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To complain about a GP calling me this?

367 replies

lolit · 31/12/2024 21:37

He called me a good girl while examining me. Should I complain or am I overreacting?

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Alphabetsoups · 01/01/2025 00:34

lolit · 31/12/2024 21:37

He called me a good girl while examining me. Should I complain or am I overreacting?

Goodness me. What a thing to worry about. If that's the most serious thing you have on your mind, I hope you have the sense to count yourself very very lucky.

AdventFridgeOfShame · 01/01/2025 00:34

I think the issue here is OP found herself feeling vulnerable during the examination and there seems to have not been a chaperone.
Does this surgery not use chaperones or was the examination not deemed chaperone worthy.

To complain effectively OP needs to decide the outcome she requires, a female HCP in future or a chaperone at all appointments.

The language may well have been inappropriate but without detail we will never know.

Addictedtohotbaths · 01/01/2025 00:37

Totally gross inappropriate language, I’d feel sick.

I expect that you will get those who make light of your experience haven’t experienced being assaulted by a person in a position of power.

KilkennyCats · 01/01/2025 00:38

Addictedtohotbaths · 01/01/2025 00:37

Totally gross inappropriate language, I’d feel sick.

I expect that you will get those who make light of your experience haven’t experienced being assaulted by a person in a position of power.

Op hasn’t experienced this either.

MumblesParty · 01/01/2025 00:40

OP it doesn’t sound great, and by all means complain of you feel it upset you, but bear in mind that in the time it takes for the complaint to be read, discussed by all the partners, and responded to, about 30 patients could have been seen. One of the reasons it’s hard to get appointments these days is because of the increased time spent on bureaucratic work, leading to less time for seeing patients.

SilenceInside · 01/01/2025 00:42

Oh these posts trying to shame the Op for supposedly wasting the time of GPs! Ridiculous to suggest that patients won't get appointments because GPs are too busy dealing with complaints.

StarDolphins · 01/01/2025 00:42

It depends on your threshold. I don’t mind if I’m called a girl or a woman tbh, doesn’t bother me one bit but I do t know what your complaint would be?

Thoughtsonallsorts · 01/01/2025 00:44

Can I please have this GP

What a load of nonsense.
Please don't dare accuse a highly trained & hard working GP be misconstrued in this way for a sympathetic approach to caring.

MerrilyOnhigh · 01/01/2025 00:44

lolit · 31/12/2024 22:04

Is it harmless if it made me extremely uncomfortable as a young woman do be told that by an older man in a vulnerable moment?

Why? Did you seriously believe that he meant it in an abusive sense? If so, why?

MerrilyOnhigh · 01/01/2025 00:45

Addictedtohotbaths · 01/01/2025 00:37

Totally gross inappropriate language, I’d feel sick.

I expect that you will get those who make light of your experience haven’t experienced being assaulted by a person in a position of power.

Honestly, if you equate this to an assault, you are really minimising the seriousness of assaults.

Snowpatrolling · 01/01/2025 00:46

I’ve accidentally said this a few times to the people I care for, total accident and I was trying to be encouraging in a difficult situation!
no one’s ever complained about me for saying it tho.

MumblesParty · 01/01/2025 00:46

SilenceInside · 01/01/2025 00:42

Oh these posts trying to shame the Op for supposedly wasting the time of GPs! Ridiculous to suggest that patients won't get appointments because GPs are too busy dealing with complaints.

@SilenceInside its one of the many bureaucratic tasks that has become a lot more onerous than when I started as a GP 30 years ago. Not necessarily because there are more complaints (although there probably are) but because litigation risks and expectations have changed, and greater engagement is expected. When I started we spent all our time seeing patients. Now we have to have “admin sessions” instead of surgeries in which to keep on top of tasks such as complaints. Whether or not this takes away time for appointments is not a matter of debate. It’s a simple fact.

SilenceInside · 01/01/2025 00:50

It's also a simple fact that those "admin sessions" will be happening regardless of whether or not the OP puts in an official complaint. It's absurd to suggest that making a complaint is inappropriate because it actively removes GPs from patient appointments.

MumblesParty · 01/01/2025 00:54

SilenceInside · 01/01/2025 00:50

It's also a simple fact that those "admin sessions" will be happening regardless of whether or not the OP puts in an official complaint. It's absurd to suggest that making a complaint is inappropriate because it actively removes GPs from patient appointments.

@SilenceInside OK whatever. GP. 30 years experience. Ignore me.

Thoughtsonallsorts · 01/01/2025 00:55

To all GPs I urge you to never be afraid to speak to patients as you would to your family. If the expression good girl is something you feel don't hold back. This thread is diabolical

Footnote to patients: Stop wasting a Doctors time with woke rubbish when they are simply trying to save your life.

Growlybear83 · 01/01/2025 00:56

Good grief! Is there anything that people on Mumsnet don't find offensive?!

SilenceInside · 01/01/2025 01:00

@MumblesParty I'm not ignoring you in the slightest and you'll see that I agreed with you that these "admin sessions" will be taking place. But the OP putting in her complaint isn't going to be drawing a GP away from time that otherwise would be allocated to appointments. It's already allocated to admin. I hope as a GP you're not suggesting that patients must not make complaints because they are wasting precious GP time if they do.

Smineusername · 01/01/2025 01:05

OK this thread is bonkers and I think it's because the demographic here are not saturated in porn culture and thus completely oblivious as to how the world actually works and what middleaged male sexuality is actually like. Like there was a thread the other day from someone asking about the pressure to shave body hair and everyone responded saying they didn't shave what's the big deal. For at least the past 15 years it has been unacceptable to have body hair in hookup culture and that's a direct result of porn. This audience is detached from the reality of that. They are also very middle class and culturally biased toward the GP. The naivety is actually astounding and really really toxic and dangerous. I would put money on the fact that it was an intimate exam and this creep has a daddy fetish. I take her feelings of discomfort as strong evidence that she has actually been assaulted by someone in a position of power. And now she's being gaslit for being a snowflake. Like wtf did me too not happen? Did you not get the memo? Abusers exploit their positions of authority and deliberately hide in the gray areas so their victims won't be believed. They use plausible deniability to their advantage. Why the fuck would anyone defend what is at best unprofessional and ill advised and at worst deliberate sexual abuse? Why would you risk not reporting something that could easily be a pattern of abuse? Why should she fear speaking up about a healhcare professional who made her feel unsafe? For the love of God

FeliznaviDogs · 01/01/2025 01:06

Not yet RTFT but it could warrant feedback - depends on situation. If someone was looking at a cut on my finger or listening to chest with stethoscope I’d be less bothered by this than if they had their hand inside my fanny doing an internal. If the latter I’d also feel uncomfortable saying something at the time as I’d be feeling vulnerable and it would make me feel ten times more uncomfortable.

whilst I wouldn’t kick up a stink I would drop them an email (if the latter position) to tell them I felt it was inappropriate and did the opposite of putting me at ease.

Gorgeousfeet · 01/01/2025 01:08

surreygirl1987 · 31/12/2024 23:40

So have I. Doesn't mean this shouldn't be reported though. I'm glad the OP is going to say something.

Quite agree.

Thoughtsonallsorts · 01/01/2025 01:12

I think it says more about a patients interpretation of the expression than a Doctors intention when trying to be sympathetic. Perhaps patients who feel like this will prefer the AI approach to consultations which may not be far off.
God help them if they need an internal.

Garlicwest · 01/01/2025 01:22

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Thoughtsonallsorts · 01/01/2025 01:27

MumblesParty · 01/01/2025 00:46

@SilenceInside its one of the many bureaucratic tasks that has become a lot more onerous than when I started as a GP 30 years ago. Not necessarily because there are more complaints (although there probably are) but because litigation risks and expectations have changed, and greater engagement is expected. When I started we spent all our time seeing patients. Now we have to have “admin sessions” instead of surgeries in which to keep on top of tasks such as complaints. Whether or not this takes away time for appointments is not a matter of debate. It’s a simple fact.

I have a close relative who is a brilliant GP consistently saught after for appointments. The beurocracy now is absolutely ridiculous to the point he is considering leaving the profession. The monkeys are running the circus.

Bogginsthe3rd · 01/01/2025 01:28

lolit · 31/12/2024 23:23

Anyway, this thread was very helpful, even the comments telling me to get over myself helped me see how normalised this is, which is exactly why I need to put in a complaint. I need to do my small part in changing this because it is NOT OKAY.

I have written my complaint and will send it tomorrow. I will not be returning to this thread because I need to spend my NYE doing something positive instead of thinking about this.

Dear me. Happy new year from lolit.

oakleaffy · 01/01/2025 01:28

RainbowSquare · 31/12/2024 21:41

Don't be so ridiculous. Bradley sometimes says that on The Chase.

And lets be honest the GP Manager wouldnt give a flying F and you'd be put on a list of obnoxious patients.

Absolutely this.
People like to get offended over the slightest thing nowadays.

Putting in a complaint over something so trivial is ludicrous.

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