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Going to scream at woman at hairdressers

153 replies

LunaTheCat · 19/12/2024 22:12

Sitting at hairdresser, foils in , reading my book. There is a woman next to me using the hairdresser as her office - laptop, cell glued to her ear, shouting down her phone, trying to do a deal.
WTAF - total lack consideration for others around. She is probably under pressure so part of me is trying to think kind thoughts.

OP posts:
Lavender14 · 20/12/2024 16:08

WowIlikereallyhateyou · 20/12/2024 16:07

Totally agree. Nobody needs that.

I think though that a hairdressers is the same as any other public space. Its not a spa, there's no rules around noise and there will be people who can't afford to take that time to just enjoy for themselves, whether it's because they've been under incredible pressure at work or because they're a single mother with no childcare who's had to bring a child to their appointment rather than cancel. Getting appointments can be like hens teeth at this time of year and if you cancel you'd never get another one. So given the time of year I think it's fair enough to assume she's been unable to cancel or rebook.

WowIlikereallyhateyou · 20/12/2024 16:11

Spangledangle · 20/12/2024 13:42

People have forgotten how to behave in public, it's symptomatic of the selfishness that has crept into society in the last few years. I've worked on trains/at hairdressers/cafes etc but would never sit subjecting people to loud protracted work calls.

Yes, the entitlement rears its ugly head yet again.

WowIlikereallyhateyou · 20/12/2024 16:12

Lavender14 · 20/12/2024 16:08

I think though that a hairdressers is the same as any other public space. Its not a spa, there's no rules around noise and there will be people who can't afford to take that time to just enjoy for themselves, whether it's because they've been under incredible pressure at work or because they're a single mother with no childcare who's had to bring a child to their appointment rather than cancel. Getting appointments can be like hens teeth at this time of year and if you cancel you'd never get another one. So given the time of year I think it's fair enough to assume she's been unable to cancel or rebook.

So everyone else has to put up with your noise? Perhaps be more organised.

NewName24 · 20/12/2024 16:18

I think though that a hairdressers is the same as any other public space.

Well, quite.
It isn't appropriate to be making loud phone calls in a cafe, or on the bus, or anywhere else it is encroaching upon other people's peace.

dynamiccactus · 20/12/2024 16:18

MerryChristmasToYou · 20/12/2024 15:30

@dynamiccactus , my dentist has a sign up in the waiting room that says no mobiles, though you can use them silently to doom scroll
My dentist has had patients trying to take calls during treatment.

Erm....and how exactly do they expect to do that Grin

YouOKHun · 20/12/2024 16:25

@LunaTheCat don't get cross, instead why not follow her lead? Why not bring your work to the salon too? Shampoo, fit a Mirena, conditioner, lance a boil, while your colour is waiting deal with a nasty case of haemorrhoids, while having a blow dry, prescribe 100mg Citalopram o/d. WFH might actually stand for Work From Hairdresser. Don't worry about confidentiality, everyone is listening to the much louder woman with the laptop next to you.

MerryChristmasToYou · 20/12/2024 16:28

dynamiccactus · 20/12/2024 16:18

Erm....and how exactly do they expect to do that Grin

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ChilliPanda · 20/12/2024 16:28

Spangledangle · 20/12/2024 13:42

People have forgotten how to behave in public, it's symptomatic of the selfishness that has crept into society in the last few years. I've worked on trains/at hairdressers/cafes etc but would never sit subjecting people to loud protracted work calls.

Totally Agree !

HagathaChristi · 20/12/2024 16:36

op, your wanting to scream suggests that you are every bit as stressed as she is. On another day it probably wouldn't have bothered you.

Lavender14 · 20/12/2024 16:36

WowIlikereallyhateyou · 20/12/2024 16:12

So everyone else has to put up with your noise? Perhaps be more organised.

Is it a case of organising though?? I'm a single parent, if my child doesn't come to the hairdressers with me then I can't get my hair done. I work in safeguarding,I regularly get pulled into crisis management on my day off with no notice? I always do what I can to try and organise myself in advance but sometimes life happens.

LunaTheCat · 20/12/2024 16:41

YouOKHun
🤣🤣 actually similar things have happened. I work in quite a small town where most people know me… I go to hairdressers in nearest city because I want a bit time out… but I have been asked about haemorrhoids in a queue whist buying wine, someone asked whether their hand could be fractured at a local cafe- multiple other things. I see it as being part community I serve and a privilege- although maybe not the haemorrhoids!
Thanks for the lovely support in this thread. To those who were worried I actually didn’t scream! I also am a person who’s moto is “don’t judge another man until you have walked a mile in his shoes” I was also reading a book about Buddhism and compassion for others so I did say I was trying to think kind thoughts!
Merry Christmas to everyone.

OP posts:
Resilienceisimportant · 20/12/2024 16:47

VegTrug · 20/12/2024 15:39

@Resilienceisimportant To be fair, I have a DD with autism and although I make sure it's on silent, she always has my phone in restaurants/cafés. This is necessary as she becomes overstimulated in places like that.

Even though for that very reason, eating out is a rare thing for us, why should we not go anywhere, ever? Just because random strangers have an issue with a child with special needs, playing games silently on her Mum's phone in order to keep her calm?!
How else do we gradually get her used to being in these types of public places?

I do what I can to get her off it & engage her in conversation now that she's older but when she was small the phone (again, no volume) was bloody mandatory if I wanted a quick cuppa at the garden centre for example.

Then it’s perfectly fine. I didn’t say it wasn’t. I also don’t think just because I’m irritated the whole world should bend to me. When parents have props pig or whatever else on at a volume where two tables over I can hear every word, yeah I ask them to turn it down. It’s just about being considerate of others which it sounds like you are. It’s when people aren’t because they feel their reason overrides others that it’s an issue.

NiftyKoala · 20/12/2024 16:56

I don't feel pampered at the hair salon. But I still don't want to have to hear someone's business dealings. If you are so busy with work you shouldn't be at the salon.

WowIlikereallyhateyou · 20/12/2024 16:59

Lavender14 · 20/12/2024 16:36

Is it a case of organising though?? I'm a single parent, if my child doesn't come to the hairdressers with me then I can't get my hair done. I work in safeguarding,I regularly get pulled into crisis management on my day off with no notice? I always do what I can to try and organise myself in advance but sometimes life happens.

Yup it does,but you don’t have to share it with everyone

MerryChristmasToYou · 20/12/2024 17:04

Lavender14 · 20/12/2024 16:36

Is it a case of organising though?? I'm a single parent, if my child doesn't come to the hairdressers with me then I can't get my hair done. I work in safeguarding,I regularly get pulled into crisis management on my day off with no notice? I always do what I can to try and organise myself in advance but sometimes life happens.

And you think it is OK to discuss safeguarding in a public place?

Justleaveitblankthen · 20/12/2024 17:26

A woman came in and sat on the chair next to me as I waited for my foils to take.
For thirty minutes she slagged off everyone from her close family, to randomers in the street.
She also swore like a trouper.

After she left I asked my hairdresser what work did she do, as she had been asked to pop in whenever she was next passing.

Her job? "Wellness coach" at a local civic centre 😂

Blackbirdsinthgarden · 20/12/2024 18:34

I hear and understand where you’re coming from op. I don’t particularly like going to the hairdressers. I had a really good one when I was working(she was the salon owner). I used to go every 6 weeks on a Friday after work but soon realised a woman seemed to book the same length of time as me, and was usually the appointment after. She always arrived early, when my foils were being done, and instead of just flicking through a magazine or on her ‘phone and await her turn, she used to sit at the chair next to me and starting chatting to my hairdresser - so annoying! It was MY appointment! Eventually, when I realised that this was happening, I re-arranged my day so that my appointment didn’t coincide with hers - too stressful!!! She was SO loud!

I am now retired and go to a very good hairdresser who rents a chair at the salon at the top of my road. She’s good and accommodating, but oh the noise when all four stylists, plus apprentice, are in at the same time!! I eventually asked her when her quiet(ish) times were and try to go then. It’s never a relaxing experience and I wouldn’t want someone making ‘phone calls next to me, no matter how their time was stretched. Nor, would I want to listen to someone else’s conversation on public transport/in a cafe etc. Thankfully, I have the choice to pick and choose quiet times, but realise many others don’t, but I still feel people should respect others!

pinkyredrose · 20/12/2024 18:38

Lavender14 · 20/12/2024 16:08

I think though that a hairdressers is the same as any other public space. Its not a spa, there's no rules around noise and there will be people who can't afford to take that time to just enjoy for themselves, whether it's because they've been under incredible pressure at work or because they're a single mother with no childcare who's had to bring a child to their appointment rather than cancel. Getting appointments can be like hens teeth at this time of year and if you cancel you'd never get another one. So given the time of year I think it's fair enough to assume she's been unable to cancel or rebook.

Hair salons aren't 'public spaces'.

pinkyredrose · 20/12/2024 18:41

Lavender14 · 20/12/2024 16:36

Is it a case of organising though?? I'm a single parent, if my child doesn't come to the hairdressers with me then I can't get my hair done. I work in safeguarding,I regularly get pulled into crisis management on my day off with no notice? I always do what I can to try and organise myself in advance but sometimes life happens.

Then see a mobile hairdresser at home, sounds the best solution all round.

PrincessofWells · 20/12/2024 18:42

SummerFeverVenice · 19/12/2024 22:52

This has to be one of the most smug posts I’ve seen in awhile. Yes OP, a lady of leisure such as yourself should not be subjected to working girls being seen and heard during a hairdressing pampering session. It really brings down the tone of the place.

Your post has to be the most misogynist on the thread. She wasn't 'a girl' she was a woman.

Professionals should not make or receive phone calls in public spaces for lots of reasons, one being confidentiality and another because it really pisses other people off. You have to be full of your own self importance not to recognise that.

namechangetheworld · 20/12/2024 18:57

I'll never understand people claiming they go to the hairdressers to "relax and unwind." You're there to get your hair done, it's not a bloody spa day. With the hairdryers whirring and people chattering I don't understand why a woman making a few phone calls would distress you this much. She probably had a deadline to meet, I'm sure she would have much rather been reading a magazine or chatting to the hairdresser instead.

MerryChristmasToYou · 20/12/2024 19:41

With the hairdryers whirring and people chattering
I don't understand why a woman would making a few phone calls
She probably had a deadline to meet
then why not do her job instead of having her hair done?

Igavebirthtoabanana · 20/12/2024 21:56

For the last five years I’ve been a customer in a hair salon where they’ve strive very hard to make it a relaxing space. It’s certainly not a “public space” 🤣 For instance they do not accept any children in their premises as they want to provide a calm environment for their customers. I love going there!

When on the chair, yes it is noisy with hairdryers etc but if you have foils, you are directed to a separate, very plush seating area and not just left on the chair like in many other places.

I’d imagine they’d take a dim view on someone suddenly dominating the space with their loud work calls.

MissTrip82 · 20/12/2024 22:15

Lavender14 · 20/12/2024 16:36

Is it a case of organising though?? I'm a single parent, if my child doesn't come to the hairdressers with me then I can't get my hair done. I work in safeguarding,I regularly get pulled into crisis management on my day off with no notice? I always do what I can to try and organise myself in advance but sometimes life happens.

Surely you’re not taking those calls in public spaces like a hair salon though?

I can’t fathom what work calls would be appropriate in such a public area but calls about confidential matters surely would not be.

This woman has an unusual job if she can go the hair salon during the day, but also doesn’t have the time to stop work, but also can deal with client matters whilst random strangers listen in.

Lavender14 · 21/12/2024 00:28

MissTrip82 · 20/12/2024 22:15

Surely you’re not taking those calls in public spaces like a hair salon though?

I can’t fathom what work calls would be appropriate in such a public area but calls about confidential matters surely would not be.

This woman has an unusual job if she can go the hair salon during the day, but also doesn’t have the time to stop work, but also can deal with client matters whilst random strangers listen in.

Obviously I am not taking calls and discussing confidential information in public but I may need to give general guidance on how to handle a scenario to my team without using names or anything else confidential or identifiable etc in a place where I could be overheard. I'm constantly out and about in my job so I don't always have a private office to escape to to hand. My point is just that sometimes people have jobs where things need addressed quickly and things come up unplanned a lot and it would be very difficult to plan ahead for that especially if there isn't someone else there to cover you at that moment. If I had to cancel appointments every time that happened I'd be out a fortune in late cancellation fees, never mind the loss of income for whatever business I was about to use and the frustration for them in terms of wasted appointments.