £399 or order it and forward the confirmation email. I’ll await her response but I have a funny feeling I’m being ghosted!

Tell her when the sale ends, they're £500 again and you would really prefer to not have to go via small claims court. Her silence is only making you question your friendship from the start.

SerendipityJane · 03/01/2025 11:14

Ophy83 · 03/01/2025 11:04

Don't issue a small claim just yet. It isn't free to do and should be a last resort. I'd potentially consider messaging her husband or sister if she doesn't reply.

Is this the 1950s ?

EdwardNigma · 03/01/2025 11:15

There's a gigantic, unmentioned lever here:
That's some lovely anonymity CF is hiding behind. It'd be a crying shame if something were to happen to that anonymity, things could become pretty unpleasant for her given the global wave of revulsion her shitty behaviour has caused.

Give these scum no quarter, drive a bulldozer over them.

Mrsbloggz · 03/01/2025 11:16

Ilovecakey · 03/01/2025 00:53

How would they know who it was or prove it? Just like the op can't prove or know for sure what happened to her airwrap. Payback is a bitch

Well she has a 'paper trail' of messages where the op is accusing her of stealing something, it'll be quite easy for her to make a case that it was OP who damaged the car.
Or even worse this might spark a campaign of revenge attacks.
This slippery light fingered woman it's not going to do the honorable thing and pay for the item, she has no honor. She won't be shamed into paying for it because she has no shame.
I'd say this woman is a practiced con artist, she knows exactly how to pick her victims and exactly what she can get away with.

SerendipityJane · 03/01/2025 11:17

The fact the OP has documentary evidence they provided a cheaper solution (£399) for the CF to mitigate the full £500 is also a very powerful fact for a court action. It shows the OP really has gone the extra mile to avoid the last resort.

Pedallleur · 03/01/2025 11:17

Ophy83 · 03/01/2025 11:04

Don't issue a small claim just yet. It isn't free to do and should be a last resort. I'd potentially consider messaging her husband or sister if she doesn't reply.

They will be of no help. Will claim they know nothing/side with CF. If OP goes to the house they may not answer the door or it becomes some kind of s doorstep shouting match. Either way friendship is now done. OP, get yourself another at the reduced price and if the matter does get resolved you can sell it on.

DoggingDave · 03/01/2025 11:22

Langarg · 03/01/2025 09:10

Thank you for this! She still didn’t reply to my message. I have sent a further text message this morning telling her that the deal from Boots ends today and asked that she please either transfer me the £399 or order it and forward the confirmation email. I’ll await her response but I have a funny feeling I’m being ghosted!

Ghosted She'll probably claim she left her phone at the hotel and her sister stole it and broke it!

Memyselfmilly · 03/01/2025 11:24

DoggingDave · 03/01/2025 11:22

Ghosted She'll probably claim she left her phone at the hotel and her sister stole it and broke it!

I heard the phone is blue and matches the carpet

JammySlag · 03/01/2025 11:27

Pedallleur · 03/01/2025 11:17

They will be of no help. Will claim they know nothing/side with CF. If OP goes to the house they may not answer the door or it becomes some kind of s doorstep shouting match. Either way friendship is now done. OP, get yourself another at the reduced price and if the matter does get resolved you can sell it on.

What are you talking about. This is exactly what small claims court is for.

Pedallleur · 03/01/2025 11:32

It is. But until the issue is resolved the OP is without her item.

Dinomum79 · 03/01/2025 11:35

JammySlag · 03/01/2025 08:41

Or rather than “chalk up to experience” just make a police report and make an application to small claims court to have her wages garnished for the cost. She has actually covered herself in glory, she has patiently waited, listened to the cheeky fucker’s lies, and persistently tried to politely but firmly ask for her expensive device back.

OP would be well within her rights to be very angry and publicly expose her in their friend group to try and get her expensive belongings back. Detailing her experience on MN, which is anonymous is not going to out the cheeky fucker unless she details her cheeky fuckery publicly which I doubt she’s broadcasted.

I agree it isn’t fair and she shouldn’t get away with it but the above will take ages and OP will be without her airwrap and is not guaranteed a positive outcome for all the stress.

Mrsbloggz · 03/01/2025 11:35

EdwardNigma · 03/01/2025 11:15

There's a gigantic, unmentioned lever here:
That's some lovely anonymity CF is hiding behind. It'd be a crying shame if something were to happen to that anonymity, things could become pretty unpleasant for her given the global wave of revulsion her shitty behaviour has caused.

Give these scum no quarter, drive a bulldozer over them.

This dishonest woman with no shame at all, how do you think she's going to respond to being publicly humiliated?
Will she hold up her hands and say it's a fair cop, I'm banged to rights and I'm going to pay up?
Or will she immediately start spinning and spreading lies, light fingered Laura ends up looking like the victim and the op the bad guy?

I'm not saying she doesn't deserve it, if she'd done that to me I'd be in a murderous rage. Hopefully I would restrain myself and not act on my feelings.

bigkahunaburger · 03/01/2025 11:37

Pedallleur · 03/01/2025 11:32

It is. But until the issue is resolved the OP is without her item.

I fannied about for months trying to get £5000 owed to me - lots of excuses and back and forths - it was hugely stressful. I emailed and posted a very detailed letter before action, outlining my case with all my evidence attached, and it was transferred to me within 20 mins!

It can be that quick.

If OP wants to she may have this sorted by the end of the day.

HoppingPavlova · 03/01/2025 11:38

I don’t think you will see a cent, sadly. I would go to small claims in the sheer principle of it combined with the fact she is one of the largest cheeky fuckers on the planet. You have evidence of her admitting to Lodi g it, that’s enough. Sadly, you likely won’t get the full amount (due to ‘wear and tear’ before lending it, but hopefully you will at least get the sale amount. I know that’s still not great and unfairly leaves you out of pocket but better than nothing. Plus it forces cheeky fucker to pay something in one go vs paying you over a decade or trying to give you a shit second hand one.

Sorry - posted on the original thread initially as it’s still open.

BlueMoanday · 03/01/2025 11:39

AngelicKaty · 03/01/2025 09:59

As I advised OP in thread 1 or 2 (can't remember which) if CF finally decides to do the decent thing and buy a replacement for her, OP should ask her to get a gift receipt with it which transfers full consumer rights from the purchaser to the gift recipient 😊

If the actual receipt is provided the buyer can write "ownership transfered to..." on the receipt and sign and date it and hten the receipt should be valid for returns. Still a faff though.

Joelle84 · 03/01/2025 11:39

Would this result in a CCJ that CF would have to declare when completing forms or that something else?

AngelicKaty · 03/01/2025 11:39

Itsgottobeme · 03/01/2025 08:03

I assume this woman was a friend. So couldn't be something totally evil. Even down to you lending hair product for her big day.
Sounds like she hasn't got money. She couldn't afford a hairdresser. And had a very very paired down wedding with just two witnesses.
She even said she can't afford it.
She broke something.shitty shitty. But shit happens. Should she have come forward. Yes yes yes.
But she was (as someone with no money to repay) probably beyond ashamed and embarrassed to admit she'd done it but then could never repay. Money brigs shame. Brings spiralling. I can see how this woman's thinking quickly went to pot.
She hasn't seemed malicious in any of this. Not compared to both the (rightly yes) angry op and replys.
But we all now know she a mmnsnetters. And to see 3 threads keeping shit and hating on you feels really off. One thread was the ops right of course. But then starting another and another with some repays being really really gross. Feels off.
And I can't imagine coming online and reading 10000s of messages all hating on me.

If you couldn't "imagine coming online and reading 10000s of messages all hating on" you, that's because you wouldn't do what CF has. And to say CF "could never repay" is nonsense. Of course she can, but she hasn't even explored options for paying via installments and/or interest-free credit. She's simply said she'd have to put it on her credit card but that would put her in debt so she doesn't want to (her thinking hadn't gone "to pot" when it's applied to her interests). Stop making excuses for the CF.

SanctusInDistress · 03/01/2025 11:39

without proper proof that she lent it, there’s not much she can do about it.

unfortunately, the OP will need to buy herself a new one, and accept the friendship is over, and lesson learnt that when you lend stuff, there is a chance you may not get it back, and that’s all there is to it.

Needanewname42 · 03/01/2025 11:41

thescandalwascontained · 03/01/2025 11:12

Tell her when the sale ends, they're £500 again and you would really prefer to not have to go via small claims court. Her silence is only making you question your friendship from the start.

I think the sale has ended i can't find it less than £475

Joelle84 · 03/01/2025 11:42

SanctusInDistress · 03/01/2025 11:39

without proper proof that she lent it, there’s not much she can do about it.

unfortunately, the OP will need to buy herself a new one, and accept the friendship is over, and lesson learnt that when you lend stuff, there is a chance you may not get it back, and that’s all there is to it.

Edited

She does have proof, theyve discussed it via text so its in writing

Needanewname42 · 03/01/2025 11:45

AngelicKaty · 03/01/2025 11:39

If you couldn't "imagine coming online and reading 10000s of messages all hating on" you, that's because you wouldn't do what CF has. And to say CF "could never repay" is nonsense. Of course she can, but she hasn't even explored options for paying via installments and/or interest-free credit. She's simply said she'd have to put it on her credit card but that would put her in debt so she doesn't want to (her thinking hadn't gone "to pot" when it's applied to her interests). Stop making excuses for the CF.

If someone doesn't have the money they don't have it.
We are talking about someone who didn't have the money for a hairdresser for her own wedding.
£500 in installments could be years getting repayed.

Why isn't anyone claiming the insurance

Hesonlyakidharry · 03/01/2025 11:46

@Langarg
You should order one today for yourself while the offer is still on, just in case. Then, if she doesn’t order it or send the money, at least you haven’t had to spend quite as much as you would have to get a replacement.
If she orders one, you return yours or if she send the money then it’s all sorted.

BIossomtoes · 03/01/2025 11:46

Needanewname42 · 03/01/2025 11:45

If someone doesn't have the money they don't have it.
We are talking about someone who didn't have the money for a hairdresser for her own wedding.
£500 in installments could be years getting repayed.

Why isn't anyone claiming the insurance

She’s got a credit card, she’s told OP that. She needs to use it. I doubt she’ll even have insurance that would cover it.

Baggyprincess · 03/01/2025 11:47

Does she have a landline? It would be great if you could ‘accidentally’ speak to her husband about it and find out how aware of the situation he is. I would order the air wrap whilst it’s still on order. I also think time for excuses and friendship is done, time to file a claim in the small claims court.

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