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To think of you're going to answer questions with "yeah.." or "no...." At a social event, then fuck offfff

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fanaticalfairy · 31/12/2024 16:06

Why bother coming out to meet people if you can't even engage in basic conversations with people who are all there to get to know each other?
We were out for a birthday brunch this morning with about 20 people, some we knew, some we didn't as it was for a mutual friend (Graham)
Me .. spying someone unfamiliar at our table..."hi, I'm Fairy, what's your name?
Him: "John "
Me: "great. How you know Graham "
John: " through a friend, Steve"
Me: "oh, yes I know Steve, he's lovely, how do you know Steve?
John" work'
Me: "So, what do you do with Steve?"
John: "Software engineer"
Me: "great what kind of thing? Im a software engineer too..."
John: "Nothing interesting....'
Me: "Oh... Ok. So ... Got any holidays booked?"
John: "No."Tumble weed

"Ok, lovely to meet you ... I'll go and see Graham is okay "

Ugh

OP posts:
tobee · 31/12/2024 18:34

There's people on here trying to gaslight op that she's the one with no social skills. Only on Mumsnet!!! Madness!!!

TribulationPeriwinkle · 31/12/2024 18:35

TequilaNights · 31/12/2024 18:33

He wasn't rude though, he just didn't want a conversation.

At a party, assuming no prior fall-outs with the OP, that is rude.

IncessantNameChanger · 31/12/2024 18:35

I'm a IT programmer and I'm not surrounded by introverted people at work. It's an alfwul lot of team work and brainstorming non stop asking colleagues to unpick what's going on when you find a bug and do much client work. How do social introverts get requires out of customers?

GoldsolesLugs · 31/12/2024 18:35

wordler · 31/12/2024 18:33

I know I keep banging on about body language but if I saw someone I didn’t know at a party and out of politeness decided to introduce myself and make some small talk I would know within seconds of saying hello if my company was welcome - even a fraction before that, at the point you catch their eye, smile and then say ‘Hi, I’m Wordler nice to meet you’

Before that sentence is out I can tell if my small talk is unwelcome, or going to be tolerated for politeness sake or there’s interest in a chat.

If it’s either of the first two, I would do a couple of minutes keeping it breezy and bland and move on.

If it’s the latter then I’m up for working with the person’s level of comfortableness on how personal questions get about themselves or if they want to talk about news, books, the food etc.

Yeah, that's it. OP thinks she is the master of social interaction when clearly she's oblivious to the signals people are sending her.

Notjustabrunette · 31/12/2024 18:35

fanaticalfairy · 31/12/2024 16:55

...still waiting for the amazing ice breakers and incredible conversation openers....

I chat GPD’d ‘ice breakers’, and this came back…
Here’s a great icebreaker question:
“If you could instantly master any skill, what would it be and why?”
The answer could be, “conversation starters in socially awkward situations”. 😜

AngelinaFibres · 31/12/2024 18:36

Lentilweaver · 31/12/2024 18:27

I am keeping count.
Conversation openers pp have suggested:
I know Steve because he once slept with my wife ( replace as needed)
The food is great.
The venue is great
Your outfit is great.
Let me tell you about cosplay ( replace with an unusual hobby of your own).

As said in Four weddings and a funeral"
Ah yes Toby( Steve) he was at school with my brother. Buggered me senseless.Happy days.

firef1y · 31/12/2024 18:36

tobee · 31/12/2024 18:34

There's people on here trying to gaslight op that she's the one with no social skills. Only on Mumsnet!!! Madness!!!

I think it's more a case that she seems to want everyone else to have the same social aptitude she has. And she doesn't have some of the social skills needed to.realise that her attentions were unwelcome.

GoldsolesLugs · 31/12/2024 18:36

tobee · 31/12/2024 18:34

There's people on here trying to gaslight op that she's the one with no social skills. Only on Mumsnet!!! Madness!!!

Gaslighting! Am I also practising coercive control?

Thatcastlethere · 31/12/2024 18:37

Auntywokery · 31/12/2024 18:27

I agree with OP and Tribulation (and Jeezus F Christ as my dear spouse would say). Making polite conversation, small talk in some lexicons, is part of civilised discourse/ social interaction. It’s not Miss Marple or the Masonic Third Degree. The trouble, it seems to me, is at least two-fold. 1. A large number of people are so wrapped up in themselves (solipsism is the besetting sin of our age, in my view) that they are unable or unwilling to stray outside their own little bubble of experience or comfort. And 2. So much time and effort is spent on SM and screens generally that empathy, engagement and even simple language skills are lost. Dumbing down and catering to the lowest common denominator is wreaking terrible damage on our culture. There, pick the bones out of that, MNers.

I'll pick the bones of it. You are doing what you accuse others of. This massively lacks empathy. You communicate in a certain way and are sure that is the 'normal way' that everyone should communicate. No attempt to understand why people may not be able to nor want to do that.. other than to loosely blame the Internet.
You expect people to cater to you and your communication needs and if they don't.. instead of thinking 'well for whatever reason that person is unable to meet my communication needs so I'll try and talk to someone else' you blame them.. consider it a flaw in them.. and actually imply they are dumb.
Pretty closed minded of you really.
Perhaps it's just that you are boring and not as good at conversation as you think so they can't be arsed talking to you??

I think it's not actually the issue you make it all out to be. You are you and they are they. People are different. That's all it is. You won't click with everyone. You won't understand everyone.
I certainly have met people who I've considered lovely warm people.. only later to hear someone else calling them rude and aloof.
People are all so different. Our needs are all so different, the way we express ourselves.

Just chalk it up to difference if you have a difficult interaction with someone. Why get on your high horse about it? Why project onto them negatively?

BalonzHadASupersoaker · 31/12/2024 18:38

Randomontheinternet25 · 31/12/2024 18:31

I'm not, but I get updates that x amount of replies have been added to whatever thread and you keep banging on and on and and on

Banging on? But I just asked you how you know Michael and what you do for a living? 😊

hazelnutvanillalatte · 31/12/2024 18:40

fanaticalfairy · 31/12/2024 16:55

...still waiting for the amazing ice breakers and incredible conversation openers....

LOL if you post on AIBU you will get a bunch of bitter trolls eager for a pile on. The irony of these posters talking about social skills

GoldsolesLugs · 31/12/2024 18:40

TribulationPeriwinkle · 31/12/2024 18:35

At a party, assuming no prior fall-outs with the OP, that is rude.

No it isn't. You might say that there's an implicit contract to be sociable, but not necessarily with everyone. Maybe the guy though OP was a twat. Maybe OP is a twat. I don't know and neither do you. He chose to communicate that he didn't want to interact with her and that's fine.

firef1y · 31/12/2024 18:40

BalonzHadASupersoaker · 31/12/2024 18:38

Banging on? But I just asked you how you know Michael and what you do for a living? 😊

And got an answer. Seriously, if you want to get more detailed answers then you need to ask open questions rather than closed.

ETA :
A closed question would be one that requires a short, 1-3 word answers. For example "do you enjoy running?"

An open question would be one that allows elaboration such as "what is it about running you enjoy or dislike?"

Question 1 would only demand a yes, no, kind of answer
Question 2 would allow the person to elaborate and would more likely lead to a conversation about (in this case because it is my hyperfocus) running.

mdinbc · 31/12/2024 18:41

So, at a brunch, I'm assuming the OP would have been sitting at a table next to the non-social man. At some point I would have turned away, and tried to have a conversation with the person on the other side. That's one reason a good host organizes the seating with thought in advance.

This reminds me of a time I went to a social gathering including quite a few engineers. Oh boy, I hate to categorize people, but I think quite a few of them were brilliant but neuro divergent. This is in the years before this was recognized. That was one of the strangest get-togethers I've been to. Very hard to get small-talk rather than technical chat.

LaughingCat · 31/12/2024 18:41

@fanaticalfairy - my issue isn’t with your handling of the situation. Pretty standard - you tried a couple of questions and moved on when you didn’t get much back.

My issue is with your response to what, perceived rejection? Someone came to a brunch to eat some nice food and support a friend. He didn’t come to make new friends, he sounds like he was probably quite introverted and just wasn’t comfortable chatting to you.

Your reaction? To get so pee’d off that someone wouldn’t engage with you at a brunch that instead of just brushing it off, you went online to ask the internet if you’re unreasonable to think introverts at social events should ‘fuck offfff’?

Jeez! 🙄

GoldsolesLugs · 31/12/2024 18:41

hazelnutvanillalatte · 31/12/2024 18:40

LOL if you post on AIBU you will get a bunch of bitter trolls eager for a pile on. The irony of these posters talking about social skills

Fantastic advice. Which forum are you posting on at the moment?

GoldsolesLugs · 31/12/2024 18:43

LaughingCat · 31/12/2024 18:41

@fanaticalfairy - my issue isn’t with your handling of the situation. Pretty standard - you tried a couple of questions and moved on when you didn’t get much back.

My issue is with your response to what, perceived rejection? Someone came to a brunch to eat some nice food and support a friend. He didn’t come to make new friends, he sounds like he was probably quite introverted and just wasn’t comfortable chatting to you.

Your reaction? To get so pee’d off that someone wouldn’t engage with you at a brunch that instead of just brushing it off, you went online to ask the internet if you’re unreasonable to think introverts at social events should ‘fuck offfff’?

Jeez! 🙄

It's odd that someone behaving like this would boil her piss to this degree. Could it be that she thinks she's the main character, and gets unduly upset when someone doesn't agree?

tobee · 31/12/2024 18:44

JLou08 · 31/12/2024 17:19

Quite a cruel post. Maybe he just didn't want to talk to you or maybe he had things going on or mental health issues and it took all his courage to go out and your response to it is that he should "fuck off".

People have a funny idea about what is "cruel" Confused

midgetastic · 31/12/2024 18:45

but I think quite a few of them were brilliant but neuro divergent. This is in the years before this was recognized. That was one of the strangest get-togethers I've been to. Very hard to get small-talk rather than technical

They were probably thinking - wow one of the best socials I have ever been too, people actually had something interesting to say 😀

beenwhereyouare · 31/12/2024 18:46

Beluckymate · 31/12/2024 16:21

Lol ... nothing wrong with 'making conversation' when you see a new face. I don't think you put him under any stress unless he's painfully shy. I feel your pain OP. I regret wasting my breathe on these poor people. They should just stay at home or face the wall 😅😂😂😂😂

So you think people should be punished for being an introvert or having (sometimes severe) social anxiety?

He was there for his friend's birthday, under no obligation to make chit chat with someone who was rude and pushy. After the second question, it should have been obvious he didn't want to talk.

I can't imagine why anyone would think it's polite or even acceptable to make judgements about someone's personality and social skills.

You and others don't have the right to dictate "correct" party behaviour, and@fanaticalfairy definitely had no need to make a thread about it. Someone may recognize the poor guy in this situation.

GravyBoatWars · 31/12/2024 18:46

This wasn’t a networking event or social mixer. John presumably came to celebrate his friend Graham’s birthday - he wasn’t there to get to know you or anyone else and that’s ok.

Nothing you asked was abnormal. And nothing he said was rude, he was just sending clear “I’m not looking for a conversation” signals with basic answers and not reciprocating. But the fact that you’re hung up on this one person not wanting to chat with you is ridiculous.

It sounds like you went around trying to engage everyone in conversation. That’s great that you’re someone who sees an occasion like this as a time to do some fun mingling and maybe make new friends out of mutual acquaintances; that sort of engagement is really appreciated by many people. But some people are the opposite in that they absolutely dread making small talk and having a bunch of get-to-know-you questions and it’s not your job to convert them to your ways any more than it would have been John’s place to suggest you go sit quietly on your own and soak in the atmosphere. Whether you can wrap your mind around it or not, some people enjoy a party FAR more when they can sit on the side sipping a drink. Respect that and politely take their cue and move on to someone who does want to chat.

Fizbosshoes · 31/12/2024 18:47

I went to a hen w/e with about 15 people. I knew the hen, her mum, and one other person. I didn't feel interrogated and hopefully I didn't interrogate anyone else, but I feel like I made a few new friends and got to know people better....by just chatting (I'm not really an extrovert)

It would have been a pretty boring weekend if I hadn't engaged with anyone I didn't know before

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MzHz · 31/12/2024 18:48

@fanaticalfairy you did nothing wrong. Ignore all the idiots

it was a social event, even the most “IT type“ people there know that it’s a social event and as hard as it is for them, they have chosen to come

you tried. At least you tried.

tobee · 31/12/2024 18:49

Quite possibly @GoldsolesLugs

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