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Our comfort chat turned into an ear slitting screaming session

436 replies

Bridget05 · 29/12/2024 14:29

Scream GIF by Originals

Ok admittedly I'm possibly much older than you lot out there, so I might need to call a taxi but here goes.
It's just after Christmas and I live in a tiny village with one coffee shop. We attract loads of families walking on weekends which is fine. But of course the shop is heaving. Again it's OK.
My friend had an awful Christmas day with an adult autistic son, a missing pet cat = son meltdown and she just needed a shoulder. Could not go to either home as hers contains adult son, mine contains old husband watching Wheeler Dealers on full volume.
So we luckily find our usual table and get a coffee ....okaaayyy I had cake as well.
A group of grandparents, parents and a toddler arrive and sit next to us..still OK.

Now I fully understand toddlers are noisy, I get it. But to keep the already overexcited child entertained they then began an interminable game of peek a boo, who's got your nose, piggy toes etc, which then turns a chatty chirping child into a screaming harpy , creating such a noise that no one can speak. My poor friend was almost in tears from the stress.
Eventually I nicely said (yes I can do nice) that while everyone understands children's noise, could they please not add to it by encouraging her.
Seems walkers from the big city find it difficult to take polite requests. Enough said.
So AIBU to just expect a parent not to encouraging loud noise in an already packed out Cafe or us it open season on quiet breaks now.

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BettyBardMacDonald · 29/12/2024 20:39

FastFood · 29/12/2024 20:06

Honestly OP, I think YABU.
I'm generally happy with the "children are painful can they just shut up and why not just stop existing when I'm around" but I think a coffee-shop, as a community spot, is also a good place for them.

My local coffee-shop has a lot of kids, dogs (inc. mine), remote workers, breastfeeding mums, pensioners etc...and that's what I love about it. Surely sometimes a dog barks, a kid screeches, a woman has an irritating laugh, a guy has coughing fit, but that's just life.
For me, it's like the wind: annoying, sometimes VERY ANNOYING, but nothing you can do about it, and it actually has an important function.

A brief bark or laugh is hardly as disruptive as continuous screeching deliberately egged on by family members.

NewName24 · 29/12/2024 22:47

Those parents were incredibly inconsiderate. If they choose to be in a public place, then they need to have some level of consideration for people around them and not actively encourage a toddler to scream loudly. If they want to do that, stay at home.

How do you know that ?
The OP was obviously trying to garner sympathy.
We have no idea of the actual level of noise - the OP and her friend seem fairly intolerant, and we don't have access to the a description of events from either the parents, or from any other independent witnesses.

Bridget05 · 29/12/2024 22:59

Ag shame. Triggered by a gif.....possibly avoid online discussions then.....see what I did there ?

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Bridget05 · 29/12/2024 23:01

Thank you for actually reading my nessage. It was not the normal noise, it was being encouraged to scream excitedly all the time.

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Katbum · 29/12/2024 23:02

Bridget05 · 29/12/2024 23:01

Thank you for actually reading my nessage. It was not the normal noise, it was being encouraged to scream excitedly all the time.

'It'. How charming. Sounds like an excitable child giggling and being loud. If you don't like that don't go to places where children are.

Bridget05 · 29/12/2024 23:04

NewName24 · 29/12/2024 22:47

Those parents were incredibly inconsiderate. If they choose to be in a public place, then they need to have some level of consideration for people around them and not actively encourage a toddler to scream loudly. If they want to do that, stay at home.

How do you know that ?
The OP was obviously trying to garner sympathy.
We have no idea of the actual level of noise - the OP and her friend seem fairly intolerant, and we don't have access to the a description of events from either the parents, or from any other independent witnesses.

Seriously, I'm not looking for sympathy. I don't need it. Of you actually read my post without prejudice you would surely see that normal noise is fine. I might have my dog with me who might occasionally bark ( he doesn't but use your imagination) and then I tease him encouraging him to bsrk constantly.....do you get my meaning.

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Bridget05 · 29/12/2024 23:08

Katbum · 29/12/2024 23:02

'It'. How charming. Sounds like an excitable child giggling and being loud. If you don't like that don't go to places where children are.

Oh go on.....now you are just nit picking. It. Her she them they whatever. You clearly did not read what I said, normal noise is fine....and who mentioned giggling....I'm talking full on air raid siren. All I wanted was for them just to take it down a notch and not get a child overexcited in a very busy crowded place where people are trying to hear each other. You are simply reading into it what you want to.

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Katbum · 29/12/2024 23:10

Bridget05 · 29/12/2024 23:08

Oh go on.....now you are just nit picking. It. Her she them they whatever. You clearly did not read what I said, normal noise is fine....and who mentioned giggling....I'm talking full on air raid siren. All I wanted was for them just to take it down a notch and not get a child overexcited in a very busy crowded place where people are trying to hear each other. You are simply reading into it what you want to.

I mean. Children can be loud. The way you describe it they were playing with the child to keep them entertained and prevent crying/acting up. You have a husband at home and you can't even get him to turn the telly down! Yet tou expect other people to accomodate your noise preferences in a public space? YABVVU

MichaelAndEagle · 29/12/2024 23:11

Would it have been ok with you if the child was glued to an ipad so the grown ups could have their chat? Headphones on of course. Or would that also be a mark of bad parenting?

Bridget05 · 29/12/2024 23:11

HelpMeGetThrough · 29/12/2024 15:21

mine contains old husband watching Wheeler Dealers on full volume.

Send him my way. I have 14 years worth in the planner to watch. Admittedly I've already watched most (if not all), but they are like a good book, worth a repeat visit.

Reckon I could change a head gasket after watching that lot.

He's boxed up and ready. Just need your address.

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Bridget05 · 29/12/2024 23:13

brunettemic · 29/12/2024 16:51

Why can’t OP and her friend who can’t deal with being around people making noise (or so it seems) sit outside or go for a calming walk?

Because she wanted a brew and a sit down, not a walk....that's why. Next time I think we will just start drinking earlier.

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Bridget05 · 29/12/2024 23:14

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Bridget05 · 29/12/2024 23:15

BettyBardMacDonald · 29/12/2024 17:18

Totally agree.

Parents of young kids need to accept that for a few years there are things they can't do.

Pack a flask and sit in the car at the edge of a park, or something.

Thank you.....you are a goddess

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Bridget05 · 29/12/2024 23:16

Spirallingdownwards · 29/12/2024 16:52

The OP's friend was already in a place of oversensitivity having had a bad Christnas due her child's behaviour. The OP has clearly described a situation where they don't like these pesky city folks. I therefore suggest the other family may well have been interacting in a normal way and at a normal noise level but the cafe was not an appropriate venue for the oversensitive friend to find comfort especially when the friend accompanying her already had issues with the other people being there. Would love to have been a fly on the wall to see the true events.

Edited

Please where did I say I don't like pesky city folks...stop making stuff up to fit your agenda.

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Bridget05 · 29/12/2024 23:20

MarioLink · 29/12/2024 16:41

You are obviously right but unfortunately have just learned like me and others I know that if you notice and comment you will get a mouthful of abuse from the rude parents.

So true, I would hate to be around some of these parents with their kids. If you make a negative remark it's like you are going to commit infanticide. I just want parents to understand that their children may be a joy to them but they should try and let them be a joy to others as well.

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Bridget05 · 29/12/2024 23:22

Porkyporkchop · 29/12/2024 16:45

OP could invite the friend over for coffee at her house and ask her adult dh to turn the TV down .
a noisy cafe is not the place for a heart to heart.

If only. I live in a 2 up 2 down, the husband is disabled and its really a big ask for him to sit upstairs in his own home. That's why we went out.

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Bridget05 · 29/12/2024 23:23

MichaelAndEagle · 29/12/2024 23:11

Would it have been ok with you if the child was glued to an ipad so the grown ups could have their chat? Headphones on of course. Or would that also be a mark of bad parenting?

That would have been perfect.....honestly.

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Bridget05 · 29/12/2024 23:28

Tomatina · 29/12/2024 19:10

Maybe the toddler's family had also had a stressed out day? Perhaps the cafe was the first moment the child wasn't actually crying? I would have just left the cafe and taken the stressed friend to a quiet pub for a stiff whisky.

You know, of all the comments. This is the most helpful. Next time 12.00 straight in for a pinot.....

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Bridget05 · 29/12/2024 23:34

GivingitToGod · 29/12/2024 16:04

This
OP, you seem completely out of sink with babies and toddlers. This isn't a criticism, more a statement of fact

More out of sink with the entitled attitude of so many parents who just don't know how to behave anymore.....not the kids, the parents.

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Katbum · 29/12/2024 23:37

Bridget05 · 29/12/2024 23:34

More out of sink with the entitled attitude of so many parents who just don't know how to behave anymore.....not the kids, the parents.

It's not the OP, it's her husband who's so deaf he can hear the telly....

LarkinAboot · 30/12/2024 00:41

fuckingidiotseverywhere · 29/12/2024 15:09

Eventually I nicely said (yes I can do nice) that while everyone understands children's noise, could they please not add to it by encouraging her.

Sorry, you asked a stranger not to interact with her child in a public cafe? Confused

I mean clearly not everyone does understand children's noise

oneandonlygreg · 30/12/2024 02:44

@BettyBardMacDonald so becuse you have a toddler, you're not allowed in cafes anymore?! 😂

oneandonlygreg · 30/12/2024 02:58

TheThreeCheesesOfTheApocalypse44 · 29/12/2024 16:55

Yanbu. There are loads of soft plays with cafes attached which are a far better place to take a bored toddler than a busy cafe. I hate shit like that it's so entitled.

A parent playing and interacting with their toddler is "entitled"?

Anotherparkingthread · 30/12/2024 03:09

It's performative parenting. I find it crude and embarrassing. I think most parents who do it are doing such a poor job that they feel the need to loudly demonstrate that they have some ability to interact with their own child when in public places. It's like overcompensating. I notice that often nobody wants to be around them either. Sad really.

Iz91 · 30/12/2024 04:02

loropianalover · 29/12/2024 15:08

Is this real? What’s with the ‘okayyyy I had cake as well’, the weird gif, and ‘yes I can do nice’. I’m surprised there was no ‘Dear Reader..’ 😅

Yes people are noisy in cafes, especially children. This has little to do with them being ‘from the big city’. Maybe just crack on instead of convoluting every interaction you have into cheesy diary entry style posts to put online.

Who hurt you?! 😂😭