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To think of you're going to answer questions with "yeah.." or "no...." At a social event, then fuck offfff

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fanaticalfairy · 31/12/2024 16:06

Why bother coming out to meet people if you can't even engage in basic conversations with people who are all there to get to know each other?
We were out for a birthday brunch this morning with about 20 people, some we knew, some we didn't as it was for a mutual friend (Graham)
Me .. spying someone unfamiliar at our table..."hi, I'm Fairy, what's your name?
Him: "John "
Me: "great. How you know Graham "
John: " through a friend, Steve"
Me: "oh, yes I know Steve, he's lovely, how do you know Steve?
John" work'
Me: "So, what do you do with Steve?"
John: "Software engineer"
Me: "great what kind of thing? Im a software engineer too..."
John: "Nothing interesting....'
Me: "Oh... Ok. So ... Got any holidays booked?"
John: "No."Tumble weed

"Ok, lovely to meet you ... I'll go and see Graham is okay "

Ugh

OP posts:
wizzywig · 31/12/2024 19:53

You're expecting a bit much from a steve/ graham/ engineer

phoenixrosehere · 31/12/2024 19:53

wordler · 31/12/2024 19:44

My Mum once got asked that by a man at social event and she replied she was a housewife and he sneered and said "is that all?"

So it's a sensitive subject for some people.

Although in the OP's defence on this situation he brought up work so she was fairly secure in knowing there was a job to talk about.

Technically, he was only answering OP’s question. OP asked him a question on how he knew Steve. He answered from work.

solopanda · 31/12/2024 19:53

firef1y · 31/12/2024 19:52

Ggs read my other posts. I am AUTISTIC.
I do not choose to be who I am, although I do now embrace it. My brain is actually wired in a way that depending on how overstimulated I am, conforming to social norms is somewhere between difficult (and exhausting) and impossible.
Oh and made harder by people with your nasty (and it is nasty) attitude and belief that everyone should be willing to indulge in conversation with someone they've never met before.

Tell you what, if you want someone that will chat to anyone (whether they want to or not), my teenage sons is also.autistic, but he is overly sociable, without understanding the rules. I'm sure you'd find him rude too, after an hour of being force.fed every single.little fact about Dr Who, with him not realising that not everyone is as interested in it as him, or.thay there are other things you can talk about.

I hear you

BettyBardMacDonald · 31/12/2024 19:54

Lentilweaver · 31/12/2024 16:10

I knew you would get responses like this.
Interrogation?
It's called conversation.
Not on MN though where everyone us terrified of speaking to strangers and hates everybody.
I agree with you, OP.

Same here.

It's considered rock-bottom politeness to chat with fellow guests. Basic adult manners.

fanaticalfairy · 31/12/2024 19:54

GoldsolesLugs · 31/12/2024 18:07

It seems that you think he owed you a conversation? He doesn't and was telling you he didn't want to engage with you. You missed the unsubtle cues and kept going and going at him. He'd probably made a judgement about you from hearing you talk to others, decided that he didn't like you, realized that he would probably not see you again and just couldn't be arsed with you.

It wasn't going on and on - just trying a couple of different avenues of seeing if he wanted to chat ..and then leaving him to his miserable self to sit at the side talking to nobody.

OP posts:
IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 31/12/2024 19:55

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Being a snob about people's social skills is also nothing to be proud of.

I take my time to warm up to strangers. I will go to social events to show my support or to celebrate the person I know there. And I will attempt to engage in conversation with people. But big crowds can make me nervous, and I tend to sit back til I've relaxed a bit.

If I'm in that kind of situation, it uses a lot of my energy to answer pleasantly and politely. If you're willing to bear with me and not tell me to sod off back home, I get to chatty, funny, sociable. But my first interactions with people in a large group are often me being quieter while I work out what I need to, to be comfortable.

If you tell me to "fuck offfff" or give me that kind of vibe, more than likely I'll never warm to you. Give me chance to relax and get comfortable, we'll be friends.

wordler · 31/12/2024 19:55

fanaticalfairy · 31/12/2024 19:54

It wasn't going on and on - just trying a couple of different avenues of seeing if he wanted to chat ..and then leaving him to his miserable self to sit at the side talking to nobody.

Edited

But happy and content?

BettyBardMacDonald · 31/12/2024 19:55

HowMuchShouldBePaid · 31/12/2024 16:12

It wasn't a networking event, tbh I find those sort of social situations (birthday etc) quite hard work having to "chat" to people I'll, in all likelihood, never see again.

Imagine being this lacking in curiosity and sociability. It's baffling.

fanaticalfairy · 31/12/2024 19:56

wizzywig · 31/12/2024 19:53

You're expecting a bit much from a steve/ graham/ engineer

Since when is engaging in basic conversation at a social event expecting too much ... ?

OP posts:
Sacredhandbag · 31/12/2024 19:56

TwigletsAndRadishes · 31/12/2024 19:51

Yes, I agree. You might get the answer 'I am an in house accountant for a plastic packaging manufacturer which is dull, I know, but I in my spare time I am a crime fiction writer/opera singer/special police constable/wiccan high priestess.'

Or 'I am a freelance Astrology consultant. people tell me the exact time and place of their birth and I send them a 10 page personal, highly detailed horoscope and I can tell them which star signs would make their ideal partner.'

Who couldn't get a fascinating conversation out of that?

Asking what they do for work in an easy opener, that's all. It would be weird and intrustive if you started a conversation by going straight into the more personal stuff.

Yes, exactly. It's an opener, an ice breaker, and a fairly common one too that most people can turn into something interesting if they try

fanaticalfairy · 31/12/2024 19:58

wordler · 31/12/2024 19:55

But happy and content?

What part of him sitting there miserable and alone led you to the conclusion that he was "happy and content '? 🤔

OP posts:
IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 31/12/2024 19:58

fanaticalfairy · 31/12/2024 19:58

What part of him sitting there miserable and alone led you to the conclusion that he was "happy and content '? 🤔

What part of "alone" lead you to "miserable"?

popduckhe · 31/12/2024 19:59

If you fear heights, do join a climbing club. If you can't swim, do join a swimming club. Maybe he does have social anxiety?
with your attitude, I couldn't be arsed speaking to you either ha

MolkosTeenageAngst · 31/12/2024 19:59

fanaticalfairy · 31/12/2024 19:58

What part of him sitting there miserable and alone led you to the conclusion that he was "happy and content '? 🤔

How do you know he was miserable?

ThePoliteLion · 31/12/2024 20:00

I’m with the OP. It’s basic good manners to make conversation at social events.

BettyBardMacDonald · 31/12/2024 20:00

Well said, @MyLadyGreensleeves

Anyone who cannot muster a decent response to something as innocuous as "any holidays planned" surely can at least bestir themselves to utter "not at the moment; and you?"

nellly · 31/12/2024 20:01

But they're not there to get to know each other lol it's not a networking event they're just there to celebrate/honour Graham surely!

I would find you utterly irritating at a birthday party!

nellly · 31/12/2024 20:01

Lentilweaver · 31/12/2024 16:10

I knew you would get responses like this.
Interrogation?
It's called conversation.
Not on MN though where everyone us terrified of speaking to strangers and hates everybody.
I agree with you, OP.

I like meeting new people but there's making conversation and then firing 5 or 6 questions t someone who's clearly not interested just that minute lol

ViolinsPlayGentlyOn · 31/12/2024 20:03

NeverDropYourMooncup · 31/12/2024 19:46

What if he doesn't go on holiday? Is he supposed to make something up on the spot?

Same with books. People aren't looking for an answer that contains the acronym SQL or is called The Soul of a New Machine.

I’d love to talk about either of those things - but I accept I’m probably in the minority.

I think it just sounds as though there was a mismatch in social styles. But if OP is also a software engineer, surely she’d have come across the “John type” before?

nellly · 31/12/2024 20:03

AMurderofMurderingCrows · 31/12/2024 16:16

Interrogation?? No social skills? Are you all mental?

OP you were making conversation and he just wasn't into it that's all. He maybe doesn't/can't do small talk. I hate it but have become a master of it because of my previous job. I'm as antisocial as they come but you coming over to introduce yourself would have been lovely and we would be BFFs before the day was done 😁❤️

Edited for dodgy grammar

Edited

The first two or so questions are totally fine but it's the persistence when he's clearly a bit noncommittal surely ? Asking how he knows Graham etc but then asking where he knows the next guy and what holidays he's going on within 5 minutes when he's seeming like he doesn't want to chat?

phoenixrosehere · 31/12/2024 20:03

fanaticalfairy · 31/12/2024 19:54

It wasn't going on and on - just trying a couple of different avenues of seeing if he wanted to chat ..and then leaving him to his miserable self to sit at the side talking to nobody.

Edited

He obviously didn’t want to by his first few answers. Why not accept it and move on?

You like to assume he’s miserable but he may have been happy and content to be left to take it all in for a bit instead of engaging in conversation at that particular moment.

You talked to others who were receptive to chatting with you right?

If so, why are you so bothered by him?

Wheelz46 · 31/12/2024 20:04

My child has social anxiety and selective mutism and thankfully his peers don't have the same attitude as some of the posters on here!

His peers/friends are really delightful and although they are generally outgoing, chatty kids, they always include him in play dates and get togethers. They don't judge him, they take him for who he is. Perhaps some of the posters on here can take the example of these primary school youngsters!

Lentilweaver · 31/12/2024 20:04

Newbeer · 31/12/2024 19:47

I’ve been in a social situation where I literally did ‘just stare at my plate’ because I was having an enormous panic attack. Not to worry though, I did as some people so pleasantly suggested and just stayed at home for over ten years afterwards, so no extroverts had to deal with the horror of encountering a quiet person at a party.

That is your prerogative.
I don't suggest that people who are quiet stay home. But I also am not going to follow the suggestion by the poster I responded to, that everybody only chats to people they know, and not ask questions of strangers, otherwise they are being "nosy".
I have moved around a lot in my life, and am often the only brown person in the room sometimes. If I only chatted to people I knew, I would have no friends at all.
I have no way of knowing which people are autistic, or which people have social anxiety, or which people are having a hard day, or which people just dont like me, so I will continue to chat to strangers and see how they respond. If they give me a couple of monosyllabic answers, I will walk away.

2025Y · 31/12/2024 20:05

PrettyParrot · 31/12/2024 16:44

Autistic person here - the OP's attempts at striking up a conversation with an unfamiliar person read as 'correct procedure' to me, as does her giving up when John didn't bother with more than 2 word replies.

If OP's approach is that bad, please could someone explain what a better approach would be? Thanks 😁

There's absolutely nothing wrong with the OP's approach.

It's John who didn't follow the correct protocols. When he was asked how he knew the birthday boy he should have replied how he knew him and then asked "And how do you know him".

He didn't because he was either rude, didn't want to talk to OP or has no social skills.

Reading some of the PPs makes me realise why there are so many "I don't have any friends" posts on mumnset!

Sacredhandbag · 31/12/2024 20:05

nellly · 31/12/2024 20:01

I like meeting new people but there's making conversation and then firing 5 or 6 questions t someone who's clearly not interested just that minute lol

If he'd made a tiny bit of effort at the first question, she wouldn't have had to go to the effort to find any more. She asked them because she wasn't getting any signs of life following the previous question.
She didn't fire questions - she tried to engage him.

It doesn't seem to have occured to a lot of people on this thread that trying to engage someone in conversation at a party is actually the kind, polite and normal thing to do. It's very unpleasant being at axparty where everyone ignores you and noone makes an effort and you leave feeling you were simply asked there to make up the numbers.

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