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Dreading step-daughter coming home

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AquaAnsie · 19/12/2024 15:45

DH and I have been together for 7 years, married for 3. He has one DD, she's 24. I have 4 DC, DS is 26 then DDs who are 25, 23, and 20.
My two middle DC have autism, they have always really struggled with socialising and my 23 and 20 year olds live at home, my 25 year old lives 5 minute walk away.
My children and DSD went to school together, she was a year below my eldest DD and a year above my middle DD. My DD's really struggled in school, which wasn't made any better by bullying. DSD was part of the group who did a lot of the bullying (all very sporty, very pretty, middle class girls picking on those who hadn't quite settled, were from lower income families). DSD claims she was never the one doing the bullying but my DDs really struggle when she is around.

My 23 year old really struggles with her autism, she hates it when DSD is here, basically never leaves her room, she is very intimidated by DSD. DD also struggles with routine changes massively and is easily overstimulated.
When DSD is here, she plays music all the time, goes out with her friends and comes back at 2/3 am (she isn't loud but DD is a light sleeper and this will wake DD up and scare her to the point she won't sleep again). My DS also puts on an act when she is here, tries to buddy up with her BF and basically ignores his sisters and says they have to grow up.

Over the years there has been a lot of back and forth. We went out a walk one year and my eldest DD was complaining she was tired and DSD loudly muttered "if you lost weight you wouldn't be tired", she apologised but DD is very insecure so this has stuck with her (DD is a size 14/16 so not exactly big or anything, but DSD is a size 6 and very judgy of any overweight). In an argument about 2 years ago she also shouted at my DD's "You need to grow up, get a real job and stop getting my dad to fund your life". This obviously left sour taste but she again apologised.

DSD has a bit of a superiority complex, she is an Oxbridge grad, now doing her training contract for a law firm in London making crazy money for a grad (she's a couple years behind other her age on average as she did a gap year then a year abroad at uni). She looks down on my family as my DDs didn't go to uni (well DS did and he is the only one she actually gets on with).

On Sunday she and her boyfriend are coming back for a few days, they've only been dating since spring and her dad has met him but none of the rest of us have. As if DSD being home won't cause my girls enough stress, a total stranger in the house will make it 10x worse.

I just know their will be an argument, my DDs will get upset, DS will side with DSD as he thinks it makes him look smart.

DH never has any input, he thinks his DD can do no wrong, total princess in his eyes. He never outright agrees with her but he never tells her to say sorry or calls her out.

AIBU to be absolutely dreading her coming back even if it is just for 3/4 days? I find her so hard to be around at times!

OP posts:
TwigletsAndRadishes · 20/12/2024 08:49

Frankly I am amazed that if the DD's noise sensitivity is as bad as the OP suggests, that she needed this people on this thread to suggest the flipping obvious, that noise cancelling headphones might be a good idea. That just tells me that the DD's sensory issues have been grossly exaggerated in order to elicit sympathy and get the DH to agree that his DD should tiptoe around her, literally and metaphorically.

Any autistic person who is scared or over-stimulated that easily by music or simple things like doors opening and closing at night almost certainly already has headphones/ear defenders. These girls were in mainstream school remember.

NameChange2589 · 20/12/2024 08:50

Well done for taking on board the comments and being open to a different perspective OP, hopefully you’ll all rub along better going forwards!

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 20/12/2024 08:50

@AquaAnsie - if you are still reading ( and this isn’t a wind up), do you think given 3 of your dcs are autistic, that you might be as well? Because you seem to have only thought about how your step daughter made you feel and how she negatively affected your children, but until it was pointed out to you, you haven’t considered how you and your children have negatively affected her. You haven’t considered you might be seen by outsiders as a gold digger. That your children’s financial support from your dh is effectively taking from step-daughter’s inheritance.

you hadn’t thought about her as a young woman who’s lost her mother and might need you to have a mothering role as she navigates adulthood but you just haven’t made an effort to do that.

Mumofteenandtween · 20/12/2024 09:06

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 20/12/2024 08:50

@AquaAnsie - if you are still reading ( and this isn’t a wind up), do you think given 3 of your dcs are autistic, that you might be as well? Because you seem to have only thought about how your step daughter made you feel and how she negatively affected your children, but until it was pointed out to you, you haven’t considered how you and your children have negatively affected her. You haven’t considered you might be seen by outsiders as a gold digger. That your children’s financial support from your dh is effectively taking from step-daughter’s inheritance.

you hadn’t thought about her as a young woman who’s lost her mother and might need you to have a mothering role as she navigates adulthood but you just haven’t made an effort to do that.

It also hasn’t occurred to her that the dsd might be hurt by the regular accusations of being a bully. (She says that the dsd might be “always says” implying that this is regularly brought up.)

Or that the two times (in 7 years!) that the Op was able to drag up where the dsd said something rather unkind (and then immediately apologised) were from complete frustration. The Op says that when her daughter is uncomfortable then she makes everyone miserable. And that the dsd’s mere existence makes her dd uncomfortable. So the dsd is never able to visit her dad in her childhood home without the dd making everyone miserable.

TwigletsAndRadishes · 20/12/2024 09:08

sixtyten · 19/12/2024 23:57

It's not about 'compromise enough'. These issues are different ones. And it's no one's business but OP's and her family's how their finances work.

Well I think that 99.99% of people would agree that it's definitely his daughter's business, and the other 0.01% would be wrong.

Isittimeformynapyet · 20/12/2024 09:14

Babyghirl · 19/12/2024 23:11

@AquaAnsie I hate these threads where people say you may just suck it up, at the end of the day it's your home to and if you didn't want the boyfriend to come that should of been respected, her wants don't trump you every time, I would set serious boundaries tbh for the future if your husband insists on her bring her new shinny toy each time he can rent an air b&b for the 3 of them to stay, no way would I let a stranger in my home especially over Christmas to feel uncomfortable.

It's as if you haven't read the thread!

MildredSauce · 20/12/2024 09:24

Babyghirl · 19/12/2024 23:11

@AquaAnsie I hate these threads where people say you may just suck it up, at the end of the day it's your home to and if you didn't want the boyfriend to come that should of been respected, her wants don't trump you every time, I would set serious boundaries tbh for the future if your husband insists on her bring her new shinny toy each time he can rent an air b&b for the 3 of them to stay, no way would I let a stranger in my home especially over Christmas to feel uncomfortable.

Blimey OP, have you got your DDs on mumsnet too, now?

G5000 · 20/12/2024 09:27

It's really not hard to see which posters are second wives who hate and resent their stepchildren, is it.

Betchyaby · 20/12/2024 09:28

G5000 · 20/12/2024 09:27

It's really not hard to see which posters are second wives who hate and resent their stepchildren, is it.

Thankfully the majority of us are on the DD side, stepmothers included.

LePetitMaman · 20/12/2024 09:31

TwigletsAndRadishes · 20/12/2024 07:29

I can well believe that he wasn't aware of these 'complex needs' at the time he moved the OP in and married her. He probably thought they were just normal teens, not as high-achieving as his DD, which would be pretty standard for most kids, but still at least average and fairly capable of functioning perfectly normally in life. Not going into meltdown with paranoia when someone speaks Italian in front of them, not incapable of going for a walk without getting tired, (I doubt they were attempting to climb Snowdon) not whingeing about feeling intimidated by his DD, not having to creep around his own house in silence in case they get 'scared'.

I suspect what has happened is that as they've got older and their relative lack achievement has become more and more evident in comparison to his DD, the diagnoses have arrived along with the copious excuses for why they can't possibly be expected to continue in higher education or work full time, or have as many friends or boyfriends, or live independently or pay their own rent. The better his daughter does, the more the OP will pathologise and excuse her own children's relative lack of success in life and demand that the household revolves around adjusting to their ND needs. I imagine she hopes this will stop any direct comparisons, where clearly all four of her own children will be found lacking, and three of them quite markedly so. So she goes all out to make sure everyone focuses on their autism, because it's easier than having to admit that they just aren't as clever, resilient or popular.

The irony is that the OP insists her DDs could not possibly have managed to go to university because of their autism so it's unfair to compare them to this Oxbridge graduate that 'poops unicorn rainbows'. But autism and ADHD (or just the general Gen Z affliction of collapsing mentally and emotionally when faced with what should be ordinary everyday challenges) not only never stopped anyone getting to any uni in recent years, but it never even stopped anyone getting into Oxbridge. It's not her DD's autism per se that is stopping them achieving in education and in life. It's their lack of intellectual ability, presumably. And that must sting.

'Over the past 15 years, disability at Cambridge has increased more than fivefold, and is now declared by some 6,000 students (roughly one in four). The two major areas of growth have been ‘mental health conditions’ and ‘specific learning difficulties’. Many students register anxiety as the cause, yet the university and the NHS have neither the bandwidth nor the incentive to stress-test the claims. In four years, the number of students with ADHD has doubled, and is now approaching a thousand. As a result, the university’s Accessibility and Disability Resource Centre has gone into overdrive, mandating changes in teaching and examination across the board.'

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/decline-and-fall-how-university-education-became-infantilised/

Edited

Oh this in spades.

It's absolutely vile and extremely calculating.

sixtyten · 20/12/2024 09:31

G5000 · 20/12/2024 09:27

It's really not hard to see which posters are second wives who hate and resent their stepchildren, is it.

Funny, I was just thinking it was easy to see who the stepparent haters are! and possibly who the bullies are as well

Memyselfmilly · 20/12/2024 09:31

AquaAnsie · 19/12/2024 19:50

Also, I don't think it is fair that we are saying DSD should be allowed to do xyz in her own home. Listening to music with headphones won't bring her any discomfort, without it will bring my DD discomfort, not going out late won't scare her, it will scare my DD. I think its unfair my DD should be uncomfortable in her home for the sake of DSDs pleasures rather than needs.

The boyfriend is a whole other issue, I doubt she will be on her best behaviour for him as she never did this for the last boyfriend. Her last boyfriend actually contributes to why my DDs struggle with strangers around, he and DSD would chat in italian or french half the time which made my DDs paranoid they were talking about her (boyfriend was italian and both DSD and the BF spoke french as a second language).He was also loud all the time, if he had been more considerate they would probably handle strangers better!

Love the hypocrisy of precious daughter being paranoid they were chatting behind her back in another language but it’s perfectly acceptable to be absolutely vile about step daughter on a public internet forum

G5000 · 20/12/2024 09:32

Betchyaby · 20/12/2024 09:28

Thankfully the majority of us are on the DD side, stepmothers included.

I'm not who the majority is you're referring to, certainly not posters on this thread.

LePetitMaman · 20/12/2024 09:46

Startinganew32 · 20/12/2024 08:01

Are you for actual real? Sex addicted simpleton because he gets married 15 years after his wife died and their ADULT children don’t get on well. These are adults.
The smug marrieds are out in force today it seems.

Yeah she's for real.

Because only a simpleton would let OP and her scrounging children abuse his own daughter like this. A daughter who lost her mother at 4.

I have an ND child. And his condition means he's often impulsive, can be withdrawn, angry, emotional, all manner of things depending on the day. Do you know it doesn't mean? That I'm a calculating money grabbing mother who capitalises on his condition so I can pretend he's not just lazier and more entitled than someone else as an excuse to get bankrolled by that person's parent. Now times that by 3 or 4 because that's how many sponges OP has planted in this home.

Yet the DH falls for that too. Simpleton is indeed the right word here. Most likely through sex because this horrendous cuckoos nest OP has orchestrated, no normal person would ever entertain. Especially not at the expense of their already motherless child.

Sneezeless · 20/12/2024 09:47

@TwigletsAndRadishes

Spot on. DSD is everything that OP's daughter isn't.

Betchyaby · 20/12/2024 09:48

G5000 · 20/12/2024 09:32

I'm not who the majority is you're referring to, certainly not posters on this thread.

Have you actually read this whole thread from page 1? OP has been slammed by the vast majority. 73% voted her unreasonable.

Betchyaby · 20/12/2024 09:51

@G5000 I think there have been crossed wires here. When I said DD I was referring to the DH daughter, should have said SD.

socks1107 · 20/12/2024 09:58

I think you sound a bit jealous, she's clearly done very well and you seem to resent that. Maybe her nasty comments come from insecurity in what was once her home that everyone else lives in now.
I understand your dd struggles but as an adult she should be accepting of your dhs dd when she's hone and hiding away may make sd feel uncomfortable too.
It's a difficult situation but you created it marrying a man whose dd you accuse of bullying your own so you need to manage your jealousy and talk to your own dd about her rudeness and hiding away

G5000 · 20/12/2024 10:00

Yes I was confused if we are reading the same thread, I agree that majority of posters are on SD's side.

AnonymousBleep · 20/12/2024 10:07

BeardyButton · 20/12/2024 07:59

I am obsessed with this thread. Part of me is hoping it’s a troll…. At least then I can reaffirm that no man is as absolutely stupid as OPs husband.

MN and all the step parenting threads made me become interested in the Cinderella effect - the no 1 vulnerability factor for facing abuse as a child is living with a step parent. Honestly- nothing has made me work harder at my marriage than this… the idea that we could divorce and my beautiful son could end up the ‘DSD’ in this situation. But at least he’d still have me! I’d be somewhere - providing a home, making sure the resources I worked hard for wouldn’t be squandered on some woman and her 4 kids… but Christ… I hadn’t thought about dying!!!??? That poor bloody woman.

If this thread is real - what a woman the DSD is?! Head girl, excellent job, maintained a solid relationship with her dad even though he is an obvious sex addicted simpleton (why else, people?). Fair dues to this woman!

OP if you are real (unlikely) and you genuinely now understand the situation…. You asked for advice to put it right…

Sort the will out. Makesure you and your children will NOT benefit from the death of this woman’s mother. Agree on a fair allocation of resources (how much did you bring into this marriage, how much have you contributed within the marriage etc) and then the rest is dsd.

I feel similar. It's just too similar to the actual story of Cinderella to convince me it can be real! I bet the Wicked Stepmother would have claimed her daughters were being bullied by Cinderella/autistic too! (And as an adult with ADHD, I know alllll about how hard it can be to function in every day life if you're ND, but what you don't do is use it as an excuse to leech off someone else's inheritance). I'm also a stepchild though and although mine weren't as horrific as the OP, they weren't great either. I'm well aware that any inheritance will be funnelled to their own kids and I'll be left with nothing (I factored that in long ago). So part of me thinks it could be true. And if so, how on EARTH is the DSD's dad such an absolute drip? Why do seemingly decent parents invite such blatant spongers into their home and let them treat their own biological children like this?

Memyselfmilly · 20/12/2024 10:10

AnonymousBleep · 20/12/2024 10:07

I feel similar. It's just too similar to the actual story of Cinderella to convince me it can be real! I bet the Wicked Stepmother would have claimed her daughters were being bullied by Cinderella/autistic too! (And as an adult with ADHD, I know alllll about how hard it can be to function in every day life if you're ND, but what you don't do is use it as an excuse to leech off someone else's inheritance). I'm also a stepchild though and although mine weren't as horrific as the OP, they weren't great either. I'm well aware that any inheritance will be funnelled to their own kids and I'll be left with nothing (I factored that in long ago). So part of me thinks it could be true. And if so, how on EARTH is the DSD's dad such an absolute drip? Why do seemingly decent parents invite such blatant spongers into their home and let them treat their own biological children like this?

So hopeful that DH has a friend or relative that recognises this and he can see OP for what she truly is. His daughter deserves a relationship with her father and this will never happen with evil sponging stepmother on the scene

socks1107 · 20/12/2024 10:23

G5000 · 20/12/2024 09:27

It's really not hard to see which posters are second wives who hate and resent their stepchildren, is it.

I'm a step mum and I'm firmly on the sd side.

G5000 · 20/12/2024 10:28

socks1107 · 20/12/2024 10:23

I'm a step mum and I'm firmly on the sd side.

To avoid confusion, I did not want to imply all step-parents hate their stepkids. Just that it's quite obvious which ones here do.

TwigletsAndRadishes · 20/12/2024 10:42

I'd be tempted to think this was a writer testing out a film script for a modern version of Cinderella, but no way would you get away with casting the entitled, lazy and faintly stupid Ugly Sisters as autistic, so it must be true, sadly.

Gloriia · 20/12/2024 10:48

It's just surprising that the dsd tolerates this. Surely she'd tell her df that she needs to feel welcome and comfortable in her own home, surely such a successful, well educated and popular person would handle this better.
It just seems so extreme. I mean why would anyone mind a bf speaking in his actual first language, or music being played etc.

It is all very bizarre.

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