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To complain about a GP calling me this?

367 replies

lolit · 31/12/2024 21:37

He called me a good girl while examining me. Should I complain or am I overreacting?

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RainbowSquare · 31/12/2024 23:37

You seem to think the GP will GAF. He's likely a partner i.e. owner. The practice manager will just write a response, tell him about it, he'll laugh, she'll laugh and if you're lucky it'll get stuck on a record that CQC will have a laugh at if they bother to even open the complaints log.

Bellyblueboy · 31/12/2024 23:38

Gorgeousfeet · 31/12/2024 23:35

Bad but outing. .

I am so sorry. Your GP should not be calling you offensive names. They should treating you with professionalism and dignity.

I hope you have changed practices at least, if you didn’t complain.

I work with a lot of peoples on very challenging circumstances - I have never addressed a colleague or client in any way which could cause offence. There is simply no excuse.

StrikeForever · 31/12/2024 23:39

CurlewKate · 31/12/2024 23:24

Don't complain. Do email the practice manager saying that calling adult women "good girl" is something that should not happen in a professional setting, and please could he/she have a word with colleagues..

This 👆 A formal complaint is OTT for this. Think about the effect of the human being at the other end.

RainbowSquare · 31/12/2024 23:40

2dogsandabudgie · 31/12/2024 23:37

I thought all GPs had to have another person in the room when carrying out intimate examinations, to protect themselves as well as patients.

I had a breast examination by a female GP and she asked another female staff member to be present.

Pretty certain not, and in any case the OP obtusely isnt saying what the mysterious examination was. Could have been an ingrown toenail.

surreygirl1987 · 31/12/2024 23:40

Gorgeousfeet · 31/12/2024 23:31

Oh fucking hell.

I have been called more “ offensive “ stuff than this. 🙄

So have I. Doesn't mean this shouldn't be reported though. I'm glad the OP is going to say something.

StepAwayFromMyCoffee · 31/12/2024 23:41

The professionally offended strike again 🤦‍♀️

StrikeForever · 31/12/2024 23:44

2dogsandabudgie · 31/12/2024 23:37

I thought all GPs had to have another person in the room when carrying out intimate examinations, to protect themselves as well as patients.

I had a breast examination by a female GP and she asked another female staff member to be present.

Which is why this probably wasn’t any kind of intimate examination.

shuggles · 31/12/2024 23:46

@Catfox1 To me it reads as though the OP thought it was a sexual advance (may not be the right term but that’s how it’s coming across) in which case a complaint would be justified.

Yes, men in clubs and on dating apps always make sexual advances by starting the conversation with "good girl." It has a positive effect every time.

Redmat · 31/12/2024 23:48

I'd have taken it as a reassuring, kind remark, especially if the examination was an uncomfortable one.
I don't spend my life looking to be offended. What a waste of your doctors surgery's time.

shuggles · 31/12/2024 23:48

@Bellyblueboy I had a doctor outright call me "fat." Judging by the responses in this thread, some people would have collapsed on the floor if they heard that. But I have had a different upbringing, so my thought was "well yes, I am indeed fat, so what he's saying is correct."

SilenceInside · 31/12/2024 23:49

The type of examination doesn't change the fact that the comment was at a minimum patronising/condescending and sexist. The exact context may make the comment worse, but there's no obligation on the Op to be specific about the exact type of examination.

Oioisavaloy27 · 31/12/2024 23:50

Catfox1 · 31/12/2024 23:28

The OP doesn’t seem to suggest they are making the complaint because they thought it was patronising or misogynistic. To
me it reads as though the OP thought it was a sexual advance (may not be the right term but that’s how it’s coming across) in which case a complaint would be justified.

She is suggesting it was said in a sexual way whilst being examined in a vulnerable position but won't say what. Not sure why the op even asked the question it is quite telling that the op was always going to complain.
I think people are getting fed up with people complaining about absolutely everything and getting offended by everything. At the end of the day Gp's are human too.

Totallymessed · 31/12/2024 23:50

shuggles · 31/12/2024 23:12

I think it's highly likely that he would refer to a young man as a "lad," yes.

Men are referred to as "boys" all the time. I've worked with women in differing contexts who referred to male colleagues as either "boys" or "lads." On TV, I hear various football managers refer to their players as "the boys."

I'm not sure why any of it is offensive.

Really? You think a doctor doing a prostate examination or other intimate examination would call the man a good lad? I mean: doctor has his latex gloves on and his finger up the man's arse.... and calls him a good boy?

It's a completely different scenario to a football manager discussing the players. Obviously.

OP it's possible it was completely innocent, in which case the doctor would want to know he behaved inappropriately and made you uncomfortable. Or it wasn't, in which case a record of his behaviour needs to be kept. Please don't feel like it's too minor to complain about.

Oioisavaloy27 · 31/12/2024 23:52

Totallymessed · 31/12/2024 23:50

Really? You think a doctor doing a prostate examination or other intimate examination would call the man a good lad? I mean: doctor has his latex gloves on and his finger up the man's arse.... and calls him a good boy?

It's a completely different scenario to a football manager discussing the players. Obviously.

OP it's possible it was completely innocent, in which case the doctor would want to know he behaved inappropriately and made you uncomfortable. Or it wasn't, in which case a record of his behaviour needs to be kept. Please don't feel like it's too minor to complain about.

That is why it is important for the op to say where she was being examined but op is deliberately evading the question.

Thoughtsonallsorts · 31/12/2024 23:53

lolit · 31/12/2024 21:37

He called me a good girl while examining me. Should I complain or am I overreacting?

Please stop this absolte rubbish.
An older Doctor empathising with you & you've taking this as an insult. He sounds like a lovely GP

TriesNotToBeCynical · 31/12/2024 23:53

RainbowSquare · 31/12/2024 22:15

I mean, you've every right to complain but just expect a pithy response from the practice manager. I complained regarding a very traumatic 24 period when an elderly relative slowly passed away at home and the response from the GP to administer final meds (morphine) was shambolic at best and got the most half hearted fk you letter.

Get a sense of perspective. And as for it being a sexual tone, thats likely how you chose to interpret it. There's every chance he would say good lad to guy under 40 but that doesnt annoy the feminists.

Practice managers may deal with complaints but it is the GP partners (or a higher health authority body in some cases) that is actually responsible for the content of the response. And professionally responsibly for any inadequacies or misconduct discovered. The practice manager is rarely a partner and usually an employed office manager basically. If not happy with the response the complaint can be taken to a higher level or to the General Medical Council. Edit: or both.

pimplebum · 31/12/2024 23:55

I am a mum to small kids and spend my life saying good girl / boy ! Occasionally it slips out of my mouth at work when talking to secondary age kids as a habit , I’ve only had to apologise once and thankfully the teen in question accepted my explanation that I have small kids and had said it a thousand times over the weekend with potty training and was quiet tired , so it just slipped out

could the doctor have small kids and be tired ?
personally I feel complaints should be saved for transgressions that are worth spoiling someone’s day over

shuggles · 31/12/2024 23:55

@Totallymessed Really? You think a doctor doing a prostate examination or other intimate examination would call the man a good lad? I mean: doctor has his latex gloves on and his finger up the man's arse.... and calls him a good boy?

That's not how I'm reading OP's post. From what OP is saying, it sounds as if she has taken offence to the use of the word "girl" in and of itself, rather than the use of "girl" with specific timing in relation to a particular type of examination.

I dislike being called "lad" because I have a dislike for "lad culture," but I would not care if a doctor called me "good lad" (because there are more important things being discussed) and I would not submit a complaint because I have more serious battles to fight.

Catfox1 · 31/12/2024 23:56

shuggles · 31/12/2024 23:46

@Catfox1 To me it reads as though the OP thought it was a sexual advance (may not be the right term but that’s how it’s coming across) in which case a complaint would be justified.

Yes, men in clubs and on dating apps always make sexual advances by starting the conversation with "good girl." It has a positive effect every time.

As with most things, context is important. Good girl in a creepy voice stroking a leg for example, yeah complain. OP has said she felt uncomfortable and in the absence of any detail I can only assume something similar happened.

Totallymessed · 31/12/2024 23:56

KilkennyCats · 31/12/2024 23:10

Why didn’t you say it to his face, op, instead of hiding behind an arms length complaint?
You still haven’t explained what sort of “vulnerable position” you were in that precluded this.

What a dreadful thing to say- if someone doesn't say they are uncomfortable at the time they are in the wrong and possibly lying? Hope you are nowhere near any kind of safeguarding responsibilities.

Bellyblueboy · 31/12/2024 23:56

shuggles · 31/12/2024 23:48

@Bellyblueboy I had a doctor outright call me "fat." Judging by the responses in this thread, some people would have collapsed on the floor if they heard that. But I have had a different upbringing, so my thought was "well yes, I am indeed fat, so what he's saying is correct."

Most medical professionals would use more precise terminology. But when I was obese I wouldn’t have been offended if my doctor called me fat. I would just be worried that they thought my vocabulary didn’t stretch to overweight or obese😊.

I have a brilliant GP - who I do t see very often but who is very direct and professional. He did tell me I was overweight when I was, and calculated my BMI. He didn’t say fat he said overweight and on the cusp
of obese. To me that was more frightening that slang.

TheWalkingEyebag · 01/01/2025 00:15

I am surprised at the number of people saying to get over it. Making that comment during an examination, when you were in a vulnerable position, was very inappropriate. I absolutely think it justifies a complaint, even if it’s simply to make him aware of how his words and actions can affect his patients.

Totallymessed · 01/01/2025 00:17

shuggles · 31/12/2024 23:55

@Totallymessed Really? You think a doctor doing a prostate examination or other intimate examination would call the man a good lad? I mean: doctor has his latex gloves on and his finger up the man's arse.... and calls him a good boy?

That's not how I'm reading OP's post. From what OP is saying, it sounds as if she has taken offence to the use of the word "girl" in and of itself, rather than the use of "girl" with specific timing in relation to a particular type of examination.

I dislike being called "lad" because I have a dislike for "lad culture," but I would not care if a doctor called me "good lad" (because there are more important things being discussed) and I would not submit a complaint because I have more serious battles to fight.

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I'm sure you do have more important battles to fight. But the two scenarios are completely different.

Aspargar · 01/01/2025 00:22

Surely there’d be a female chaperone if it was a male gp? I’ve always had this if it’s been a male. For their protection as much as for the patient I assume.

Was there OP?

MidnightMusing5 · 01/01/2025 00:33

Was he really old? If he was, then you are being unreasonable .

ive called people lovely by mistake just because im so used to calling my kids jt(!) can’t say anything these days without someone taking offence(!)
are you middle aged by any chance?