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AIBU?

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To be mad my folks gatecrashed xmas?

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merrychristonabike · 28/12/2024 07:31

Me DH and our kids went to a hotel for xmas - a tradition we adopted to escape the 'where will you be at xmas?' from mum and dad every year. We've invited them and my in-laws before, but it wasn't fun as my parents were clearly put out they were sharing the time with in-laws.
On arrival on xmas eve, my parents were there to 'surprise' us and we were furious. My husband later asked them why they were there and my dad flipped, telling my husband he'd always had his suspicions about him and generally being a dick. Dad didn't wish DH merry Christmas, ignored him at dinner and left without saying goodbye to either of us,
It ruined the 3 night stay. They didn't bring the kids' gifts - I think so we will still have to go see them and I just can't face it. There's a bit of back story to their behaviour, but it's too long for here other than them being overbearing and intense. And I also just want to know AIBU? And what's your advice yo navigate this?

OP posts:
merrychristonabike · 28/12/2024 11:23

lizzyBennet08 · 28/12/2024 11:03

Op
You're dead right for sticking to your guns. I think when the dust settles you need to tell them that your dh is your priority over them and if they can't be at least civil to him then you will have no relationship with them.

This is the tine to set new boundaries and stick to them. Your dad's behaviour to your dh at Xmas has given you this 'out' . Make sure you take it .

Spoke to parents on phone today. Mum is denying any knowledge of what dad said to DH on xmas eve and dad said DH is in the wrong and how dare he and doesn't respect him etc etc. he is fuming that he is "getting the blame for this".

OP posts:
SophWin · 28/12/2024 11:24

You need to go NC.

You need to have a conversation and hold your own parents to account.

This is the very clear advice always given here when this is the OP’s MiL who has stepped out of line.

( funny that this thread has a much gentler, broader, relaxed approach when it is a female’s parents, rather than the in laws….🤔).

merrychristonabike · 28/12/2024 11:24

GlomOfNit · 28/12/2024 11:07

But they didn't 'gatecrash your Christmas', they surprised you on Christmas Eve at the hotel and it seems from your posts, left later that evening. How precious do you have to be to see this as 'ruining your Christmas' (that, apparently, you'd rather spend in a sterile hotel room than at home if it risks coming into contact with your parents)?

You sound joyless and mean-spirited. We all have relatives who are a bit much to take over Christmas but it clearly means a lot to your parents to see you for at least a few hours and you were rude and miserable.

But you didn't read the post clearly.

OP posts:
MinnieGirl · 28/12/2024 11:25

merrychristonabike · 28/12/2024 08:53

They totally are allowed to - we tried alternating, but my folks were never pleased when it was IL's turn to spend xmas with us.
We tried having it all together, but my parents were rude to ILs.
And last year mum cried every day in the run up to xmas saying it'll be the worst ever because we weren't doing what she wanted.

So they aren’t pleased when you spend alternate years with your in-laws
So you invite them to join both families and they are rude to your in-laws
Your dad doesn’t like your DH and has told you so..l
And your mum cries because she doesn’t get her way…
Why do you want to gave anything to do with these people?

The way they speak about your DH would be a dealbreaker for me. Do you want your children to grow up knowing granny and grandad are nasty to daddy?
And their rudeness to your in-laws is totally unacceptable.

Do you live near to them? Because I would seriously consider going NC for a while. And if you do, I would tell them why.
I would also be very reluctant to expose your children to them they sound really manipulative people and I wouldn’t trust them.

Remember, you chose your DH but you didn’t choose your parents and it’s 6heir behaviour that has forced your decision.

merrychristonabike · 28/12/2024 11:27

RTHJ14 · 28/12/2024 11:17

@merrychristonabike sending much post Xmas sympathies.. I feel your pain.. we were manipulated into a situation to exclude the in-laws this year too!

Honestly unless people have lived with this kind of relationship they just don’t seem to get it..

The best Xmas I’ve had in 20 years was the Covid Christmas where it was just us and the kids and the rules/logistics meant there was little other option.. for those who think I’m truly awful then they haven’t lived with the constant drama and manipulation which starts in about September year after year and causes unnecessary stress and strain for all. For all those who say ‘set the boundaries, alternate.. all the sensible things I would say to other people unfortunately that just doesn’t work.. and I’ve tried!

still.. done for another year.. pass the wine!

Really appreciate this post as you clearly understand. We're the same - it starts in September Xmas Confused

Thanks you for the wishes - and the same to you! It certainly takes the spirit out of christmas.

OP posts:
Oncewornballgown · 28/12/2024 11:39

As a parent myself of adult DC I do think the behaviour of your parents was awful. I cannot imagine myself just turning up in this situation. It isn’t as if you haven’t seen them for years and someone else has arranged it as a joyful surprise for you.
It was effectively a ‘fait accompli’ so that you couldn’t turn their presence down.

Manipulative people often believe that everyone is just like them; I wonder if they think that your DH arranges this getaway to exclude your parents? By turning up they may have thought they were outmanoeuvring him. They sound competitive and jealous anyway. Are they like this with your sister and her family?

If DH ever suggested such a plan to me I would tell him he was bonkers and to let our DC enjoy the Christmas they had planned. Then do something special for ourselves.

Tikityboo · 28/12/2024 11:42

merrychristonabike · 28/12/2024 11:23

Spoke to parents on phone today. Mum is denying any knowledge of what dad said to DH on xmas eve and dad said DH is in the wrong and how dare he and doesn't respect him etc etc. he is fuming that he is "getting the blame for this".

Wow not only is your mum a manipulative emotional blackmailer with her hystrionic floods of tears turned on full flow when she wants to get you to comply with her will....she is also a lying gas-lighter.

Your DF is an agressive, emotionally violent, volatile bully.

Did he erupt with anger at your DH in front of your DCs?

I would go NC and block off all methods of communication for at least 6 months - they need boundaries need boundaries and timely consequences.

They are emotionally dysfunctional and dysregulated and shadow and drain your lives.....they are taking your finite positive energy and headspace which should be directed to your DC and your DH.

Clafoutie · 28/12/2024 11:44

user1492757084 · 28/12/2024 07:42

Given that they surprised you, by then it was too late to be anything but delighted.
I think you were rude to react like you didn't want to see them.
You invited them one Christmas after all.

Maybe they felt like sharing a meal with you, without the in-laws, as a surprise.
You could have secreted the Hotel next Christmas to not have a repeat of this year.

The shock of seeing them made you rude; you should apologise.

I hope you do have a nice present opening.

Maybe send the kids with gifts and food and let them have a relaxed day at Grandparents playing cards and Chess.

Hello to the OP’s parents?! 🙂

Nanny0gg · 28/12/2024 11:45

Babadookinthewardrobe · 28/12/2024 10:18

I agree with this. It wouldn’t have killed you to make them feel welcome instead of the family leaving them alone and then your DH bollocking them for trying to change that. And no, I am not a mum or MIL in this situation, but it does seem unkind and unnecessary.

Have you really not read the OP's posts?

The unkind and selfish ones were the OP's parents

Nanny0gg · 28/12/2024 11:45

MyLadyGreensleeves · 28/12/2024 10:22

But we all see things from our own perspective including you.

You say your mum sees herself as the victim and you as the perpetrator but here you are seeing yourself as the victim and her as the perpetrator.

So, you both see things the exact same way but with the starring roles reversed.

I would also be interested to know what tone and which words your husband used when he asked your dad why he and your mum were at the hotel.

Edited

If it had been me the tone would have been very sharp

Nanny0gg · 28/12/2024 11:46

Runningribbit · 28/12/2024 10:21

It does sound quite full on.

But I’m stuck on you wanting their gifts for the kids but not their company.

She doesn't...

Nanny0gg · 28/12/2024 11:47

WillowTit · 28/12/2024 10:27

@kazzer2867
you laughed at this post
i dont think this is an appropriate use the the Reaction button

It was very appropriate

thescandalwascontained · 28/12/2024 11:47

merrychristonabike · 28/12/2024 10:07

We were supposed to be meeting up with them and DS and her family today and I've said we're now not going.
My mum has since been on the phone wailing that she's devastated and that I've ruined her Christmas and why am I stopping my children from seeing her? She never sees it from any other perspective than her own. She's always the victim and I'm always the perpetrator in her eyes.
They saw us Monday, were at the hotel Tue, Wed and left Thursday. She was then on at me to come to theirs yesterday (didn't) as well as meeting up at a restaurant with DS and fam today. I think that's excessive to want to see us that much over xmas. Meanwhile, we still haven't seen ILs yet.

"Gee, mum. So it's okay for you to rock up uninvited and literally ruin our Christmas and make it all about what you and dad want, but 'I've' ruined your Christmas. I don't think so. We will not be seeing you for the rest of the holidays. You've already crashed and taken over our 3 days of designated family time. We're also going to take some time to think about how this is going to work going forward, because you and dad have made it very clear you don't respect me as an independent adult who is married with a family of her own, that you don't respect boundaries, and that you don't respect anyone's ideas who don't align with your own. It's also clear you don't respect my DH, the man I married. We are a family unit, a team, and you don't respect that. Please don't call or message me or DH. We will reach out when we're ready. If you do, I will block you on X and X, and I'd rather not have to do that."

Something along those lines. In writing. Then mute them.

Stretchanoctave · 28/12/2024 11:48

GlomOfNit · 28/12/2024 11:07

But they didn't 'gatecrash your Christmas', they surprised you on Christmas Eve at the hotel and it seems from your posts, left later that evening. How precious do you have to be to see this as 'ruining your Christmas' (that, apparently, you'd rather spend in a sterile hotel room than at home if it risks coming into contact with your parents)?

You sound joyless and mean-spirited. We all have relatives who are a bit much to take over Christmas but it clearly means a lot to your parents to see you for at least a few hours and you were rude and miserable.

Are we reading the same thread? You seem to be making up your own version of events.

IWillAlwaysBeinaClubWithYouin1973 · 28/12/2024 11:50

Sounds like you'd be better off on the Stately Homes thread rather than AIBU, although to be fair OP I think the majority of people "get it" here. It sounds like you've done everything you can, you've had sit down conversations with them and nothing has changed so it will have to be grey rock, low contact or no contact. Can you do that? Start by not getting the presents?

Hwi · 28/12/2024 11:50

If you are going to accept the inheritance, have the decency to show the minimum grace to your parents.

Nanny0gg · 28/12/2024 11:51

usernother · 28/12/2024 11:04

Good grief. If I was them, I wouldn't want to see you again. Needlessly nasty way to behave

Sounds perfect

Cavello · 28/12/2024 11:52

I have lived your life OP, so you have my sympathies! It's their way or the highway, I ended up going no contact as I couldn't cope with their demanding and manipulative behaviour anymore.

My dad is also an aggressive blow-up angry personality. I did come to realise he was like this due to my mother's incessant whining at him about whatever was bothering her, so he would do things to appease her, which would make whatever situation worse, as it was in direct opposition to my wants. Complete Nightmare! Anyway just a thought for you about your parent's dynamics and your father's actions, as my mother is manipulative and sounds like your mum. Oh and my parents also withheld Christmas presents from their grandchildren as we weren't complying with their demands.

Good luck OP.

IWillAlwaysBeinaClubWithYouin1973 · 28/12/2024 11:52

thescandalwascontained · 28/12/2024 11:47

"Gee, mum. So it's okay for you to rock up uninvited and literally ruin our Christmas and make it all about what you and dad want, but 'I've' ruined your Christmas. I don't think so. We will not be seeing you for the rest of the holidays. You've already crashed and taken over our 3 days of designated family time. We're also going to take some time to think about how this is going to work going forward, because you and dad have made it very clear you don't respect me as an independent adult who is married with a family of her own, that you don't respect boundaries, and that you don't respect anyone's ideas who don't align with your own. It's also clear you don't respect my DH, the man I married. We are a family unit, a team, and you don't respect that. Please don't call or message me or DH. We will reach out when we're ready. If you do, I will block you on X and X, and I'd rather not have to do that."

Something along those lines. In writing. Then mute them.

Edited

Thats a very clear and comprehensive message, I hope the OP feels able to send something like that (and ignore the posters who seem to be responding to a different thread!)

Nanny0gg · 28/12/2024 11:52

GlomOfNit · 28/12/2024 11:07

But they didn't 'gatecrash your Christmas', they surprised you on Christmas Eve at the hotel and it seems from your posts, left later that evening. How precious do you have to be to see this as 'ruining your Christmas' (that, apparently, you'd rather spend in a sterile hotel room than at home if it risks coming into contact with your parents)?

You sound joyless and mean-spirited. We all have relatives who are a bit much to take over Christmas but it clearly means a lot to your parents to see you for at least a few hours and you were rude and miserable.

Did you do Comprehension at school?

BrightonFrock · 28/12/2024 11:54

They didn't need your permission to be at the hotel.

Oh come on. This is ridiculous. I don’t need permission to book a table in the restaurant where my friends are having a romantic dinner, but it would still be fucking weird to do it.

Manxexile · 28/12/2024 11:55

JLou08 · 28/12/2024 07:54

I agree with this. Why spoil the day for everyone, you could have had a nice day together and spoke about it afterwards. It's not surprising your dad was put out if DH had a go at him. They may have honestly thought it would be a nice surprise for you all.

But surprises are never nice and often backfire...

BlueSilverCats · 28/12/2024 11:55

Hwi · 28/12/2024 11:50

If you are going to accept the inheritance, have the decency to show the minimum grace to your parents.

You spelled doormat wrong.

thepariscrimefiles · 28/12/2024 11:55

WillowTit · 28/12/2024 10:27

@kazzer2867
you laughed at this post
i dont think this is an appropriate use the the Reaction button

She obviously thought you were either trying to be funny or that you were being ridiculous.

You are definitely ridiculous in policing people's use of the Reaction button.

Nanny0gg · 28/12/2024 11:56

Jennyathemall · 28/12/2024 11:10

Yes I had the same thought. Wouldn’t everyone be bored out of their brains?

Hotels tend to go all out if they're open at Christmas

They have activities for the children - often including Father Christmas
They have parties and entertainment
Christmas dinner

We are not talking a Premier Inn here

And it may well be in a lovely part of the country with walks and other things nearby

We don't know. But if the OP has done it more than once it can't be that miserable can it?

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