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Are there any conspiracy theories you believe in?

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Errors · 22/12/2024 18:07

Inspired by another thread

I find conspiracy theories really interesting. I have never ‘believed’ any of them, more enjoy discussing them and how likely it seems that they could be true. I also think it’s more far fetched to believe that everything we have ever been told or ever will be told is the whole truth.

Are there any CTs you believe in? Lead me down a rabbit hole please!

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BoundaryGirl3939 · 22/12/2024 22:13

NASA = Not A Space Agengy

All space footage is fake. The moon landing footage was filmed on a set. Just like a regular side-effects film.

SerafinasGoose · 22/12/2024 22:13

Corinthiana · 22/12/2024 19:48

She wasn't wearing a seatbelt. If she'd put it on, she would have survived. Her decision.

What possible threat could this woman be?

She'd already been very effectively neutralized. When it comes to women, it's easy. Paint them as at best pathological liars, exhibitionists or neurotics and at worst paranoid or mad. You then remove their voice as not a word they say is ever taken seriously.

It's the age-old way of silencing women who have become superfluous or a liability, or simply unwanted, as evidenced by the many women in history whose husbands had them shut away in mental asylums. It's recently come to light that Charles Dickens tried to do this to his long-suffering wife - which given the way he allegedly treated her doesn't exactly surprise me.

Diana was a case in point. So, more recently, was Charlene of Monaco. Royalty PR is frighteningly effective - take them on and you lose, as others have found out before Diana and after. Of course, not one single, solitary word that comes out of the mouth of Diana's younger son's spouse could possibly be the truth, could it? Windsor-PR and their media sidekicks have done far too great a job at discrediting her - so much so that it seems to occur to few people that she might have had even one legitimate complaint. Simple common sense should dictate that life is rarely that simple or one-sided.

If anything's a conspiracy 'theory' surrounding Diana, it's this. Why go to that trouble and then bother to kill her? No one gains. Had she lived, she'd doubtless simply have become a bit of an embarrassment like Fergie. And it isn't strictly a conspiracy - merely a symptom of a tediously, predictably misogynist society which is far more happy to believe women are crazy fantasists than that they might - shock horror - be victims of abuse, smear campaigns or the usual systemic class and gender inequalities.

Plus sa change ...

ThisCosyAquaHiker · 22/12/2024 22:14

OhMargaret · 22/12/2024 22:01

Both can be true @ThisCosyAquaHiker. The fossil fuel giants discredit climate change because they want to profit as much as possible from the status quo. By investing in alternative energy, they control the competition and also the timeline of any changes. Shell invested $8 billion in renewables in 2022, it's one of the world's leading investors in the sector and is continuing with this strategy.

https://www.shell.com/news-and-insights/newsroom/news-and-media-releases/2024/shell-publishes-energy-transition-strategy-2024.html#:~:text=We%20will%20continue%20to%20transparently,targets%20and%20ambitions%20every%20year.&text=We%20are%20investing%20$10%2D15,and%20growing%20low%2Dcarbon%20solutions.&text=Customer%20emissions%20from%20the%20use%20of%20our%20oil%20products%20(Scope,million%20tonnes%20CO2e%20in%202021.

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I know that energy companies are starting to invest in green technologies but the lobbying spend on resisting or slowing the change from fossil fuels to green energies massively outstrips the spend on lobbying to promote green technology - both today and over the last few decades, consistently.

So when someone, like the PP, says "follow the money" then it makes zero sense, whatsoever, to think that the climate crisis is a big-money backed scam.

Even if you ignore the science and take a strictly "follow the money" approach, the obvious conclusion is that man-made climate change is real.

Garlicwest · 22/12/2024 22:14

Pllystyrene · 22/12/2024 18:56

The moon landing, none of the maths adds up and we really didn't have that level of technology at the time.

Have you not seen Hidden Figures? It's a great watch! Such a pity that you belittle the work of these brilliant women who were the technology of the time.

Deadlykitten · 22/12/2024 22:15

StarDolphins · 22/12/2024 22:03

That my ex is correct in saying we’ll own nothing. YOU said he isn’t making this up. I think he is.

I said he isn’t making it up out of thin air, that it’s from an article back in 2016. Which it is.

I can link the article but it seems a bit silly that you’d spend the time reading it now when that’s probably exactly what your ex was trying to suggest in the first place.

JudgeJ · 22/12/2024 22:17

HRTQueen · 22/12/2024 21:11

I am not sure he killed himself either

he had covered himself for years and he is caught and suddenly he is scared

I don't think he did either, in the same was that Ulrike Meinhof killed herself in a German prison in 1976 though she was no loss to the world.

Corinthiana · 22/12/2024 22:17

I agree, @SerafinasGoose . What were the headlines that summer? Diana was a bad mother. Her kids had been at boarding school and she didn't see them much that summer, she was on a yacht with her boyfriend. It actually harmed the RF when she died, they were very openly criticised and she was raised to Sainthood by many. Forever young.

Katemax82 · 22/12/2024 22:18

BeachHutsAndDeckchairs · 22/12/2024 18:17

The lizard people 🦎

Are they similar to crab people?

CustardySergeant · 22/12/2024 22:18

Gwenhwyfar · 22/12/2024 21:09

I haven't RTFT so maybe I'm not the only one, but I'm inclined to believe that Jeanne Calment, allegedly the world's oldest woman took her own daughter's identity.

I thought it was the other way round. The daughter of Jeanne Calment took her mother's identity, hence the seemingly very long life.

ThisCosyAquaHiker · 22/12/2024 22:19

BoundaryGirl3939 · 22/12/2024 22:13

NASA = Not A Space Agengy

All space footage is fake. The moon landing footage was filmed on a set. Just like a regular side-effects film.

Really....all space footage?

Do you believe in satellites?

Tangfastic71 · 22/12/2024 22:19

Moonfasa100 · 22/12/2024 22:12

It was reported online.

As we don't know what's true and what's not online, I don't knownif it's definitely true.

But it was widely reported online at the time.

Another poster on this thread has also mentioned the CIA man.

Did you hear about it at the time?

No I didn’t. I did hear the made up stories about a confession from an MI5 agent which were disproved. If anyone had wanted to kill her, ask yourself why they would have chosen the very risky and not in the slightest bit foolproof method of a high speed car chase? Why not just do something less public and prone to error?

Khayker · 22/12/2024 22:19

Ever seen the rockets at Kennedy Space Centre? You wouldn't believe the moon landings happened after seeing the displays. Far too flimsy to make it to the moon let alone carry people to the moon and back.

StarDolphins · 22/12/2024 22:20

Deadlykitten · 22/12/2024 22:15

I said he isn’t making it up out of thin air, that it’s from an article back in 2016. Which it is.

I can link the article but it seems a bit silly that you’d spend the time reading it now when that’s probably exactly what your ex was trying to suggest in the first place.

Thank you, please link if you can find. I will be interested to read it.

JudgeJ · 22/12/2024 22:21

Corinthiana · 22/12/2024 21:24

Harry looks very like his father, King Charles, and also a bit like his grandfather, Prince Philip.
He looks nothing like Hewitt.

He was the image of his Grandfather, Philip, when Philip was a similar age and had a beard, Paris Match ran a couple of pictures and the similarity was amazing.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14620831/prince-harry-looks-like-philip-magazine/

Prince Harry looks exactly like his grandad Philip did in his 30s

PRINCE Harry looks exactly like his granddad Philip did aged 36, a magazine cover from 1957 has revealed.  A front cover of Paris Match magazine shows the Duke of Edinburgh decked out in the Tropic…

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14620831/prince-harry-looks-like-philip-magazine

CJsGoldfish · 22/12/2024 22:21

Verbena17 · 22/12/2024 21:53

There are so many ‘conspiracy theories’ that are no longer theories.
Nuland admitted the USA has biolabs in Ukraine for example. If anyone thinks Russia is actually at war with Ukraine, you need to start googling what really went on in 2014.

Then there’s this….

You can't start with a "Nuland admitted...." Tucker Carlson narrative without the original Nuland testimony in the hearing itself 🙄

Then there's 'this'? What is 'this'? It looks like something a conspiracy theorist put together and shared with all the other conspiracy theorists which, as everyone knows, automatically makes it 'true'

The psychology around conspiracy theories and those who believe them is fascinating. I prefer that to thinking about the very real harm done by those who jumped feet first down the rabbit hole 🤷‍♀️

samarrange · 22/12/2024 22:22

Corinthiana · 22/12/2024 19:46

What's your evidence that she knew about Savile and was going public with this knowledge?

Also, do the people advancing this theory not know that Jill Dando, while certainly a very nice and intelligent person, was not an investigative journalist, nor would such a programme exposing Savile have been researched, written, produced, directed, and presented by her alone?

Just imagine if such a programme had been in the offing, and then They(tm) killed her. Would everyone else just meekly pack up? And even if they were scared of Savile, might not at least one of them have come forward after his death to confirm that such a programme had been in preparation?

Verbena17 · 22/12/2024 22:22

StarDolphins · 22/12/2024 22:06

So how exactly would this impact my home ownership & mean that my outright owned home would become a government owned home? It doesn’t make sense!

I definitely think a conspiracy theory website has been tipped off. Too many strange folk
on here in the last hour🤔

I’ve been on MN since 2003 😂. But for me, the science is never settled. I love researching stuff and never rule out anything - why should we? There’s nothing wrong with always asking questions and using our own discernment to work out stuff.

In answer to your question, I was giving you a few real life examples of how easily the government (WEF) could erode society piece by piece - almost so covertly, that nobody notices until it’s too late.

Telling people they can’t go into a pub unless they have been vaccinated for example. In China, the social credit system means that if your social credit score isn’t ‘green’ you aren’t allowed to take certain trains.

All you need is for the government/WEF to insist on no more cash and voila, they have complete control.

It’s not a huge conspiracy - this is what the WEF really stated would happen.
The Georgia Guidestones (before they were luckily blown up), stated that earth’s population should be maintained at 500,000,000. Elites really wanted to keep earth’s population at that level. How exactly were they going to achieve that?

All you have to do is look at just how quickly and easily the majority of the western world voluntarily gave up their freedoms in 2020….without querying it or speaking up. Fortunately though, lots of us DID speak up and that’s why governments eventually had to listen.

Corinthiana · 22/12/2024 22:22

CustardySergeant · 22/12/2024 22:18

I thought it was the other way round. The daughter of Jeanne Calment took her mother's identity, hence the seemingly very long life.

It would have to be! If you took your daughter's identity, you'd be younger...

Tangfastic71 · 22/12/2024 22:23

Deadlykitten · 22/12/2024 22:15

I said he isn’t making it up out of thin air, that it’s from an article back in 2016. Which it is.

I can link the article but it seems a bit silly that you’d spend the time reading it now when that’s probably exactly what your ex was trying to suggest in the first place.

Oh just stop it. That’s not what the context meant at all and you know it. Either you are pointlessly goading or just stupid

Imbusytodaysorry · 22/12/2024 22:23

Errors · 22/12/2024 18:21

I honestly thought I had heard in the news a while back that a report showed that it definitely did 😂
Maybe I wasn’t paying attention

Was it the bbc ? By any chance

Corinthiana · 22/12/2024 22:23

samarrange · 22/12/2024 22:22

Also, do the people advancing this theory not know that Jill Dando, while certainly a very nice and intelligent person, was not an investigative journalist, nor would such a programme exposing Savile have been researched, written, produced, directed, and presented by her alone?

Just imagine if such a programme had been in the offing, and then They(tm) killed her. Would everyone else just meekly pack up? And even if they were scared of Savile, might not at least one of them have come forward after his death to confirm that such a programme had been in preparation?

Quite. I think it's a stretch.

BoundaryGirl3939 · 22/12/2024 22:23

ThisCosyAquaHiker · 22/12/2024 22:19

Really....all space footage?

Do you believe in satellites?

Not sure about that. Perhaps i do.

But the moon landing, exiting a spaceship, bouncing on gravity, travelling back to earth...I don't believe that. So I've lost trust and confidence in them.

NonComm · 22/12/2024 22:24

These days, it's very hard to find unbiased news and information. Also, due to a lack of critical thinking and asking questions, I believe that too many people are really easily led by what they see on social media and consequently believe made up fiction as facts.
I still love a conspiracy theory though.....🕵️‍♀️

Tangfastic71 · 22/12/2024 22:26

StarDolphins · 22/12/2024 22:20

Thank you, please link if you can find. I will be interested to read it.

Don’t waste your time. She’s deluded. The report was about the economy and consumers moving from an ownership to a rental style economy. Where technology enables people to do things like community car share etc etc. No one is coming for your home

Verbena17 · 22/12/2024 22:28

CJsGoldfish · 22/12/2024 22:21

You can't start with a "Nuland admitted...." Tucker Carlson narrative without the original Nuland testimony in the hearing itself 🙄

Then there's 'this'? What is 'this'? It looks like something a conspiracy theorist put together and shared with all the other conspiracy theorists which, as everyone knows, automatically makes it 'true'

The psychology around conspiracy theories and those who believe them is fascinating. I prefer that to thinking about the very real harm done by those who jumped feet first down the rabbit hole 🤷‍♀️

The psychology of those people who don’t question a single thing, ever, at all is extremely interesting.

Govt - you must get vaccinated
Majority of Public - oh okay
’Conspiracy theorists’ - pls tell us what’s in the vaccine
Govt - No
Majority of Public - oh ok, no problem, we’ll take it anyway
‘conspiracy theorists’ - we’ll choose not to then as we can’t see what’s being pumped into our bodies if you don’t show us the insert slips at the vaxx clinics.
Majority of Public - The govt wouldn’t lie to us about vaccines
Pfizer - nope - we are going to ban the Public from seeing the trial data for 75 years

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