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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

It's too late, right?

459 replies

TrackDay · 30/12/2024 21:13

I'm 40. DH is 52. Happily married for 15 years, childfree.

Hormones have hit me like a freight train - I want a baby.

It's way, way too late, right? It's just hormones. It'll pass?

OP posts:
StarDolphins · 30/12/2024 23:06

BIossomtoes · 30/12/2024 23:04

You’re irresponsible because you’re basing your opinion on being the child of older parents. None of you egging this woman on will have deal with a high risk pregnancy, increased risk of birth defects or the 18 year old with a pensioner dad. It’s easy to blithely encourage someone to do something when you’ll never have to deal with the consequences.

Some people born to young parents don’t get a pensioner parent. There’s lots of 30/40-something parents that die.

Crushed23 · 30/12/2024 23:07

I don't think the percentages are accumulative. Each time, you start from the same baseline. So the chances will always be 5% on each try.

Yes, exactly. 5% on each try. So a more than 5% chance overall if you keep trying for a year or more.

Rainbowdottie · 30/12/2024 23:07

I read very recently "you only regret the children you didn't have". This really struck a chord with me...I don't regret either of my kids but I regret not having a third. Maybe just something to sit with.

petedicks · 30/12/2024 23:07

foyc · 30/12/2024 23:04

But 52 is still a relatively young father if fit and healthy.

Relative to what? Robert DeNiro?!

Haha! This made me laugh.

My friend is 57 and has a 14 year old son with severe disabilities. It's so hard. Especially now he and his ex have split. I know he loves him but he doesn't seem young. Can't imagine him being 66 and coping.

52 is too old imho

SecretSoul · 30/12/2024 23:09

ThatKhakiMoose · 30/12/2024 23:05

No, you're right. If the chance is 5% on each cycle, the chances are only ever 5%.

No idea how the maths stacks up but apparently 44% of 40 year olds will be pregnant within a year of trying. That's based on the figure of 5% average chances per cycle.

I can't wrap my head around the maths in that but apparently those are the correct figures 😂

TrackDay · 30/12/2024 23:09

SexAndCakes · 30/12/2024 23:04

From what you have said it breaks down like this:

Pros: Stable, loving marriage. Ideal finances, home, and lifestyle to support a child into adulthood. Good health in both partners. Have thought through the long-term implications and still want a child.

Cons: health risks associated with older parents.

I would suggest you look into the health risks to make sure you have the whole picture; then make a fully informed decision.

FWIW in your shoes I would 100% go for it.

This is helpful, thank you! I'll research more, and will keep talking with DH too.

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kitteninabasket · 30/12/2024 23:10

For me, the biggest concern would be how long you and your DH would be around for your child. My dad was 47 when I was born and died of cancer when I was 21. I was effectively orphaned and it's been really hard to say the least. People often say on these threads 'well you could have a child at 30 and get knocked down by a bus at 40', but the older you get the more likely you are to die.

At 40 I don't think this is so much of an issue, but 53 is quite different. Sorry to sound macabre but in terms of life expectancy, statistically speaking, your DH would have about a 65% chance of seeing your child's 27th birthday and a 50% chance of seeing their 30th (assuming you conceived straight away).

Hopefully you'd both live to ripe old ages of course, just offering my 2p from the perspective of someone who lost their parent young.

AlertCat · 30/12/2024 23:10

Crushed23 · 30/12/2024 23:07

I don't think the percentages are accumulative. Each time, you start from the same baseline. So the chances will always be 5% on each try.

Yes, exactly. 5% on each try. So a more than 5% chance overall if you keep trying for a year or more.

Please explain how? You don’t add the percentages together, it’s the same chance on each throw of the dice, so pleAse remind me why the chance is greater the more times you do it?

(i did probability in 3rd year, over thirty years ago!)

Ablondiebutagoody · 30/12/2024 23:10

BIossomtoes · 30/12/2024 23:04

You’re irresponsible because you’re basing your opinion on being the child of older parents. None of you egging this woman on will have deal with a high risk pregnancy, increased risk of birth defects or the 18 year old with a pensioner dad. It’s easy to blithely encourage someone to do something when you’ll never have to deal with the consequences.

My friend had a pensioner dad. Ex paratrooper, saw action in Suez, once nutted an 20 odd year old oik in a pub who was getting lairy. He was in his late 60's. He was a legend.

Fourfurrymonsters · 30/12/2024 23:10

Your husband will be 70 when your baby is just heading off to uni. Do you really want that?
Be aware that this is your body playing tricks on you. You’ve been happily CF but now your hormones are playing Last Chance Saloon before menopause, which is all well and good but when reality hits and you’re up half the night with a screaming bairn it won’t seem like such a fabulous idea.

foyc · 30/12/2024 23:10

I read very recently "you only regret the children you didn't have". This really struck a chord with me...I don't regret either of my kids but I regret not having a third. Maybe just something to sit with.

I can only assume you're new to parenting forums if you've only heard this spouted out recently!

PerditaLaChien · 30/12/2024 23:10

Is adopting an older child or fostering of any interest to you?

What makes you think this is relevant here? Adoption/fostering aren't an answer to having left it late to procreate biologically. They are totally different concepts - these days most children in the adoption/fostering system have experienced a lot of trauma or neglect and require very committed parents who can understand & be prepared to meet those needs. Adoption typically comes with much higher than average rates of FASD, damage due to antenatal drug exposure, high risk of disabilities & emotional/attachment disorders.

Basketballhoop · 30/12/2024 23:12

LoafofSellotape · 30/12/2024 22:38

Pregnancy, giving birth ,the terrible twos and peri menopause all in the same decade - eek!

I had mine in my late 30s and had all of this in the same decade.
Admittedly, my peri phase has been monumentally long and I still have occasional periods in my 50s, so still can't declare myself post menopausal. 🤦‍♀️

foyc · 30/12/2024 23:12

There’s lots of 30/40-something parents that die.

"Lots"? Or actually, a very small minority, statistically?

BIossomtoes · 30/12/2024 23:12

Ablondiebutagoody · 30/12/2024 23:10

My friend had a pensioner dad. Ex paratrooper, saw action in Suez, once nutted an 20 odd year old oik in a pub who was getting lairy. He was in his late 60's. He was a legend.

Sounds great - a violent squaddie. Just what every child needs.

Candy24 · 30/12/2024 23:13

BIossomtoes · 30/12/2024 23:04

You’re irresponsible because you’re basing your opinion on being the child of older parents. None of you egging this woman on will have deal with a high risk pregnancy, increased risk of birth defects or the 18 year old with a pensioner dad. It’s easy to blithely encourage someone to do something when you’ll never have to deal with the consequences.

Again have you had a baby in your 40's? If not your not qualified to speak on the subject as you sounds so ignorant. Times have changed.

Candy24 · 30/12/2024 23:13

BIossomtoes · 30/12/2024 23:12

Sounds great - a violent squaddie. Just what every child needs.

well aren't you delightful.lol

Candy24 · 30/12/2024 23:14

Ablondiebutagoody · 30/12/2024 23:10

My friend had a pensioner dad. Ex paratrooper, saw action in Suez, once nutted an 20 odd year old oik in a pub who was getting lairy. He was in his late 60's. He was a legend.

Oh I do love these older soldiers what a life story.

WestwardHo1 · 30/12/2024 23:14

foyc · 30/12/2024 23:12

There’s lots of 30/40-something parents that die.

"Lots"? Or actually, a very small minority, statistically?

Quite.

I'm about to turn 50. Out of my year group of 60 or so in the sixth form, precisely three are no longer with us. That's not "lots".

I can guarantee there'll be quite a few more within 15 or so years though.

foyc · 30/12/2024 23:14

My friend had a pensioner dad. Ex paratrooper, saw action in Suez, once nutted an 20 odd year old oik in a pub who was getting lairy. He was in his late 60's. He was a legend.

We really have to admit at this point that if the 2 sides were getting scored the "pro go for it side" would be really struggling for points right now.

Lentilweaver · 30/12/2024 23:15

foyc · 30/12/2024 23:12

There’s lots of 30/40-something parents that die.

"Lots"? Or actually, a very small minority, statistically?

Maybe they were run over by that bus that keeps knocking over 30 something parents.

Ablondiebutagoody · 30/12/2024 23:15

BIossomtoes · 30/12/2024 23:12

Sounds great - a violent squaddie. Just what every child needs.

I guess you had to be there 😂. Went down a storm.

Rainbowdottie · 30/12/2024 23:15

foyc · 30/12/2024 23:10

I read very recently "you only regret the children you didn't have". This really struck a chord with me...I don't regret either of my kids but I regret not having a third. Maybe just something to sit with.

I can only assume you're new to parenting forums if you've only heard this spouted out recently!

No I'm 50 years old lol. But it is the first time I've heard it. No crime there 😀

Musicismyfriend · 30/12/2024 23:15

I'd say just go ahead and get pregnant, you haven't got time on your side to be putting it off..Wouldn't it be lovely for you in years to come to have the company and support of your child if anything did happen to your husband

UnderTheStairs51 · 30/12/2024 23:15

In your position I'd probably do 'let nature decide'. I wouldn't do anything to prevent it but wouldn't start tracking ovulation and trying in the full on sense (which can often have the opposite effect as it introduces a lot of stress).

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