Are there any conspiracy theories you believe in?

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I find conspiracy theories really interesting. I have never ‘believed’ any of them, more enjoy discussing them and how likely it seems that they could be true. I also think it’s more far fetched to believe that everything we have ever been told or ever will be told is the whole truth.

Are there any CTs you believe in? Lead me down a rabbit hole please!

Well, the HRC bleached emails confirmed that they were ordering ‘pizza’ and ‘hotdogs’ to the WH.
Just read the emails and you can see it all there right in front of you.

We’ve got the technology, but who wants to spend the money? We have enough problems managing our future survival on our “little blue dot”.

One of the Diddy accusers alleges that she was trafficked by social services and taken to a Diddy freak off.

I'd believe this. I've noticed a similar thing among orthodontists. I think a lot of these groups are making more and more marginal cases problematic, and are using alarming language, to get more kids in braces.

Similarly veterinarians offices pushing for tests that aren't even standard for humans. That's a real conspiracy driven by a lot of these large corporations buying up vets offices.

I remember reading that tens of thousands of kids in the UK didn’t return to school after Covid. Is anyone following up on these missing kids?

Ah yes Pizzagate.
Ended with an armes intruder "trying to free the children kept in the basement"
Except there wasn't one.
Honestly if Alex Jones is involved in any way chances of it being true are miniscule.

He has embarrassed himself there.

There's an urban myth, resulting from some people misunderstanding the Ceremony of the Peal Sword, that the monarch needs permission to enter the City of London. Its not true, though. Feel very free to look it up.

He doesn't explain it and he's wrong. The City of London is a local authority. It has special privileges and a peculiar structure, which are holdovers from the 17th century (iirc) when all local authorities were like this but were reformed. It is part of the UK.

Washington DC isn't a separate country from the US, either. It's also a local authority with special privileges - in American terms, it's like a state (not a country). Other multi-state countries have similar setups for their administrative capitals.

Vatican I think may be a country; not sure and can't be bothered to look it up. There are some other city-states in Italy that are semi-independent but not actually countries and, for all I know, this might be true in many countries. One famously independent city-state is Monaco

Most of these complications arise from old history, when Europe was a jumble of city-states all trying to take each other over. As they gradually coalesced into countries, some insisted on special provisions. I'm sure this stuff gives conspiracy theorists a hard-on, as few of their viewers will understand it and the various special provisions can easily be made to look underhand.

Yes my DH got sold glasses he did not really need. I just ask if any issue with visions means I legally need glasses for driving. If they say no, you know any issue is extremely minor. Specsavers are the worst. They said I had a minor vision defect and showed me the difference with and without glasses. I was struggling to see any difference.

I too have noticed vets recommending treatment beyond that given to humans. For example, suspected scabies wanting to take skin scrapings to examine them. Whereas in humans we treat scabies with cream. Only if it shows no sign of clearing up, might a Dr take skin scrapings in case it is something else.

That shot has been made by dozens of people, it isn't remotely difficult, and Oswald was a marine sharpshooter. Rogan did it with a crossbow. R Lee Ermey took a group of half a dozen marines that all made the shot with the same rifle. It really isn't difficult.

Good question. The government's on it. There are dozens of documents describing the problems with different kinds of 'missing' children - home schooled & registered, but not checked on, home schooled not registered, excluded from school and not returned, traveller children, and there's more ... I was reading about this a few weeks ago.

Government wants to build a register of all these 'absent' kids and implement a system of welfare checks. It's obviously a complicated task.

This is a document on children missing education (PDF) August 2024.

for anyone who still thinks Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone, check out the following three interesting people=
Richard Case Nagell
Dorothy Killgalen
Dino Bruglioni.

here I go:

Diana Ross is the bio mom of Michael Jackson. Meghan Markle used a surrogate for her second child, if not her first. Anita Blanchard and Martin Nesbitt are the bio parents of the Obama girls. Natalie Portman had a baby with Director Darren Aronofsky that ended his marriage to Rachel Weiz. Naomi Campbell is heavily involved in the trafficking of girls to high net worth individuals. US Supreme Court justice scalia died in Texas after a weekend at rent boy ranch.

these are just the ones off the top of my head :) deep dive on your own though.

Conspiracy theory is a term invented by the cia to mock critical thinking.

It worked.
Some things are clearly batshit (flat earth, elvis alive etc)
But other things should have been seriously investigated by serious newspapers but they are too scared of looking
"Conspiracy theorists"

Critical
Thinking is massively important & there is a middle distance between blindly & blithely accepting the establishment given tales & being a tinfoil hatted person.

The death of jfk. So so so many Americans still think he was killed by Lee Harvey Oswald acting alone as an example.
More recently - Diana

Anita Blanchard and Martin Nesbitt are the bio parents of the Obama girls.

You don’t really believe that?

You are incorrect. It is fully possible (extremely easy, actually) to fact check this.

https://www.reuters.com/article/world/fact-check-the-world-economic-forum-does-not-have-a-stated-goal-to-have-people-idUSKBN2AP2SP/

Conspiracy theory is a term invented by the cia to mock critical thinking.
That the CIA invented or popularized the term is, in itself, a conspiracy theory.

God, this thread is good! 😂 🍿

OMG you all are loopy.

As for believing the govt can organise anything and do it in secret - come on! You might as well believe that Prince Philip was king of the lizards.

Those hateful people who think that Sandy Hook or the Manchester Arena bombing didn’t happen - what poisonous fools they are.

How exactly are you 'collecting data for yourself'? Watching lots of YouTube videos by 'original thinkers' is not collecting data any more than reading newspapers is.

The only one of those I credit is the Aronofsky one. I lurk on datalounge sometimes, & while they can spin outrageously tall tales, they also often do have industry info.

Yep, just checked this - I thought it was Karl Popper (1940s, same decade the CIA was established) but the first popular use of 'conspiracy theory' was actually in 1881 after President Garfield was assassinated! He died of sepsis resulting from unhygienic medical treatment of his gunshot wound, but alternative theories caught the public imagination - leading the press to lament the proliferation of conspiracy theories.

... So, if you like, the doctors killed Garfield by thinking hygiene was a conspiracy theory, then the public theorised that the doctors were victims of a conspiracy to cover up the real cause of death. (The entertaining madman who shot him was executed anyway, though.)

As an aside, the American medical profession was still scoffing at new-fangled ideas about 'microbes' and hygiene in 1918, helping the Spanish Flu to spread rapidly until mayors and councillors overruled the doctors 🤦‍♀️

Of course it would be. If a plane had lost control, in that scenario, coming into a target then it would be shot down.

What I think is bonkers is that many people who believe in big Pharma/anti vax or climate change deniers are also Trump supporters.

Trump who genuinely IS bending the law, amassing billionaires like Musk, donating millions to Nigel Farage.

So this is genuine corruption, but is ignored in favour of conspiracy?

But...

It's not been proved.
It's not been proved.
It's not been proved.

It's not received wisdom. It's a theory.

Does that not matter to you at all?