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I am about to ruin Christmas again. Why? So sad

151 replies

Teiuu · 24/12/2024 13:59

I have always had severe anxiety. I’m late 30s now. I’m in bed after a huge row with DP which only started due to my stress. I find happy occasions/occasions meant to be happy, very stressful. I don’t know why. It’s like I look for problems. Same with holidays birthdays etc. Why? I’m lying here telling myself I can make a decision right now to stop this but it’s so hard. I feel almost stuck in a pit of anxiety which I know will magically lift when the special occasion is over. Please help. :(

OP posts:
saltinesandcoffeecups · 24/12/2024 22:09

@oakleaffy and @Hesonlyakidharry I asked the same question in the other thread. It’s fascinating! And more than a little hypocritical

TunipTheVegimal24 · 24/12/2024 22:33

If your anxiety is ruining your enjoyment of life, and affecting your relationships, you likely need some meds. Sertraline is life-changing. Hope the rest of your holiday goes smoothly op x

BlackeyedSusan · 24/12/2024 22:59

Autistic? Change of routine?

Zoeloeysky · 24/12/2024 23:04

Your poor partner. Can't imagine having to live like that. No doubt he won't for long.

YourGladSquid · 25/12/2024 01:33

@Hesonlyakidharry it’s called mumsnet, not dadsnet. As such, it’s very obviously focused towards women. Her partner is welcome to post elsewhere about how he feels about all of this, but he’s not OP so jog on.

Enjoy your Christmas instead of trying to stir up a gender war.

Hesonlyakidharry · 25/12/2024 01:34

YourGladSquid · 25/12/2024 01:33

@Hesonlyakidharry it’s called mumsnet, not dadsnet. As such, it’s very obviously focused towards women. Her partner is welcome to post elsewhere about how he feels about all of this, but he’s not OP so jog on.

Enjoy your Christmas instead of trying to stir up a gender war.

Telling someone how sensitive and wonderful they are when they’ve admitted to ruining every special occasion for their partner is neither helpful nor supportive. It’s especially bad when the exact opposite would be said if she were a man.

YourGladSquid · 25/12/2024 08:58

Hesonlyakidharry · 25/12/2024 01:34

Telling someone how sensitive and wonderful they are when they’ve admitted to ruining every special occasion for their partner is neither helpful nor supportive. It’s especially bad when the exact opposite would be said if she were a man.

Again, you’re trying to make this a gender thing. Move on.

ElderLemon · 25/12/2024 09:10

TunipTheVegimal24 · 24/12/2024 22:33

If your anxiety is ruining your enjoyment of life, and affecting your relationships, you likely need some meds. Sertraline is life-changing. Hope the rest of your holiday goes smoothly op x

I agree. Sat here with my mother who is yet again ruining christmas die to her anxiety and depression. Please do something to address this, it is ruinously hard on families.

ThereTheyGo · 25/12/2024 09:51

The question of accountability is an interesting one. @Teiuu I think that you can take from it what is helpful in the moment and work on the rest later. I think that everyone lets other people down. What matters after that is a genuine attempt to repair. If you haven't attempted a repair, where you say sorry and hear how others are feeling, without turning it back into being about you, that's a positive step you can take. As is planning and committing to taking more long term steps to address it (therapy, speak to GP etc.). My Dad was explosive and regularly kicked off when things didn't go to plan as a child. He never apologised in a way that was about us, it was still about him and how terrible he felt. I would have loved him to acknowledge how things were for us.

fedup33 · 25/12/2024 10:19

Good God, the poor OP. Nobody is ruining anything. Each person is responsible for himself or herself.

HereForTheFreeLunch · 25/12/2024 10:28

Apologise to DH and tell him what you have told us?
Now the day is already ruined, it can only get better from here?

ElderLemon · 25/12/2024 10:31

fedup33 · 25/12/2024 10:19

Good God, the poor OP. Nobody is ruining anything. Each person is responsible for himself or herself.

This is not true. My mother is sat on the couch crying, threatening self harm, moaning etc. I should carry on and pull crackers? When you have years of it as a relative it is very wearing indeed

Porcuporpoise · 25/12/2024 11:00

fedup33 · 25/12/2024 10:19

Good God, the poor OP. Nobody is ruining anything. Each person is responsible for himself or herself.

Oh Bullshit. You try enjoying Christmas with your SO picking fights or storming off or sulking.

ZippyDoodle · 25/12/2024 11:35

How are you feeling now?

I can understand this. I get it too but not to your extent. It is difficult to explain.

The way I manage it is not to over complicate things and not agree to too much. Over the last couple of years I've realised that my standards are incredibly high. I'm always striving for perfect when the vast majority of people will be happy with average.

The other day I was feeling overwhelmed so I just told myself I didn't have to do everything. I just needed to concentrate on the most important thing and get that that done. I then needed to do the next most important thing. I actually got quite a bit done in the end.

fedup33 · 25/12/2024 12:42

Porcuporpoise · 25/12/2024 11:00

Oh Bullshit. You try enjoying Christmas with your SO picking fights or storming off or sulking.

Well I have managed? Totally dial down any expectations, don't invite outside family in. If another family member is struggling, leave them to it?

Afraidofhimrightnow · 25/12/2024 12:48

Wonderi · 24/12/2024 14:44

Do you have kids?
(I really hope not).

You know you have a problem and aren’t denying it, which is good.

In future, I would encourage DH to celebrate things like this away from you with his own family or friends.

I would then try and celebrate it together but on a different day.

I assume you’ve had some sort of therapy.
What techniques do they say to use?

If you want this relationship to last then the first thing I would do would be to celebrate separately.

I was thinking that. My husband ruins all special occasions by causing rows in the morning or on our way to birthday parties/Christmas etc no matter what. It's so predictable. The only way I cope is to avoid him as much as possible on these days. I don't think he can help it per se but he could definitely do more to actively work on his generalised stress management techniques. Instead he bottles it all up then explodes.

Having a lovely day today because we celebrated with him yesterday and today are with my family. Have got my children down for a nap and will be having a glass of bubbly soon.

Afraidofhimrightnow · 25/12/2024 12:50

fedup33 · 25/12/2024 12:42

Well I have managed? Totally dial down any expectations, don't invite outside family in. If another family member is struggling, leave them to it?

If it's your spouse do you genuinely feel you enjoy the day if they're huffing in another room and you're alone?! I guess yeah you've managed but low bar!

Wonderi · 25/12/2024 14:47

Afraidofhimrightnow · 25/12/2024 12:48

I was thinking that. My husband ruins all special occasions by causing rows in the morning or on our way to birthday parties/Christmas etc no matter what. It's so predictable. The only way I cope is to avoid him as much as possible on these days. I don't think he can help it per se but he could definitely do more to actively work on his generalised stress management techniques. Instead he bottles it all up then explodes.

Having a lovely day today because we celebrated with him yesterday and today are with my family. Have got my children down for a nap and will be having a glass of bubbly soon.

I’m sorry to hear that you’re going through similar ❤️

I think it’s a great idea to avoid him and celebrate away from him today.
Well done you for limiting the damage to your kids.

Enjoy your glass of bubbly 😁

Wonderi · 25/12/2024 14:53

fedup33 · 25/12/2024 12:42

Well I have managed? Totally dial down any expectations, don't invite outside family in. If another family member is struggling, leave them to it?

What about the children?

Do they have to also have a dialled Xmas with no outside family?

Hesonlyakidharry · 25/12/2024 15:13

YourGladSquid · 25/12/2024 08:58

Again, you’re trying to make this a gender thing. Move on.

It’s always a gender thing on this forum. The double standards are breathtaking and this thread epitomises it. Men are ripped apart when their behaviour ruins special occasions. The OP admits that she ruins every occasion for her poor partner. But…. look at the responses falling over themselves to support her. It’s her partner who needs comforting. And she needs telling, not coddling.

YourGladSquid · 25/12/2024 16:06

Hesonlyakidharry · 25/12/2024 15:13

It’s always a gender thing on this forum. The double standards are breathtaking and this thread epitomises it. Men are ripped apart when their behaviour ruins special occasions. The OP admits that she ruins every occasion for her poor partner. But…. look at the responses falling over themselves to support her. It’s her partner who needs comforting. And she needs telling, not coddling.

The partner isn’t here to be comforted, what do you want? Everyone sending him good vibes?

OP is obviously struggling with her mental health and at least aware of it. She needs to get help and get herself sorted, but you just want her to be bashed lol. Move on.

LittleBigHead · 25/12/2024 16:48

Teiuu · 24/12/2024 14:37

I can’t specify what I’m anxious about as it literally is anything that comes into my head. It could be something from years ago even.

And what are ou doing about this? You need to develop some mental discipline and stop spoiling happy occasions for everyone else. Get therapy. Your attitude is very self-centred.

fedup33 · 25/12/2024 17:42

Wonderi · 25/12/2024 14:53

What about the children?

Do they have to also have a dialled Xmas with no outside family?

Yes, I have a tiny family and they are unpleasant. So yes.

fedup33 · 25/12/2024 17:43

Afraidofhimrightnow · 25/12/2024 12:50

If it's your spouse do you genuinely feel you enjoy the day if they're huffing in another room and you're alone?! I guess yeah you've managed but low bar!

low but tolerable. I read some stuff abotu high bar and it's not pretty.

Ihopeithinkiknow · 25/12/2024 18:51

Hesonlyakidharry · 24/12/2024 18:36

What’s with all the sympathy? Double standards and misandry.

Women post on here every week about their husbands ruining birthdays, anniversaries, special occasions for anyone, Christmas, the list goes on. They behave the way the OP says she behaves and ruin it for everyone… and the responses? Their husbands gets ripped apart on here, and the poster is told to leave him or send him away for the day or take the kids and go to family for the day, leave the husband alone to behave as he pleases without affected anyone else.

But a woman posts, pretty much saying she is the husband who ruins special occasions and you all rally round with sympathy and hugs.

Where is the support for her partner putting up with this? The OP needs to sort herself out or remove herself from any special occasions and allow her partner to choose to spend it with people he can celebrate with.

If a man was posting on here because he knew he was doing this and knew that it was ruining occasions for everyone else and he didn't want to keep ruining it for everyone else then he wouldn't get ripped apart either because it shows some self awareness and that he is after some advice because HE KNOWS HE IS RUINING SPECIAL OCCASIONS FOR EVERYONE ELSE AND HE KNOWS ITS NOT GOOD.
If a man came on here posting about his wife who is ruining everything then he would be told to leave her. It's not double standards