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Are there any conspiracy theories you believe in?

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Errors · 22/12/2024 18:07

Inspired by another thread

I find conspiracy theories really interesting. I have never ‘believed’ any of them, more enjoy discussing them and how likely it seems that they could be true. I also think it’s more far fetched to believe that everything we have ever been told or ever will be told is the whole truth.

Are there any CTs you believe in? Lead me down a rabbit hole please!

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BoundaryGirl3939 · 22/12/2024 22:28

It's more dangerous to be in a hospital than to stay away from it. Hospitals are death camps.

Tangfastic71 · 22/12/2024 22:28

BoundaryGirl3939 · 22/12/2024 22:23

Not sure about that. Perhaps i do.

But the moon landing, exiting a spaceship, bouncing on gravity, travelling back to earth...I don't believe that. So I've lost trust and confidence in them.

For goodness sake don’t go outside on a dark night and look up. Because then you would actually be able to see them clearly with your own naked eyes.

Moonfasa100 · 22/12/2024 22:29

Doctors and pharmacies aren't there to help you.

They actually want to keep you sick. So they can sell you more drugs

fashionqueen0123 · 22/12/2024 22:30

If the moon landing wasn’t real then someone by now out of the hundreds of people involved would have talked.

StarDolphins · 22/12/2024 22:31

Verbena17 · 22/12/2024 22:22

I’ve been on MN since 2003 😂. But for me, the science is never settled. I love researching stuff and never rule out anything - why should we? There’s nothing wrong with always asking questions and using our own discernment to work out stuff.

In answer to your question, I was giving you a few real life examples of how easily the government (WEF) could erode society piece by piece - almost so covertly, that nobody notices until it’s too late.

Telling people they can’t go into a pub unless they have been vaccinated for example. In China, the social credit system means that if your social credit score isn’t ‘green’ you aren’t allowed to take certain trains.

All you need is for the government/WEF to insist on no more cash and voila, they have complete control.

It’s not a huge conspiracy - this is what the WEF really stated would happen.
The Georgia Guidestones (before they were luckily blown up), stated that earth’s population should be maintained at 500,000,000. Elites really wanted to keep earth’s population at that level. How exactly were they going to achieve that?

All you have to do is look at just how quickly and easily the majority of the western world voluntarily gave up their freedoms in 2020….without querying it or speaking up. Fortunately though, lots of us DID speak up and that’s why governments eventually had to listen.

Ok, apologies! You’ve been here longer than me then so I guess you’re not from a conspiracy theory convert group🤣

I get what you’re saying about everyone easily giving up their freedom in covid times. However, it’s quite unbelievable to me that someone could boldly state that we will own nothing & my home will be taken from
me & I will rent it back. That’s just not going to happen. Yes you might need to be vaccinated to go places but there will be lots of other places that don’t enforce this so it’s not as theatrical & alarmist as my conspiracy theorist ex would have me believe.

Tangfastic71 · 22/12/2024 22:32

Verbena17 · 22/12/2024 22:28

The psychology of those people who don’t question a single thing, ever, at all is extremely interesting.

Govt - you must get vaccinated
Majority of Public - oh okay
’Conspiracy theorists’ - pls tell us what’s in the vaccine
Govt - No
Majority of Public - oh ok, no problem, we’ll take it anyway
‘conspiracy theorists’ - we’ll choose not to then as we can’t see what’s being pumped into our bodies if you don’t show us the insert slips at the vaxx clinics.
Majority of Public - The govt wouldn’t lie to us about vaccines
Pfizer - nope - we are going to ban the Public from seeing the trial data for 75 years

But we do question…and read and come to a balanced opinion and act on it. Just because our decision to go ahead and vaccinate was different to your decision to not, does not mean we blindly did as we were told.

FeegleFrenzy · 22/12/2024 22:32

Errors · 22/12/2024 19:19

What’s this all about then?

So there has been a pentagon hearing into ufo sightings with lots of military personnel giving evidence both saying they’ve seen stuff but also that there is a big cover up going on and that the USA govt knows about it. So military whistleblowers.

Radishknot · 22/12/2024 22:33

I don’t believe in conspiracy theories like lizard people etc but I do think we aren’t always told the full truth about things.

BoundaryGirl3939 · 22/12/2024 22:33

Tangfastic71 · 22/12/2024 22:28

For goodness sake don’t go outside on a dark night and look up. Because then you would actually be able to see them clearly with your own naked eyes.

I never said I don't believe in satellites. But a satellite is not in space. If I can see it with my own naked eye, it's not too that far away from me in reality. An impressive feat but I still don't believe that spaceships can land on another planet, walk around, and travel back home. No, not buying it.

samarrange · 22/12/2024 22:33

Tangfastic71 · 22/12/2024 22:23

Oh just stop it. That’s not what the context meant at all and you know it. Either you are pointlessly goading or just stupid

This is what it's like dealing with a certain set of the conspiracy people. It's all very elusive, you just have to trust them. Relatedly, I see that a couple of posts earlier we now have the claim that the WEF stuff was all true but it's been stopped because of the power of the people, hooray. Sadly no minutes were taken, so we'll just have to trust them that something huge was really really going to happen.

When such people start to get you down, I recommend this quote, from Sartre's "Anti-semite and Jew". Just replace "Anti-semite" with the proponent of whatever outlandish claim you are dealing with (although of course quite a lot of conspiracies directly involve Jews, and a lot of conspiracy theorists have some quite colourful votes about followers of at least two of the Abrahamic faiths):

"Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past."

SuperStarAnise · 22/12/2024 22:34

Michael Jackson is still alive, Covid outbreak was via a lab, Princess Diana’s death inside job, Taylor Swift is a clone/ robot! 😆

ThisCosyAquaHiker · 22/12/2024 22:34

BoundaryGirl3939 · 22/12/2024 22:23

Not sure about that. Perhaps i do.

But the moon landing, exiting a spaceship, bouncing on gravity, travelling back to earth...I don't believe that. So I've lost trust and confidence in them.

Okay, so if, on reflection, you come to the conclusion that "of course satellites have been launched into space" - why would you find it so hard to believe that a manned craft can also be?

I can understand people having initial skepticism about the first moon landing, because there would be a political motive for faking it, but why would countries around the world continue to spend billions and billions on further launches (several of which have resulted in fatalities), right up until the present day?

samarrange · 22/12/2024 22:35

BoundaryGirl3939 · 22/12/2024 22:33

I never said I don't believe in satellites. But a satellite is not in space. If I can see it with my own naked eye, it's not too that far away from me in reality. An impressive feat but I still don't believe that spaceships can land on another planet, walk around, and travel back home. No, not buying it.

a satellite is not in space

What? Where do you think it is?

FeegleFrenzy · 22/12/2024 22:37

Mountainhowl · 22/12/2024 22:12

Why does everyone say we never went back to the moon? There were 11 more moon landings after the first one!

It's incredibly expensive, we got what we wanted from going the times that we did, there hasn't been enough political will to do it again at such a cost.

There are mirrors and other artifacts that we put on the moon, we brought moon rocks back to earth. We definately went, the Russians would have disproved it years ago if it wasn't true

Yeah, USA were spending 4% of their annual GDP every year on the space programme. They couldn’t afford to keep it up. Once they’d beaten the Russians to the moon the main incentive was gone.

Samandytimlucypeterolivia · 22/12/2024 22:37

I’m not a conspiracy theorist, I love reading about and discussing them, I bought DS a conspiracy theory book last year and he loved it, took it to school and his best friend really enjoyed it too. I do believe that some stuff people think is far fetched, nothing is out of the realm of reality. 90% of conspiracy theory’s are not impossible…

Radishknot · 22/12/2024 22:39

And there are certainly cover ups eg Hillsborough, collusion of the army in NI.

Blarn · 22/12/2024 22:39

I think there is a partial conspiracy to JFK's assassination. Lee Harvey Oswald was the most high profile person in custody and they walk him out and he happens to get shot? The suggestions of mob links are entirely plausible.

Verbena17 · 22/12/2024 22:39

Tangfastic71 · 22/12/2024 22:32

But we do question…and read and come to a balanced opinion and act on it. Just because our decision to go ahead and vaccinate was different to your decision to not, does not mean we blindly did as we were told.

I’m not talking about the people who did their research (like you) and chose to have them anyway. I’m on about the vast majority who did zero research and yes - blindly just took it. And allowed their children to as well.

The vast majority do not, for example, realise that there was no way they could have given ‘fully informed consent’, because vaccination centres in the UK did not give the patient vaccine insert to people when they arrived.

Tangfastic71 · 22/12/2024 22:39

FeegleFrenzy · 22/12/2024 22:32

So there has been a pentagon hearing into ufo sightings with lots of military personnel giving evidence both saying they’ve seen stuff but also that there is a big cover up going on and that the USA govt knows about it. So military whistleblowers.

This is about drones. UFO’s doesn’t mean aliens …it just means unidentified flying object. Obviously.

FeegleFrenzy · 22/12/2024 22:40

samarrange · 22/12/2024 22:35

a satellite is not in space

What? Where do you think it is?

It is in space but what the previous poster probably meant was that a satellite is in earth’s orbit. No person has left the earth’s orbit since the Apollo 17 mission in 1972. Satellites haven’t left earth’s orbit.

Verbena17 · 22/12/2024 22:42

FeegleFrenzy · 22/12/2024 22:37

Yeah, USA were spending 4% of their annual GDP every year on the space programme. They couldn’t afford to keep it up. Once they’d beaten the Russians to the moon the main incentive was gone.

Don Pettit says we don’t have the technology anymore 😂😂😂

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ThisCosyAquaHiker · 22/12/2024 22:42

BoundaryGirl3939 · 22/12/2024 22:33

I never said I don't believe in satellites. But a satellite is not in space. If I can see it with my own naked eye, it's not too that far away from me in reality. An impressive feat but I still don't believe that spaceships can land on another planet, walk around, and travel back home. No, not buying it.

Of course satellites are in space.

If I can see it with my own naked eye, it's not too that far away from me in reality
...surely you've seen the moon?

And nobody has ever claimed to have landed on another planet and come back home. For a return journey, the moon is as far as we've got.

Tangfastic71 · 22/12/2024 22:43

Verbena17 · 22/12/2024 22:39

I’m not talking about the people who did their research (like you) and chose to have them anyway. I’m on about the vast majority who did zero research and yes - blindly just took it. And allowed their children to as well.

The vast majority do not, for example, realise that there was no way they could have given ‘fully informed consent’, because vaccination centres in the UK did not give the patient vaccine insert to people when they arrived.

Well in my professional, social and family circle - I don’t know a single person who didn’t research thoroughly, understand the risks of a new vaccine, and decide on balance that it was a risk worth taking (bar 1 person who did not).
I think you do the vast majority a disservice

FeegleFrenzy · 22/12/2024 22:43

Tangfastic71 · 22/12/2024 22:39

This is about drones. UFO’s doesn’t mean aliens …it just means unidentified flying object. Obviously.

Nope. The recent media stuff has been about drones. I’m talking about the big hearing earlier this year. Which was nothing to do with drones but ufos, or UAP as they actually refer to them as now. I’m aware it may well not be aliens.

Deadlykitten · 22/12/2024 22:43

StarDolphins · 22/12/2024 22:20

Thank you, please link if you can find. I will be interested to read it.

https://medium.com/world-economic-forum/welcome-to-2030-i-own-nothing-have-no-privacy-and-life-has-never-been-better-ee2eed62f710

this is the article, as a previous poster pointed out, this was taken down and revised.

Honestly, it’s a dull point tbh, my point I guess is that people tend to reel off a bunch of stuff like you did and as a whole it seems crazy, but actually breaking it down he didn’t just randomly make it up, from what you’re saying he’s taken it out of context but the WEF agenda that they’ve set is an interesting one and does make you question things.

The point about MSM brain washing people is extreme but spending any time consuming information outside of MSM does show you what is left out of their reporting and i’ve noticed personally (you may think differently if you ever do what i’m saying) that the language they use is very bias.

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