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friend ‘lodging’ gone sour

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sausagedogmumm · 26/12/2024 23:10

Need some advice/opinions

Myself and my partner let a friend lodge with us a few months back. At the time she had no where to go and we offered to help, as it’s just the 2 of us with 3 bedrooms. The original deal was a stop gap for her whilst she got herself sorted, we agreed she wouldn’t pay rent but instead pay for household bits and bills. This was a short term fix, she has a cat who we originally said would have to stay elsewhere as we have cats and a puppy of our own and our cats are female and not yet spayed and live inside and hers is a male, outside cat. She also informed us all her belongings would be stored elsewhere, it would just be her and the stuff she needed for a short while, whilst she got back on her feet.

She was unable to find anywhere for her cat to stay so we suggested he stayed downstairs in our dinning room which leads out into the garden and would give him access in and out - it’s a big space and cosy and would mean he was completely separate from our pets, we even suggested she could bring him up stairs at night - our spare room is tiny so this seemed a better option for him.

The week she moved in, we were informed she’d lost her job and the storage had fallen through, so suddenly we had her, alllll her stuff and her cat in our tiny spare room (and her belongings filling our garage and dinning room). She then refused to house the cat downstairs and instead insisted we put up a ‘shelf’ on the outside of our mid terrace house so he could jump in and out. We turned this down, so after a lot of trying to change our minds, she settled for him being let out the front door (carried down).

We realised within a month in, none of our ground rules had really been respected, she was regularly letting her cat mix with ours and then randomly dropped on us, her cat has a gum disease which can be transferred through salvia. She did not contribute to bills and would leave all her dirty washing up in the bowl for us to clean. She then began to leave her cat outside all evening and go out, which caused our neighbours to complain he was trying to get into their houses - to which her response was to tell them to ‘f off.’ She spilled some kind of ink on our carpet which she didn’t inform us of and it’s now ground in and the whole thing needs replacing, put posters on our walls and cracked our paintwork.

As you can imagine, we are very frustrated with the situation and became even more so, when she asked to write up a contract claiming she was paying rent so she could claim more benefits. We refused as she was not actually wanting to pay but transfer it to us and then us send it back and we said we cannot since that is fraud and we are in jobs that require a DBS.

This caused her to become even worse with us and she now regularly moans at us for things like letting her cat in when it’s raining or shutting her bedroom window if we’re going out for the evening and she’s also out till late.

We decided to inform her, we would need our spare room back by the end of jan (6 weeks notice), we stated this was mainly due to our cat ripping out her fur due to the stress of the male cat in the house, meaning until he’s gone, our poor girl is on steroids and stress relief which is costing us hundreds. This combined with the fact she leaves heaters and lights on at all times and has 2 hour baths which has caused our bills to triple, has meant we can no longer have her stay.

She has taken this awfully, threatening suicide and claiming she’ll be on the streets. We have suggested again and again, she contacts the council to try and get housing support but she refused to do so until we told her she had 6 weeks.

Was it fair of us to give her a deadline to move out? We genuinely cannot afford it and my partner grew up in a household with a parent who regularly threatened suicide so as you can guess, he is finding it all very hard

OP posts:
Mygosh · 28/12/2024 17:42

Has she made any effort whatsoever to get on the council register?

I feel sorry for her cat. If I was in this position I'd ask her to leave sooner and offer to contribute to the cat being in a cattery (just to feel better about the cat being homeless). Or help to find the cat a new home.

Patienceinshortsupply · 28/12/2024 17:42

We used to be good friends with a couple that we met from school. He was a lovely guy (or so I thought) and when he and his DW split, we were going away on holiday so he offered to dog sit for 2 weeks and his new rental would be ready by the time we got back. 4 months later, he was still here living on our sofa and DH had more than lost his patience over it. He didn't give us a penny towards food or bills, and it was horribly intrusive given we had 3 small kids at the time. In the end, DH rang me from work and said either he goes or I do.

It took another 6 weeks for him to find somewhere, and it absolutely trashed our friendship to be so used. I haven't got close to anyone else since, it's tainted friendship for me for life.

BeAzureAnt · 28/12/2024 17:44

Call the Citizen’s Advice Bureau and get some guidance on how to get this individual out of your home. OP, you’ve been grossly taken advantage of.

WittyBee · 28/12/2024 17:55

I feel really bad for you because this sounds exactly like what happened to me (and my then husband) years ago.
A family member had split with ex and was moving into a really tiny, grotty flat. We were lucky and had a big-ish house and a spare room, so seeing how distressed they were we suggested they move in- they jumped at the chance. We charged them £30/week which included all bills and food so that they would be able to save for a deposit on a nice flat. The idea was they would stay for 6 months. A year later they had rung up huge phone bills calling horoscope lines, wrecked their room and never paid any rent. We asked them to leave and their response was to tell any family member who cared to listen what heartless bastards we were. Never again. Tell her to go.

Floppyelf · 28/12/2024 18:00

2025hello · 26/12/2024 23:23

She saw you as two mugs and now manipulating you more.

She is not a friend. Get rid and change the locks. I'd turf her out now!

This.

JWhipple · 28/12/2024 18:02

She's a nightmare and needs to leave.
If you hadn't taken her in she would've managed so what's changed

YABU for having unspayed cats though.

Gettingbysomehow · 28/12/2024 18:04

How is this sponger a friend????

1931charlie · 28/12/2024 18:11

Not unreasonable where are her family please please get advice how to get rid of her and her stuff are you the only friends she has no matter what just get advice and get rid of all dont leave anything she can come back for. Poor souls awful person Sorry to say change locks once shes gone

JRSKSSBH · 28/12/2024 18:14

Incenseda · 27/12/2024 10:05

Get this user out of your home.
You were targeted.
She never had any intention of contributing.
Involve the police if necessary.
Get her out and block her.
She's a grifter.

This. She is a parasite. Your friendship with her is ruined. Get her out and reevaluate your boundaries/ expectations of friends.

Viviennemary · 28/12/2024 18:15

Dont be swayed by her threats. You have been generous letting her stay at all. She doesn't sound very grateful.

HomeTheatreSystem · 28/12/2024 18:15

Any grief she claims to be suffering is entirely self inflicted. She could have arranged foster care for her cat and asked family to help store her belongings elsewhere. Don't give her another inch: she has abused your kindness and behaved appallingly.

Evan456 · 28/12/2024 18:17

She’s had months to sort herself out and I would not under any circumstances have my animals stressed for the sake of someone else’s

Jl2014 · 28/12/2024 18:22

She has taken advantage of you at every turn. I wouldn’t have given her six weeks. She’d be out now. What a nightmare.

Tikityboo · 28/12/2024 18:24

No need for you to endure another 6 weeks.

She has no intention or expectation of getting a new job or new accomodation sorted in that time scale.

Her situation will be exactly as it is today - she is homeless/jobless/sofa surfing.

She will likely be housed in emergency accomodation by council - she might as well do that now rather than at the end of Jan.

Bite the bullet.

Reclaim your space and your peace.

She might learn something in life from you being assertive - ie dont emotionally hijack and blackmail others with threatening suicide.

Thats emotional abuse and you need to protect yourself from her and she needs to learn that deploying that sick tactic has serious consequences.

A friend of mine asked someone to leave their house. They refused. The next day she calmly called the police to say she had a tresspasser on her premises and they arrived and escorted them out.

Dugongs · 28/12/2024 18:25

Be careful .. if she pays anything towards bills, I think she can make a claim on the house as she's beneficiallly contributed or something ..

From internet..

Beneficial interest is a legal concept that gives someone the right to share in the benefits of a property, even if they are not the legal owner. This can include the right to live in the property, receive a share of rental income, or receive a share of the proceeds when the property is sold.

Purplebunnie · 28/12/2024 18:25

I've not read the full thread but if you give her notice to quit in writing I think (I may be wrong) that if she produces this document at the council it will help her getting accommodation as she will be becoming homeless

You have been more than accommodating, she is a CF and needs to go.

MikeRafone · 28/12/2024 18:25

If she turns up at the council on Monday morning and explains to them she is homeless as you have asked her to leave - then they will help in some format to house her in temporary accommodation - yes it might be a bit grim, yes they will quibble that she is a single woman and could look on spare room dot com for her own shared accommodation

As she is not paying any rent or bills, this makes it more difficult for housing to ask you to take her back or mediate between you using private renting department

in some ways as she is homeless she could get not he councillor housing list in a higher band and should be housed quicker.

You have to take a step back and remember she is an adult and you are not responsible for her. This person is perfectly capable of getting a NMW job and getting herself housed.

What she is doing is trying to tap into your guilt factors by making threats to harm herself. that s unacceptable and you have to switch of from those type of threats and if she makes them again then as pp state - ring police and tell them

Starlightstarbright4 · 28/12/2024 18:27

Your friendship is over regardless .

you absolutely have done the right thing .

Sweetlikechoca · 28/12/2024 18:31

I'd of given her no more than 1 weeks notice. You've been very patient.

rubiconartist · 28/12/2024 18:32

I wouldn't be giving her another month, a week would be overly generous in the circumstances. She can fuck off and present to the council as homeless.

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 28/12/2024 18:34

She has abused your hospitality and trust in the most appalling ways. She also sounds unhinged. I'd want her out tomorrow.

Hillary17 · 28/12/2024 18:37

You have absolutely done the right thing. Arguably I’d have given her less time honestly. Please stick to your guns and mark this experience down as one to learn from. You must ensure she packs and if she doesn’t arrange somewhere to go it really isn’t your problem.

YellowPixie · 28/12/2024 18:38

She has taken this awfully, threatening suicide and claiming she’ll be on the streets. We have suggested again and again, she contacts the council to try and get housing support but she refused to do so until we told her she had 6 weeks.

That sounds like a her problem. You have been more than generous, I'd have given her 6 hours. 6 days at the most. Not 6 weeks. She is not your friend, she is exploiting your kindness and lack of backbone.

DangerousAlchemy · 28/12/2024 18:40

You'll need to change your locks once she's gone. She sounds like a bloody nightmare!

TheTavern · 28/12/2024 18:41

she has put you in an awful position. You gave her a helping hand when she most needed it and look at how she has repaid your kindness. Nobody wants to make someone homeless but she has been so ungrateful-don’t let her guilt trip you. Stand firm, you have done more than most people would do.