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To Tell SIL To Stop Claiming Things?

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Addyview · 23/12/2024 04:03

I've been with DH a very long time and we have a child together, I get on well with his brother but his brothers wife is another story. She's nice enough most of the time but makes a lot of situations very awkward because of how tight she is. Whenever she comes round if I offer her something to eat she says things like "Yes, can you also wrap some up for me to take home" no matter what it is! There's a million examples I can give but she basically won't pay for anything and is always on the scrounge.
My husbands brother earns a lot of money and so does his wife so its not like they ever struggle, BIL says its just who she is and does try to stop her.
Anyway on Christmas they're coming for dinner but last year was so uncomfortable because she basically laid claim to everything she saw. Every present she saw me open she was asking if she could have it if I didn't like it or when I was fed up of it, she was pointing at things on the dinner table saying she'd take the leftovers home and telling other guests to not eat it all! It really got on my nerves by the end of the day.
She's coming this year and me and DH are both in agreement that we need to say she can't behave like that because it makes everyone else awkward but BIL has asked us to leave it alone and just ignore her because she gets embarrassed. I'm half tempted to just cancel BIL and his wife altogether if I'm honest.
I'm several years into this womans impolite behaviour and it's casting a bit of a dark cloud over Christmas because I'm dreading her making everyone else feel uncomfortable when she starts! So to me my two options are ring her in the morning and tell her to not behave that way or uninvite them both and tell BIL why. I simply cannot have another Christmas day like last years.

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devilspawn · 23/12/2024 10:46

When she brings up the leftovers thing I'd just say, "Oh don't worry, we've already set some aside to pack up for you to take home" and encourage the other people to help themselves, and then afterwards pretend you don't know what happened to it.

For the presents just laugh as if you think she's joking.

Giggorata · 23/12/2024 10:47

CatsndtheBear · 23/12/2024 04:44

I know someone like this.

The ONLY thing that helped was everyone agreed to reply to her with a "NO", said in the kind of tone you would to stop a toddler touching a stove.

Just that one word withs strong eye contact.
No placating or trying to make her less awkward, everyone looked at her when someone said the "NO".

We also once waited for the waiter to come and said to them that she would be paying separately so please create an individual bill for her. She knew then she needed to pay or else she alone would be in trouble.

It sorted the problem!

People like that rely on us trying to make things less awkward.

Instead, everyone needs to come up with a plan and follow through.

This is the perfect way to deal with it.
What do we always say on Mumsnet? NO is a complete sentence!

Toomanyemails · 23/12/2024 10:47

You havent addressed whether you're actually giving a firm but friendly no to the requests for biscuits/leftovers? Sometimes when someone acts so brazenly it catches you off guard but this is a pattern, so prepare your responses. She's so out of the bounds of normality I'd suspect she actually gets a kick out of it (and I'm a very frugal person). Inform your DH so he can also give the responses and back you up.

You: Biscuit?
Her: yes and I'll have some to take home as well, thanks
You: haha, no you won't!/Haha, count yourself lucky I'm offering you one!/err no, those are my biscuits!/Haha, as if!

Her: taking things anyway when you've said no
You: SIL, what are you doing? I invited you round for lunch, not to clear out house out!

Her: no one eat too much of that, I'm going to take some home
You: err no you won't! Any leftovers are earmarked for our lunch tomorrow - but please, everyone take as much as you want!

As it's happened so many times you can address it upfront too - and by you, I mean DH.

ElsieMc · 23/12/2024 10:48

You need to disinvite op. When did they last invite you for a lovely meal as their treat?

The alternative is a fall out on Christmas day, spoiling your day, hard work and others' day. She's had chances and not improved.

It is already stressing you out and you will be on edge waiting for her to be her.

@schleep message is a good one if you still insist on inviting super scrounger

I have some experience from my dd1 who is a less extreme version. She arrives with her brood empty handed and hungover. Wants the leftover meat for her picnic etc. She sadly has even tried to take a rug she liked and my perfume. She just stares at me til I give in - everyone can feel the tension. She is not here this year as she has another invite...

JFDIYOLO · 23/12/2024 10:51

This is really on your husband to sort out with his family. A frank word with his brother on whether everything is really ok, and he tells him to speak to his wife about her behaviour.

Puddingrun · 23/12/2024 10:51

I think I would tell her that any christmas gifts that you don't like will go to a charity shop to help the less fortunate and then go on about the charity and how much good it will do.
As for the food, I would just say no and then ask do you not get fed at home? If she persists tell her it is rude

BrightonFrock · 23/12/2024 10:53

Buy her a huge pack of Tupperware for Christmas. She’ll get all excited… then when it comes to hometime, tell her you’ve got nothing left over to put in them for her, but that she can use them at the next house she pops into on the scrounge.

MichaelandKirk · 23/12/2024 10:54

She sounds nuts! You 100% have to speak to her in advance about this. Tell her to stop telling people to eat less, give her unwanted presents (as if anyone would do this whilst the gift giver is in the room!).

I strongly suspect she believes its just 'her' and her little ways and you all have to suck it up. In the meantime she gets her own way.

Of course you could say nothing and then strongly call her out in front of everyone. She clearly isnt embarassed at all.

Me - well I would speak to her in advance and do get your partner to back you up. No caving in especially if she turns on the tears (yes, I have a relative who does this when she doesnt get her own way but even she isnt THIS bad!)

Mrswhatsit40 · 23/12/2024 10:55

Why on earth did you invite her again? She's batshit.

Isatis · 23/12/2024 10:58

Prepare a couple of signs in advance (having explained the situation beforehand to guests). One says "No, you can't have any of my presents, SIL" and the other says "No, you can't take any leftovers home, SIL". Then all concerned can silently point to whichever one applies if she still tries to scrounge.

Enterthedragonqueen · 23/12/2024 10:59

I'd have fun with this, ask how things are going financially the next time requests leftovers. Just say that you understand that it's a tough economic climate. Say you should have realised that they were struggling financially when she's always asking for people's Christmas gifts & leftover food. All asked innocently of course.....

AngryBookworm · 23/12/2024 11:00

What @Toomanyemails said. If you've been acquiescing to ANY of this, while understandable in the moment (I think I'd be too shocked and just say yes on autopilot!) you've been rewarding her behaviour. It's completely understandable but now you know, time to set a hard boundary. No leftovers, no stealing extra presents from other people (WTF).

I'd also lean into the embarrassment that your BIL is so afraid of - if it's not an incentive for her to pipe down it'll be an incentive for him to ask her to. When she asks for leftovers tell her she's welcome to cook and host everyone if she wants leftovers, call her Ebenezer, just raise a disbelieving eyebrow, etc. And don't give in. Laugh along with everyone else so she knows they all think she's weird - and don't be afraid to say, "you keep doing this. You do know I'll have to ask you to leave if you don't stop? It's really unpleasant and weird" . Essentially make it their problem. You can call (or your DH can call his brother) ahead and let them know that behaviour won't be tolerated, so she's been warned.

godmum56 · 23/12/2024 11:02

Addyview · 23/12/2024 04:22

It's been playing on my mind since DH asked his brother over again this Christmas last month.
Her behaviour is strange but it's more that she's made it her personality now. She will gladly sit and brag that she gets all she can for free out of life and doesn't like paying for things. Whenever we've approached it in the past like when we told her we didn't like that she refused to pay her share on a family meal out she basically told us she would rather we didn't invite her than expect her to fork out any money for things she's not interested in.

Fine.Don't invite her

Enterthedragonqueen · 23/12/2024 11:03

Keep asking if they're struggling financially, your bil won't like this and hopefully will ask his wife to stop begging.

Ask her directly 'are you broke because you keep begging for leftovers'.

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 23/12/2024 11:03

When I read your original post I had in mind an older lady, bit set in her ways. And I’m not stereotyping, I am in my 50’s.
She’s in her 20’s!!!! She’s clearly never gone without, but I think her behaviour then suggests she has real mental health issues.
Perhaps she has worked out that all of this brings her attention. It may not be positive attention, but it’s attention.
OP has lost a night’s sleep over it. And that’s just a small part of it.
How does her own husband cope with it? Colleagues? If she has children is she going to grab from them?
I would not invite then next year unless she gets some help. Because she clearly needs it. I’m not excusing her, but if she’s like this in her 20’s it will only get worse.

godmum56 · 23/12/2024 11:04

ElsieMc · 23/12/2024 10:48

You need to disinvite op. When did they last invite you for a lovely meal as their treat?

The alternative is a fall out on Christmas day, spoiling your day, hard work and others' day. She's had chances and not improved.

It is already stressing you out and you will be on edge waiting for her to be her.

@schleep message is a good one if you still insist on inviting super scrounger

I have some experience from my dd1 who is a less extreme version. She arrives with her brood empty handed and hungover. Wants the leftover meat for her picnic etc. She sadly has even tried to take a rug she liked and my perfume. She just stares at me til I give in - everyone can feel the tension. She is not here this year as she has another invite...

you give in????? you actually give in?????

AppleDumplings · 23/12/2024 11:04

@CatsndtheBear nailed it with their answer.

wizzywig · 23/12/2024 11:05

Does she hoard?

forrestgreen · 23/12/2024 11:05

I'd also address this with Dh. Where's his voice when she's after your presents and food.
He invited them so each and every time he can address it.

asthecrowdwaschantingmore · 23/12/2024 11:08

Do not let your BIL use the 'she'll be embarrassed' card. It certainly doesn't trump you having to put up with her grabby rudeness at your literal expense. And it's embarrassing for you and your guests!

I'd just say she can't come unless BIL talks to her, and if she can't agree to not ask for things or 'reserve' things or similar behaviour, she can't come. And if she does it anyway, you tell her you'd like her to leave as she's making you uncomfortable with her mooching again.

AllstarFacilier · 23/12/2024 11:09

I think if she asked for leftovers I’d say that we were planning to have them later on, but if they’re desperately financially struggling then you may be able to put something together. Then at least it will shame her DH enough for people to think they’re struggling.

MadnessIsMyMiddleName · 23/12/2024 11:14

At this stage OP, I wouldn't even give them the choice, you KNOW that he won't be able to stop her asking for stuff, if they do come, and it will be YOU that suffers, just cancel the invitation and tell them both why. Then follow up with a letter telling them that unless she's prepared to act like a normal human being there will be no further invitations for either of them. Someone needs to make it clear that this behaviour is NOT acceptable, so after all the worry you've put yourself through, why not make it you, at least then you can feel you've done everything that you can. As a matter of interest, why does your DH keep inviting them when presumably he must know how her behaviour upsets you, and everyone else?

mewkins · 23/12/2024 11:17

Giggorata · 23/12/2024 10:47

This is the perfect way to deal with it.
What do we always say on Mumsnet? NO is a complete sentence!

Agreed. A firm no repeatedly. If she keeps doing it take her aside and ask her to stop as it is spoiling the day. I wouldn't laugh or joke along with her. She needs to behave herself.

FluDog · 23/12/2024 11:18

JustJoinedRightNow · 23/12/2024 04:11

Next time she tells people not to eat certain foods because she wants to take the leftovers home just laugh and go "as if!! Eat as much as you like everyone" and keep brushing her off.
Just because she claims things doesn't mean you all have to let her.
If she points out a present of yours she likes, and asks if she can have it, just reply "I literally unwrapped it this morning. No you can't have it" and repeat

Yeah I'd take this approach. Sounds like the SiL has been in the picture long enough for pleasantries to informal enough.

"Can I wrap this up to take home?" Could be dismissed with "Don't you have food at home?" "That present would be more use to me" - "Didn't you get your own presents?"

Then either carry on with previous conversation / activity or, to make things more awkward for her, just pause and stare at her.

BarMonaco · 23/12/2024 11:26

I saw mentions of Queen Mary on this thread and googled. I never knew she was such a grabby brat!

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