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Dreading step-daughter coming home

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AquaAnsie · 19/12/2024 15:45

DH and I have been together for 7 years, married for 3. He has one DD, she's 24. I have 4 DC, DS is 26 then DDs who are 25, 23, and 20.
My two middle DC have autism, they have always really struggled with socialising and my 23 and 20 year olds live at home, my 25 year old lives 5 minute walk away.
My children and DSD went to school together, she was a year below my eldest DD and a year above my middle DD. My DD's really struggled in school, which wasn't made any better by bullying. DSD was part of the group who did a lot of the bullying (all very sporty, very pretty, middle class girls picking on those who hadn't quite settled, were from lower income families). DSD claims she was never the one doing the bullying but my DDs really struggle when she is around.

My 23 year old really struggles with her autism, she hates it when DSD is here, basically never leaves her room, she is very intimidated by DSD. DD also struggles with routine changes massively and is easily overstimulated.
When DSD is here, she plays music all the time, goes out with her friends and comes back at 2/3 am (she isn't loud but DD is a light sleeper and this will wake DD up and scare her to the point she won't sleep again). My DS also puts on an act when she is here, tries to buddy up with her BF and basically ignores his sisters and says they have to grow up.

Over the years there has been a lot of back and forth. We went out a walk one year and my eldest DD was complaining she was tired and DSD loudly muttered "if you lost weight you wouldn't be tired", she apologised but DD is very insecure so this has stuck with her (DD is a size 14/16 so not exactly big or anything, but DSD is a size 6 and very judgy of any overweight). In an argument about 2 years ago she also shouted at my DD's "You need to grow up, get a real job and stop getting my dad to fund your life". This obviously left sour taste but she again apologised.

DSD has a bit of a superiority complex, she is an Oxbridge grad, now doing her training contract for a law firm in London making crazy money for a grad (she's a couple years behind other her age on average as she did a gap year then a year abroad at uni). She looks down on my family as my DDs didn't go to uni (well DS did and he is the only one she actually gets on with).

On Sunday she and her boyfriend are coming back for a few days, they've only been dating since spring and her dad has met him but none of the rest of us have. As if DSD being home won't cause my girls enough stress, a total stranger in the house will make it 10x worse.

I just know their will be an argument, my DDs will get upset, DS will side with DSD as he thinks it makes him look smart.

DH never has any input, he thinks his DD can do no wrong, total princess in his eyes. He never outright agrees with her but he never tells her to say sorry or calls her out.

AIBU to be absolutely dreading her coming back even if it is just for 3/4 days? I find her so hard to be around at times!

OP posts:
Mirabai · 19/12/2024 22:15

NonPlayerCharacter · 19/12/2024 22:02

If you truly believed that your SD bullied your daughter to the point that your daughter remains affected by it, you wouldn't have made them stepsisters who have to share a home.

Fair point.

Motomum23 · 19/12/2024 22:15

You sound like a totally over the top parent
They are all young adults. Autism or not its time they got on with it without mummy hen interfering.

Onlyonekenobe · 19/12/2024 22:24

AquaAnsie · 19/12/2024 21:09

Okay, I've ordered noise cancelling headphones for all of my DDs (usually only the middle struggles but lets avoid issues right).

Tomorrow I'll sit them down and chat. Im thinking "This is stepdaughters home too, she grew up here and part of us all being a family now mean we will all make compromises, for DSD that looks like being quiet when she gets home, vaping/smoking in the garden (tbf she never complains about this as we all hate the smell of the vapes). For them it looks like accepting there will be music, its her home too and if she/DH/DS/BF want to have a dance party they are welcome to it. She will come home late, but we will put white noise on, ask her to come in through the side door (the front door is right below DDs window and it bangs loudly). We will put the past behind us and move forward and make sure everyone has a nice Christmas. What else should I be saying?

I'm wondering if I've been a bit harsh to you on this thread, OP. Your responses, references to overwhelm, direct approach to problem solving, and also attitude towards DSD sound quite black and white. Do you have an autism diagnosis too?

I think the main thing you need to do, and bring your DC along with you in doing, is seeing DSD for the person she is. See her as an equal member of the family, entitled to time and space in her family home with her father, a decent person, and not the teenager she may (or may not - who knows) have been a decade ago. See her as a person with as much energy and consideration and concern and thought as you see your own DC. Perhaps enlist your DS in this because it sounds like he's already there. You need a mindset adjustment, not practical solutions. You simply cannot go on resenting her for having the second biggest room in her own house, and calling it a shrine. You cannot go about thinking she has no right to go out and about, listen to music, disrupt your settled routine when you're actually living in HER childhood home. Can you see how wrong that is? Would you like someone to treat your children that way? You need to think about how you have disrupted her life; what she's been through as a motherless child; how hard she's worked for what she has; what it's like for her to see her dad with you and your 4 children. There's simply no room for jealousy. It may seem like she's got the world on a stick, but she doesn't. There's room for everybody in this family.

Just have some empathy and put yourself in her shoes, show her the same type of consideration you show your own children. That's what your DH does for you and your children, after all.

LondonPapa · 19/12/2024 22:26

AquaAnsie · 19/12/2024 21:09

Okay, I've ordered noise cancelling headphones for all of my DDs (usually only the middle struggles but lets avoid issues right).

Tomorrow I'll sit them down and chat. Im thinking "This is stepdaughters home too, she grew up here and part of us all being a family now mean we will all make compromises, for DSD that looks like being quiet when she gets home, vaping/smoking in the garden (tbf she never complains about this as we all hate the smell of the vapes). For them it looks like accepting there will be music, its her home too and if she/DH/DS/BF want to have a dance party they are welcome to it. She will come home late, but we will put white noise on, ask her to come in through the side door (the front door is right below DDs window and it bangs loudly). We will put the past behind us and move forward and make sure everyone has a nice Christmas. What else should I be saying?

From the sounds of it, it is her house and you’re allowed to stay there. Not it’s her house too, it is her house.

You need to make it very clear it is her home and they should compromise. From what you’ve written throughout this thread, they’re the arseholes along with you, not DSD. You really need to start making it up to DSD and forcing your children to engage productively. You can lead the charge considering your own behaviour towards DSD.

And I hope for your sake, you don’t suggest DSD stays in a hotel again.

Haggia · 19/12/2024 22:26

Time to tell the jealous princesses that they need to budge up on the golden carriage seat (which their stepdaddy paid for).

G5000 · 19/12/2024 22:29

not going out late won't scare her, it will scare my DD.

Can you try to see it from SD perspective? She's a young adult, she wants to live a totally normal young adult life and go out. She comes back 2AM, nothing outrageous, to our own home. She does not show up with 20 friends to continue a loud party - she is quiet and considerate. Is it reasonable to demand she does not go out and see her friends because another adult, who has moved into her house, is a light sleeper and 'gets scared' because SD got home? It's not, is it.

Branleuse · 19/12/2024 22:34

I dont understand why your husband took on such a large family.
I feel sorry for your sd. I think she lost her mother, and her dad has taken on an entire other family who dont contribute financially. Youre a real money pit. I also think your whole attitude about it is ungrateful and entitled.

I am autistic and so are my husband and kids fwiw. You need to support your children in getting ready for independent living, or semi independent in supported housing. You cant just have a man funding your whole family, and moan about his daughter coming back for Xmas. Are you serious?? Cuckoos!

Your dh should be ashamed of himself

the7Vabo · 19/12/2024 22:36

AquaAnsie · 19/12/2024 21:13

On Christmas Eve we go to my sisters so that's easily sorted.

Have you considered staying in your sister’s for Christmas?

Im not sure from your posts that you appreciate the enormity of the situation from your DSD point of view.

It’s her family home, it’s not her home & your DDs home.

Angelou79 · 19/12/2024 22:37

Fair play OP you’ve listened to majority & taken onboard general feedback. I wish you & your blended family a very happy Xmas. You ALL deserve a great one.

sixtyten · 19/12/2024 22:37

Mirabai · 19/12/2024 22:14

I don’t buy the bullying myself. Someone who is head girl, really academic, wants to be a lawyer, is not that likely to indulge in that kind of behaviour. It sounds more like it was girls in her friendship group. DSD outright stated that she was never the one doing the bullying and also that DD knew that wasn’t true. I believe her personally.

It’s clear that OP and her whole family feel inferior, insecure around her, and struggle with confidence in general. I wonder how much OP’s kids are egged on by her own resentment.

I think that's a really naive assumption to make, that a certain type of person couldn't possibly be a bully. It really doesn't work that way.

calmandcollected101 · 19/12/2024 22:38

Itaverages · 19/12/2024 16:06

I can't get over the fact you married the father of one of your daughters school bullies knowing it would put the bully in her life forever and she's now having to deal with it in her 20s.

This

Also your DH DD is probably feeling put out by your larger family

Doesn't mean nasty comments should be made.

However it's her home too

sixtyten · 19/12/2024 22:40

Perplexed20 · 19/12/2024 19:28

Nope. She did because she was frustrated and then immediately apologised.

Did that not fit your narrative? I presume you've never in your whole life said domething you regret and then apologised. I presume also that in your family veryone is perfectly pleasant all of the time and if they arent they are turfed out.
Have you even read all of OP's posts?

😂😂😂

Yes thank you.

the7Vabo · 19/12/2024 22:40

LondonPapa · 19/12/2024 22:26

From the sounds of it, it is her house and you’re allowed to stay there. Not it’s her house too, it is her house.

You need to make it very clear it is her home and they should compromise. From what you’ve written throughout this thread, they’re the arseholes along with you, not DSD. You really need to start making it up to DSD and forcing your children to engage productively. You can lead the charge considering your own behaviour towards DSD.

And I hope for your sake, you don’t suggest DSD stays in a hotel again.

I think you need to divest the investment and buy a house for your DDs that you can also move into if something happens to your DH.

Bollihobs · 19/12/2024 22:42

AquaAnsie · 19/12/2024 20:42

Can I just say, I do like DSD, I've gone with DH to visit her before without my kids and I do appreciate that she is genuinely smart and I never said she didn't work hard.
I will thank everyone here for pointing out that I pander to my DDs too much, TBH i think I've spent so many years defending them that I've lost perspective. I find Christmas really tense and that definitely doesn't help.
DSD is also much like the girls I was intimidated of when I was younger and I probably pass that to my kids. Maybe I need therapy to be able to help my kids better.

OP I think you the 'tunnel vision' you've probably had with regards to your children's needs is starting to expand as you read everyone's comments - I do hope so anyway.

Of course all the things that upset your children upset you but as you've said, you need a bit of perspective.

If you were still living in that small terraced house noise from either or both neighbours may well occur, would you expect them to change for your children's comfort? Teaching your DDs coping strategies is ultimately going to help them more than saying "Shush!" to anyone who makes a noise they don't like!

And you really, really need to get some proper provisions in place for support for them - claiming UC is a much better long term plan then you and DH paying rent, what if the worst happened and you and DH are no longer around?

Take a deep breath and in the New Year take a step back and review things and go forwards with a better plan and a more practical approach for the long term. And yes, perhaps some therapy would be a good outlet. I think you've been carrying the stress and responsibility for your children's well being for such a long time, you need to offload some of that in order to reboot and help them transition to adulthood and the best lives they can have more effectively.

oakleaffy · 19/12/2024 22:44

@AquaAnsie Your husband’s daughter has been massively usurped- Can you not see it from her point of view?
Her Dad now has four step “children” and a new wife taking his attention from her.

You sound jealous of her success- She must be very bright and hard working to have got where she is, and as a “driven “ person probably can’t understand the daughters not working.

Your son she gets on well with, that’s a good thing.

Of course her room has her things in it!
it’s her home!!

I think you are being very unfair on her.
She has to now share her Dad with FIVE other people not related to her.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 19/12/2024 22:47

Quite a selfish post OP. It's all about you and your children, plainly.

Floppyelf · 19/12/2024 22:49

CountingDownToSummer · 19/12/2024 21:42

The more I'm reading this the more I don't think it's true. No stepmum and step sisters can be this bad.
All we need is for SD's boyfriend to arrive at the house with a glass slipper and it will have all the elements

after my post, having read all of the Op’s actual responses. I think so too.

handsdownthebest · 19/12/2024 22:49

Maybe it would be a good idea for you to take your DDs away for a couple of days so that the DSD can come back to her own home and spend a few days with her dad and her boyfriend?

sixtyten · 19/12/2024 22:51

user1492757084 · 19/12/2024 20:52

You have no choice but to be welcoming to your DSD in her own Dad's home. It is for a week.
She will grow up and hopefully more enlightened to how kind, or not, she is.
It is not okay for your daughters to stay in their rooms.
You should try to encourage them to socially progress and to cope with living with a slightly uncomfortable feeling in their stomach.
Perhaps next year they could try doing some volunteer work at the local thrift shop with you then do some shifts on their own.
Being socially more robust could enable your girls to get a job at Maccas or a cafe in the kitchen or at the supermarket or as a childcare assistant in a child care centre.
Take them out of their comfort zone more. Get them in to a swim group or a bush walking club, a community choir.
Work at helping your daughters become independent.

Consentrate on showing your daughters their DSS's positive points and that she is no longer the bully in the playgroud. Teach your daughters resilience.
Plan for a girly massage at a spa. Send your son and the boyfriend on errands and all of you women could chillax and calm down and relearn to trust each other.
I think your feelings of dislike towards DSD are rubbing off on your daughters.

Edited

So in other words OP and her DDs should be the ones to do all the adjusting with no change or compromise being required of the DSD? Not how life works. Well, not in a fair household anyway.

Isittimeformynapyet · 19/12/2024 22:57

LongDarkTeatime · 19/12/2024 18:19

Just wondering, could those who think it’s OK to play loud music, when visiting the place you grew up but is now the home of those who are noise sensitive, could you answer this question please?
If the disability was not ASD but mobility, eg needing a w-chair/lift/adapted bathroom. Would it also be ok for the DSD to block use of these physical aids?
If you see a difference between a need for physical aids vs a quiet environment, why? What is the difference?

OP didn't say she plays "loud" music, just that she plays music.

Physical aids don't stop other people from living normally.

DarlingSpaceDoggieBone · 19/12/2024 22:58

What a toxic nasty thread. Agree with the majority that OP is cruel and immature. I feel rather sullied having read all her petty selfish updates. Urg.

TwigletsAndRadishes · 19/12/2024 22:59

sixtyten · 19/12/2024 22:51

So in other words OP and her DDs should be the ones to do all the adjusting with no change or compromise being required of the DSD? Not how life works. Well, not in a fair household anyway.

The DSD has lost her mother then had a family of five move into her home when she was a teenager, four of whom have been bankrolled by her father ever since, and a house that would have been hers is now going to go to her father's wife upon his death and then be passed to his wife's children. Do you not think that's compromise enough?

Mirabai · 19/12/2024 23:00

sixtyten · 19/12/2024 22:37

I think that's a really naive assumption to make, that a certain type of person couldn't possibly be a bully. It really doesn't work that way.

I think it’s really naive to fall for the collective family narrative based on insecurity, inferiority and resentment that DSD was a bully.

Bulllying is something you would get fired from head girl, no question.

Why would OP ever dream of moving her kids into a house with a bully?

Betchyaby · 19/12/2024 23:01

TwigletsAndRadishes · 19/12/2024 22:59

The DSD has lost her mother then had a family of five move into her home when she was a teenager, four of whom have been bankrolled by her father ever since, and a house that would have been hers is now going to go to her father's wife upon his death and then be passed to his wife's children. Do you not think that's compromise enough?

With any luck the husband has enough noodle to ensure it goes to his DD.

calmandcollected101 · 19/12/2024 23:01

decorativecushions · 19/12/2024 19:45

I'm honestly so fucking sick of autism/other disabilities being used as an excuse for the dogshit behaviour exhibited by your daughters and yourself.

Your adult daughter getting 'scared' when your SD gets home is literally not your SD's issue. At all. Why do your daughter's issues get to dictate the way everyone else lives. Honestly I'm flummoxed by this. Honestly OP your total lack of self awareness is insane. I'm struggling to believe this is even a legitimate post.

Honestly, pull your head out of your arse and encourage your daughters to do the same.

Considering the circumstances I think your step daughter has been remarkably restained in her response to you and your four daughters moving into her home and turning her into an unwanted guest. I feel so sorry for her.

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