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To think of you're going to answer questions with "yeah.." or "no...." At a social event, then fuck offfff

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fanaticalfairy · 31/12/2024 16:06

Why bother coming out to meet people if you can't even engage in basic conversations with people who are all there to get to know each other?
We were out for a birthday brunch this morning with about 20 people, some we knew, some we didn't as it was for a mutual friend (Graham)
Me .. spying someone unfamiliar at our table..."hi, I'm Fairy, what's your name?
Him: "John "
Me: "great. How you know Graham "
John: " through a friend, Steve"
Me: "oh, yes I know Steve, he's lovely, how do you know Steve?
John" work'
Me: "So, what do you do with Steve?"
John: "Software engineer"
Me: "great what kind of thing? Im a software engineer too..."
John: "Nothing interesting....'
Me: "Oh... Ok. So ... Got any holidays booked?"
John: "No."Tumble weed

"Ok, lovely to meet you ... I'll go and see Graham is okay "

Ugh

OP posts:
NooNakedJacuzziness · 31/12/2024 18:24

"Is there anything you'd like to know about me?"
"No"
I'd definitely like to get to know the person replying with that - brutal! Grin

Georgyporky · 31/12/2024 18:25

I was told QE2 used that as an opening gambit, followed by
"And how long have you been doing it ?"
As if she gave a flying fuck about the answers.

firef1y · 31/12/2024 18:25

Gwenhwyfar · 31/12/2024 18:20

The way shy people make friends - painfully and very, very slowly :)

You don't talk to the stranger the first time you meet them, then you see them around and after seeing them a few times you may start making conversation, etc.

It took 4years for my now best friend to get more than 1 word answers from me. Luckily she thought I was worth the effort, had realised (before I did) that I was autistic and took it as slow as I needed to strike up a friendship.

CarolinaWren · 31/12/2024 18:25

BalonzHadASupersoaker · 31/12/2024 18:21

I read it. I’m genuinely not sure what in my response to @CheeseTime makes you think that I didn’t?

I guess I shouldn't make optimistic assumptions about posters' reading comprehension.

NewFriendlyLadybird · 31/12/2024 18:25

firef1y · 31/12/2024 18:07

Yay, just as I thought I'm rude and don't deserve to be invited anywhere.

I, however, find the people that can't stop talking in these situations, who insist on talking to me even when I'm blatantly uncomfortable, that try to force eye contact (happens quite a lot even after I explain that I'm autistic, please give me a while) rude. And wish they would slow down with the questions and give me time to work out a socially acceptable answer to the first question.

Just so you know, that if someone really makes the effort, and that means giving me space when I need it (especially if we've first met) I can hold a semi-decent conversation. It just takes me longer to think of a suitable answer (that's not a single word) and very often, with a less patient person the conversation has moved on several subjects before I can formulate an answer.

Well that’s a wilful misinterpretation of what I said.

It’s rude to go to a social event with the intention of not engaging. It’s rude to be horrified at someone trying to make conversation. If someone doesn’t like social events they shouldn’t go to them.

However, it is NOT rude to want to engage but to find it difficult. And it’s not rude to try to talk to someone who finds it difficult and maybe get it a bit wrong. There needs to be understanding on both sides.

discocherry · 31/12/2024 18:26

CarolinaWren · 31/12/2024 18:15

Obviously you didn't bother to read the post before replying. This is the reply I quoted, "A tip for the introverts, turn it back on to the extrovert, they love talking about themselves, a couple of reciprocal questions and you won’t have to contribute much more." So, yes, some people aren't going to enjoy turning the conversation over to someone who loves talking about themselves.

Then that’s completely fine - feel free not to take the poster up on that tip.

In your example, the “extrovert” would then be literally just answering questions that they had been asked, not monologuing out of nowhere. I would agree with you if you were talking about someone just walking up to a stranger and beginning to talk about themselves unprompted!

BalonzHadASupersoaker · 31/12/2024 18:26

AngelinaFibres · 31/12/2024 18:23

But that's in your hands. She comes up and says " Hi my name is Jane what's yours and how do you know Steve" You could have said " Hi I'm Derek nice to meet you ( that bit can be true or a lie. No-one gives a toss) I met Steve when we paraglided off a mountain in Wales "
" Holy hell" would have been my response and off the conversation goes. Some people are incredibly dull. Some people will surprise you. Be more surprising .

Oh God, I have to hope that people try to be a bit less surprising. But I suppose I’d still appreciate that they’re trying to make conversation. I will say that the few seconds OP tried for, it’s fine. My opinion changes if I get stuck for half an hour, though 😊

I feel sorry for anybody who actually is a bit socially anxious reading this thread though. Unless you can talk about extreme sports and have advanced body language reading skills, don’t bother. Don’t ask somebody basic small talk questions.

Auntywokery · 31/12/2024 18:27

I agree with OP and Tribulation (and Jeezus F Christ as my dear spouse would say). Making polite conversation, small talk in some lexicons, is part of civilised discourse/ social interaction. It’s not Miss Marple or the Masonic Third Degree. The trouble, it seems to me, is at least two-fold. 1. A large number of people are so wrapped up in themselves (solipsism is the besetting sin of our age, in my view) that they are unable or unwilling to stray outside their own little bubble of experience or comfort. And 2. So much time and effort is spent on SM and screens generally that empathy, engagement and even simple language skills are lost. Dumbing down and catering to the lowest common denominator is wreaking terrible damage on our culture. There, pick the bones out of that, MNers.

Lentilweaver · 31/12/2024 18:27

I am keeping count.
Conversation openers pp have suggested:
I know Steve because he once slept with my wife ( replace as needed)
The food is great.
The venue is great
Your outfit is great.
Let me tell you about cosplay ( replace with an unusual hobby of your own).

GoldsolesLugs · 31/12/2024 18:27

BalonzHadASupersoaker · 31/12/2024 18:23

No, not excessively. And nobody has to be polite to anybody else, I think this thread attests to that. They’re also at the same birthday party, it’s not like sidling up to somebody at a bar.

No, it's worse - he was stuck there, whereas at a bar you can sod off!
He was perfectly polite to her, he just didn't want to talk to her. Most people can handle this but apparently it boils OP's piss so much that she has to come and squirt it all over the internet.

BalonzHadASupersoaker · 31/12/2024 18:28

CarolinaWren · 31/12/2024 18:25

I guess I shouldn't make optimistic assumptions about posters' reading comprehension.

Oh, that’s nice, thank you. As I said, I genuinely didn’t understand what I had misinterpreted. But as long as that’s my basic intelligence level versus a conversation about that, I’ll bow my (stupid) head 😊

Randomontheinternet25 · 31/12/2024 18:28

@BalonzHadASupersoaker you do realise that this isn't your thread?
You've replied more than the op.

BalonzHadASupersoaker · 31/12/2024 18:28

Randomontheinternet25 · 31/12/2024 18:28

@BalonzHadASupersoaker you do realise that this isn't your thread?
You've replied more than the op.

I didn’t realise you were counting, I’m pretty sure the OP probably backed out slowly when she saw some of the responses.

StrawberrySquash · 31/12/2024 18:29

GoldsolesLugs · 31/12/2024 18:22

Do women have to be excessively polite to men they don't want to talk to at social occasions?

If a man asks me a neutral opening question like that, answering politely isn't being excessively polite it's just engaging in normal social interactions. Obviously if he's a creep or bores on for hours I'll be looking to make my escape.

discocherry · 31/12/2024 18:29

Randomontheinternet25 · 31/12/2024 18:28

@BalonzHadASupersoaker you do realise that this isn't your thread?
You've replied more than the op.

Odd that you have an issue with that.

TribulationPeriwinkle · 31/12/2024 18:29

Where can I find the guidelines on how many posts per thread a non-OP is allowed?

Livingtothefull · 31/12/2024 18:31

Gwenhwyfar · 31/12/2024 18:17

Ok Darcy is a bit proud and snobby, but he does also have a shy side while being a very good person. OP's friend of a friend might be similar...

Yes Darcy is fundamentally a good person.....but unfortunately he is genuinely socially rude and arrogant and is justly criticised for it at the start of the novel. He himself acknowledges this once he has learned better.

GoldsolesLugs · 31/12/2024 18:31

StrawberrySquash · 31/12/2024 18:29

If a man asks me a neutral opening question like that, answering politely isn't being excessively polite it's just engaging in normal social interactions. Obviously if he's a creep or bores on for hours I'll be looking to make my escape.

This guy answered politely though - he obviously just didn't want to talk to OP - should he have said "Let me just stop you there - I don't want to talk to you"? People seem to be acting like he owes her his emotional labour.

NewFriendlyLadybird · 31/12/2024 18:31

Gwenhwyfar · 31/12/2024 18:17

Ok Darcy is a bit proud and snobby, but he does also have a shy side while being a very good person. OP's friend of a friend might be similar...

Yes. But Darcy was rude at that event. We see later that he’s perfectly capable of making conversation. He just chose not to. And thank goodness for that: there wouldn’t have been much of a novel otherwise.

Randomontheinternet25 · 31/12/2024 18:31

BalonzHadASupersoaker · 31/12/2024 18:28

I didn’t realise you were counting, I’m pretty sure the OP probably backed out slowly when she saw some of the responses.

I'm not, but I get updates that x amount of replies have been added to whatever thread and you keep banging on and on and and on

AngelinaFibres · 31/12/2024 18:32

BalonzHadASupersoaker · 31/12/2024 18:26

Oh God, I have to hope that people try to be a bit less surprising. But I suppose I’d still appreciate that they’re trying to make conversation. I will say that the few seconds OP tried for, it’s fine. My opinion changes if I get stuck for half an hour, though 😊

I feel sorry for anybody who actually is a bit socially anxious reading this thread though. Unless you can talk about extreme sports and have advanced body language reading skills, don’t bother. Don’t ask somebody basic small talk questions.

It's just an extreme example. When she expressed surprise he could just have just laughed, and said " No of course I didn't paraglide off a mountain I work in IT. I'm odd not bonkers" and off the conversation goes

firef1y · 31/12/2024 18:32

Lentilweaver · 31/12/2024 18:27

I am keeping count.
Conversation openers pp have suggested:
I know Steve because he once slept with my wife ( replace as needed)
The food is great.
The venue is great
Your outfit is great.
Let me tell you about cosplay ( replace with an unusual hobby of your own).

Let me tell you everything you would ever need to know about my running. Oh and I was at the gym this morning, did a wicked crossfit style workout, beat my time. You should really give it a try, I'm a personal trainer so I can show you how to do the exercises. Oh did you know I've run 6 marathons, I love running......the best trainers are....

Trouble is I know that most people don't want to hear that, and would rather the one word answers.

Hint folks, we've been told 100s if not 1000s of times that nobody else wants to listen to our info dumps

wordler · 31/12/2024 18:33

AngelinaFibres · 31/12/2024 18:23

But that's in your hands. She comes up and says " Hi my name is Jane what's yours and how do you know Steve" You could have said " Hi I'm Derek nice to meet you ( that bit can be true or a lie. No-one gives a toss) I met Steve when we paraglided off a mountain in Wales "
" Holy hell" would have been my response and off the conversation goes. Some people are incredibly dull. Some people will surprise you. Be more surprising .

I know I keep banging on about body language but if I saw someone I didn’t know at a party and out of politeness decided to introduce myself and make some small talk I would know within seconds of saying hello if my company was welcome - even a fraction before that, at the point you catch their eye, smile and then say ‘Hi, I’m Wordler nice to meet you’

Before that sentence is out I can tell if my small talk is unwelcome, or going to be tolerated for politeness sake or there’s interest in a chat.

If it’s either of the first two, I would do a couple of minutes keeping it breezy and bland and move on.

If it’s the latter then I’m up for working with the person’s level of comfortableness on how personal questions get about themselves or if they want to talk about news, books, the food etc.

TequilaNights · 31/12/2024 18:33

fanaticalfairy · 31/12/2024 16:56

Perhaps not. But it was likely.

But doesn't mean you have to be rude.

He wasn't rude though, he just didn't want a conversation.

TribulationPeriwinkle · 31/12/2024 18:33

firef1y · 31/12/2024 18:32

Let me tell you everything you would ever need to know about my running. Oh and I was at the gym this morning, did a wicked crossfit style workout, beat my time. You should really give it a try, I'm a personal trainer so I can show you how to do the exercises. Oh did you know I've run 6 marathons, I love running......the best trainers are....

Trouble is I know that most people don't want to hear that, and would rather the one word answers.

Hint folks, we've been told 100s if not 1000s of times that nobody else wants to listen to our info dumps

I’d genuinely much rather be on the receiving end of an info dump like that than monosyllables.

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