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To use the kids Christmas money to get me through January?

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darkmorning · 27/12/2024 07:15

In a way I don’t know why I’m asking as I don’t have a choice really, but if the overall consensus is absolutely not I suppose I can use a credit card or something.

PIL gave both children £50 for their savings accounts. I’d have to put the cash in my bank account and transfer to their savings accounts: plan is to do this after I’ve been paid in January. Should I? Or is this just horrible?

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SunnyTealLeader · 28/12/2024 09:17

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darkmorning · 28/12/2024 09:17

I’m asking MN about the title of the thread, which isn’t about broader financial advice @SunnyTealLeader Smile

Now go have that mince pie.

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darkmorning · 28/12/2024 09:04

Yes, @BetsyBrowny , you are.

Because I DON’T WANT ANY FINANCIAL ADVICE!

Sorry for shouting but you’ve insisted on giving it even though I’ve said I don’t want it and then got annoyed and frustrated because I’m not taking advice I don’t want in the first place.

I am going to very frustratingly do my own thing, what is right to me according to my own priorities, morals and values and also given that I know my own individual circumstances.

You might not want it, but your circumstances as described here really suggest you need it. Your situation seems pretty fragile and you're now feeling that you need to take Christmas money from your children to cover essentials while having spent non-essential amounts on hosting guests and planning to spend more on travelling. Getting some help and advice about budgeting and managing debt could help you avoid this happening again and improve your family's financial security.

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darkmorning · 28/12/2024 09:20

TakeMeDancing · 28/12/2024 09:17

We get it, OP. You don’t want financial advice. Perhaps someone in the following situation does, however, need financial advice:

  • paying down 3 CCs
  • can’t be trusted not to fritter away easy access savings accounts
  • questions whether they should dip into DC Xmas money to make it to next payday
  • no way to fund “emergency car repairs”
  • not able to “roll with the punches” when there’s an expensive month, eg, Christmas

As I said before, I know.

I am Wrong, all I do is Wrong, all I’m planning to do is Wrong. I really don’t need MN to tell me this.

I do kind of regret starting the thread but all I will say is that I feel comfortable with the choices I’ve made, even if on paper they aren’t towing the line according to what you ‘should’ do, they are the choices I’ve made according to what I feel best about when I look in the mirror if you like.

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LadyKenya · 28/12/2024 09:22

darkmorning · 28/12/2024 09:04

Yes, @BetsyBrowny , you are.

Because I DON’T WANT ANY FINANCIAL ADVICE!

Sorry for shouting but you’ve insisted on giving it even though I’ve said I don’t want it and then got annoyed and frustrated because I’m not taking advice I don’t want in the first place.

I am going to very frustratingly do my own thing, what is right to me according to my own priorities, morals and values and also given that I know my own individual circumstances.

Do that then! why waste time asking for permission from posters?

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darkmorning · 28/12/2024 09:23

Scirocco · 28/12/2024 09:19

You might not want it, but your circumstances as described here really suggest you need it. Your situation seems pretty fragile and you're now feeling that you need to take Christmas money from your children to cover essentials while having spent non-essential amounts on hosting guests and planning to spend more on travelling. Getting some help and advice about budgeting and managing debt could help you avoid this happening again and improve your family's financial security.

Thank you as I do think this is meant kindly but as with most things it’s more complex than that. I have a budget which I was and am strictly adhering to which got knocked off centre by my pay being a bit less than I anticipated: it was only by just over £100 but did mean that I was left with too much month.

I have only been back at work for five months, things are still being paid off, and while I am benefiting from some funded hours two in nursery is still expensive. This will ease somewhat this year and ease even more in two and a half years when both are at school!

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BetsyBrowny · 28/12/2024 09:23

darkmorning · 28/12/2024 09:04

Yes, @BetsyBrowny , you are.

Because I DON’T WANT ANY FINANCIAL ADVICE!

Sorry for shouting but you’ve insisted on giving it even though I’ve said I don’t want it and then got annoyed and frustrated because I’m not taking advice I don’t want in the first place.

I am going to very frustratingly do my own thing, what is right to me according to my own priorities, morals and values and also given that I know my own individual circumstances.

I don't know why you bothered to start a thread.

On the one hand you say you don't want financial advice, on the other you're asking for advice on whether to borrow your kids' money.

You've drip fed pages about your finances and what a mess they are.
How you expect NOT to be given advice is rather odd.

Cant you make simple decision 'according to your morals and values'?

StepAwayFromMyCoffee · 28/12/2024 09:23

Do it OP. We once used DS’s savings to put towards a family holiday 🤷‍♀️ It was £1800 and it would have gone on a credit card otherwise. He had absolutely no idea about the savings and we paid it back over three years.

darkmorning · 28/12/2024 09:24

LadyKenya · 28/12/2024 09:22

Do that then! why waste time asking for permission from posters?

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As I’ve said, reasonably politely I think, I was asking about ‘borrowing’ if you like the kids’ money. I was going to go with the consensus which was to do it but when I actually put the money into my bank account I couldn’t do it and transferred it over. So that’s one of those where it was most sensible to borrow their money but in the end I had to do what I felt most comfortable with.

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darkmorning · 28/12/2024 09:23

Thank you as I do think this is meant kindly but as with most things it’s more complex than that. I have a budget which I was and am strictly adhering to which got knocked off centre by my pay being a bit less than I anticipated: it was only by just over £100 but did mean that I was left with too much month.

I have only been back at work for five months, things are still being paid off, and while I am benefiting from some funded hours two in nursery is still expensive. This will ease somewhat this year and ease even more in two and a half years when both are at school!

I hope things improve soon. It's difficult with little ones and debt and getting back to work.

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darkmorning · 28/12/2024 09:26

BetsyBrowny · 28/12/2024 09:23

I don't know why you bothered to start a thread.

On the one hand you say you don't want financial advice, on the other you're asking for advice on whether to borrow your kids' money.

You've drip fed pages about your finances and what a mess they are.
How you expect NOT to be given advice is rather odd.

Cant you make simple decision 'according to your morals and values'?

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I’ve been trying not to drip feed to be honest but it is difficult as I’ve explained a few times that I don’t want to talk about my finances or marriage but people keep asking and it’s sometimes hard not to give away bits of information. So there is no intent to drip feed.

At no point have I said my finances are a mess - you have deduced that and quite a few other things that aren’t really accurate as well.

I fully expect to be given advice but I’m just pointing out that I’m not going to take it, so giving it and then getting worked up is pointless.

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Purgepossessions2025 · 28/12/2024 09:27

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No if the money is being paid back in a month you don’t need a family discussion over £100.

The OP says she has a plan.

All you troglodytes piling on her and dissecting every part of her life is shocking.

Merry fcking Christmas all you hags. Enjoy your big piles of money and eat 💩.

darkmorning · 28/12/2024 09:27

Scirocco · 28/12/2024 09:25

I hope things improve soon. It's difficult with little ones and debt and getting back to work.

Thank you Flowers

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TakeMeDancing · 28/12/2024 09:29

darkmorning · 28/12/2024 09:20

As I said before, I know.

I am Wrong, all I do is Wrong, all I’m planning to do is Wrong. I really don’t need MN to tell me this.

I do kind of regret starting the thread but all I will say is that I feel comfortable with the choices I’ve made, even if on paper they aren’t towing the line according to what you ‘should’ do, they are the choices I’ve made according to what I feel best about when I look in the mirror if you like.

I’m not here to tell you that you’re wrong or to belittle you. You’ve made some choices, and I would hope that you’d chalk them up as learning experiences, and move on. Create a budget pay down plan. A monthly spending plan. A monthly savings plan (for YOU). An emergency fund for surprise car repairs, etc. A 2025 Christmas plan. Then you wouldn’t be chasing your tail, moving from one financial crisis to the next. You’re not displaying the, “I’ve learned from my choices and it’s time to put some serious plans in place,” attitude.

Blondeshavemorefun · 28/12/2024 09:32

darkmorning · 27/12/2024 22:50

Well, that’s been covered pretty extensively but people are allowed to do things differently and prioritise different things, putting money in my children’s savings accounts absolutely ensures it doesn’t get wasted or frittered, it’s watertight for now at any rate. So i make that choice.

Surely you can see it doesn't make sense

To put away savings but have no money that you think of borrowing off the kids Xmas money or putting on a credit cards

Makes no financial sense

BetsyBrowny · 28/12/2024 09:32

At no point have I said my finances are a mess - you have deduced that and quite a few other things that aren’t really accurate as well.

So does that mean you're still in denial?

Your finances appear to be a mess. If they are not then you've been exaggerating.

No savings (but 'other assets' - maybe you/your H own a property rental/ business assets or something?)
4 credit cards with outstanding debt
Unable to buy fuel and food this month.
Poor credit rating.

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darkmorning · 28/12/2024 09:34

@TakeMeDancing - I already have, I really do have a plan and it has the children’s savings as part of this. Plus (gasp) some fun money too because the children do deserve to do some nice things, although I have cut back where I can to allow me to pay the credit card debt quickly. And thank you.

I don’t think it’s ’one financial crisis to the next’ at all, it’s a unique set of circumstances and I haven’t gone into it here because I don’t want to be identified and because everyone would just tell me what I did was wrong anyway! However, many people with preschool children find things tough financially. It just is. Unless we send them to private school, it’s unlikely we’ll have this much strain on us financially until they’re at university.

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