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Dreading step-daughter coming home

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AquaAnsie · 19/12/2024 15:45

DH and I have been together for 7 years, married for 3. He has one DD, she's 24. I have 4 DC, DS is 26 then DDs who are 25, 23, and 20.
My two middle DC have autism, they have always really struggled with socialising and my 23 and 20 year olds live at home, my 25 year old lives 5 minute walk away.
My children and DSD went to school together, she was a year below my eldest DD and a year above my middle DD. My DD's really struggled in school, which wasn't made any better by bullying. DSD was part of the group who did a lot of the bullying (all very sporty, very pretty, middle class girls picking on those who hadn't quite settled, were from lower income families). DSD claims she was never the one doing the bullying but my DDs really struggle when she is around.

My 23 year old really struggles with her autism, she hates it when DSD is here, basically never leaves her room, she is very intimidated by DSD. DD also struggles with routine changes massively and is easily overstimulated.
When DSD is here, she plays music all the time, goes out with her friends and comes back at 2/3 am (she isn't loud but DD is a light sleeper and this will wake DD up and scare her to the point she won't sleep again). My DS also puts on an act when she is here, tries to buddy up with her BF and basically ignores his sisters and says they have to grow up.

Over the years there has been a lot of back and forth. We went out a walk one year and my eldest DD was complaining she was tired and DSD loudly muttered "if you lost weight you wouldn't be tired", she apologised but DD is very insecure so this has stuck with her (DD is a size 14/16 so not exactly big or anything, but DSD is a size 6 and very judgy of any overweight). In an argument about 2 years ago she also shouted at my DD's "You need to grow up, get a real job and stop getting my dad to fund your life". This obviously left sour taste but she again apologised.

DSD has a bit of a superiority complex, she is an Oxbridge grad, now doing her training contract for a law firm in London making crazy money for a grad (she's a couple years behind other her age on average as she did a gap year then a year abroad at uni). She looks down on my family as my DDs didn't go to uni (well DS did and he is the only one she actually gets on with).

On Sunday she and her boyfriend are coming back for a few days, they've only been dating since spring and her dad has met him but none of the rest of us have. As if DSD being home won't cause my girls enough stress, a total stranger in the house will make it 10x worse.

I just know their will be an argument, my DDs will get upset, DS will side with DSD as he thinks it makes him look smart.

DH never has any input, he thinks his DD can do no wrong, total princess in his eyes. He never outright agrees with her but he never tells her to say sorry or calls her out.

AIBU to be absolutely dreading her coming back even if it is just for 3/4 days? I find her so hard to be around at times!

OP posts:
Codlingmoths · 19/12/2024 21:38

Well done on listening op, it can be hard when it’s your children involved. I hope this Christmas goes better than expected and your children share perspective a bit more. Don’t be down on your ds for liking her either.

Mrswhatsit40 · 19/12/2024 21:40

MBL · 19/12/2024 21:33

Or someone is training an AI bot.
Agree that this cannot be real. No-one deliberately puts themselves in such a bad light.

Maybe OP is ND too and doesn't realise how she comes across, that crossed my mind.

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 19/12/2024 21:41

AquaAnsie · 19/12/2024 17:12

I suggest a hotel for DSD and DH said absolutely not, its her home and if she is coming home she will be welcome to stay here and in her own room.
DD2 doesn't do well away from home but DD3 can go to DD1's for a few nights.

I can’t believe you’d suggest that if it’s her childhood home and there’s a room.

CountingDownToSummer · 19/12/2024 21:42

The more I'm reading this the more I don't think it's true. No stepmum and step sisters can be this bad.
All we need is for SD's boyfriend to arrive at the house with a glass slipper and it will have all the elements

SorryEverAfter · 19/12/2024 21:42

I think this might have been a hard dose of reality for the OP, and it’s tough, but meant well.

I’m reminded of an 19 year old woman I met as part of my work, whose Mother had to attend her first appointment too, as she was too fragile to attend herself.
She asked for our help to get work, but was too fragile and incapable of working.
Her Mother came up with multiple reasons why she couldn’t possibly be expected to work full time, and could maybe manage some non taxing part time work.

Yet the daughter had driven to the appointment, and was going to take her Mother to the hospital for a checkup and go back and collect her, that wasn’t beyond her capabilities.
Nor was staying up all night playing on her X box and playing games into the small hours, after which her mother spent many hours in the morning, trying to get her to wake up !!

People have a warped view on reality sometimes.

I noticed today in the news that almost 50% of all households are now receiving more in benefits than they pay in tax.

OneWittySquid · 19/12/2024 21:43

You keep posting about your poor step daughter and your jealously oozes out every time you post about her career and prospects and education. You get the same respond everytime. I hope your dh sees sense and leaves. This most be the 3rd thread about her you've written.

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 19/12/2024 21:44

Christ. This is a situation of your own making.

Longwaysouth · 19/12/2024 21:45

Gosh, I have read the whole thread and I can't get over your attitude to your step daughter.
You and your daughters come across as very jealous.
I have DC who is Autistic and work with autistic young adults. They can misinterpreted interactions, can be jealous, and can lie. Just like non autistic people.
I too can be very protective of my DC but their feelings and behaviours don't trump others.
Yes,your family live full time in the house with your DH. Although, you point out that the house will be step daughters when your husband dies. Yet you don't want her to treat it as her family home!

Your comments about step daughter's bedroom and success in life is comes across with venom and jealousy. Of course her Grandparents can be proud of her.
She is a young woman who obviously has friends in the area and goes out, she likes to play her music.It is pretty acceptable behaviour.
Your daughter could wear ear defenders. I can't understand why you think it is odd that a young man speaks to his girl friend in his native language. She has a new boyfriend and wants to be with him at her family home. Most young ladies of 24 will have had several boyfriends.
Moaning that your daughters will not have a salary of 50K leaving univercity again is nasty. Very few graduates do!

Referring to her dead mother as his ex wife (they were still married) is very disrespectful.
Unless you made a typo about the lady dying in 2004, your step daughter was only 4. Yet, she still has made a success of her life. No empathy for a girl who lost her mum at such a young age. Now finds your family who seem to dislike her and resent her presence in family home.
At least your son is nice to her. You should be proud of him as it is very hard for siblings.

ramalamadingdonk · 19/12/2024 21:47

erm, isnt this the plot to the beginning of Cinderella?

AngelinaFibres · 19/12/2024 21:48

Itaverages · 19/12/2024 16:06

I can't get over the fact you married the father of one of your daughters school bullies knowing it would put the bully in her life forever and she's now having to deal with it in her 20s.

This. Absolutely horrendous.

jacks11 · 19/12/2024 21:48

YABU. I’ve no doubt that she has her faults, and hasn’t always behaved perfectly (to what extent, is less clear to me), but I don’t think that makes your actions acceptable either. I think she’s probably not quite the ogre you’d like everyone to think she is and you aren’t exactly the nicest step-mother either.

The bottom line is that your DSD deserves to be a part of her father’s life and to visit him if they both want that. If you cannot accept your DSD as a small part of your life (and it is a small one if she is only physically present for a few days a year) then that’s completely on you. I suspect you won’t make any changes, though, because it’s easier for you to allow her to be the villain than accept you all have your faults.

After all, you CHOSE to marry her father, in the full knowledge that she either bullied your daughters or was friends with those who did. If you could not stomach that, or her, you should not have continued the relationship (regardless of your daughter’s saying they’d be ok with it). But you did marry him, much to you and your children’s material gain, so now you have to either find a way to co-exist for the brief periods she is around, or temporarily remove yourself from the situation when she visits her dad. Or move on permanently.

If you genuinely love your husband, you would never seek to place a wedge between him and his daughter, however you might personally feel about her. Making her feel unwelcome in her own childhood home (one that you have moved into with the adult children who make it clear that they resent her presence there) and even asking him to support you in that, is an absolutely awful thing to do. Quite similar to bullying really, isn’t it? So, you are no better than the worst thing you think she might have done!

Did you actually expect your DH to agree to his daughter staying in a hotel rather than in his home because you and your daughter’s don’t like her? I think perhaps it’s not only the DSD who might have fooled those around them when it comes to their “true natures”.

As for your DSD, I am not clear whether she did or did not bully your daughter(s). Maybe your daughter is 100% accurate about her- but if you honestly believe this, why did you not address this in some way before making a permanent commitment to her father? Why did you as parents not try to get everyone to move forward in some way? Not necessarily all is forgiven, more that we accept that in this situation we all have to be able to comfortably tolerate each other if this is going to work? And if your daughter’s genuinely were not able (or willing) to do that, why would you marry her dad? How did you think that would possibly work?

I think that both your DSD and your DD could have their reasons for lying about the situation. Or perhaps neither your DD nor your DSD are intentionally lying, they just have different interpretations of those past events- the truth is could possibly be somewhere in the middle. For example, DSD friends with the bullies, perhaps not actively engaged in instigating anything/name calling etc but not trying to stop them either and she did join in the sniggering/laughing at something the bullies said or did on occasion. Not nice behaviour at all, though many of us will have done this at least once in our teenage years- I know I definitely have (not proud of it, but I don’t think it made me a major bully either who deserves ongoing censure). So, perhaps not as innocent as she is stating but not as bad as your DD has made out. Certainly not something to be punished for forevermore by being pushed out of her father’s life as far as possible. Your daughter(s) probably know that she wasn’t the instigator but (understandably) resent everyone involved. Your DD’s probably do dislike being around her because of the past and also perhaps there is some satisfaction at being able to confront/get at someone. Being autistic doesn’t mean your daughter can’t also get things wrong or do unkind things on occasion.

I’d also say to you- guilty or not, at what point is your DSD going to stop being unwelcome to you when it comes to an active place in her father’s life? At what point will she have sufficiently atoned for her adolescent/ young adult sins for you to decide to stop attempting to shut out of her father’s life as far as is possible, in order to make your lives easier?

I’d also suggest to you that she may not have found your family’s entry into her life pleasant or easy? She may not have been totally reconciled to your relationship with her dad (he has a right to a relationship, I’m not saying she is right to feel that way)- and I think you might reflect that this situation may have been hard for her too, you know? You and your children moved into the home she grew up in, moved in with her father and she may have felt a bit outnumbered- especially if you and your daughter’s were somewhat hostile towards her (overtly or not). She may have felt pushed out of her dad’s life to an extent, in favour of you and your family (however wrongly) and lashed out at times.

I could be wrong, but you mentioned an inheritance paying for the house and it sounded like her mum may have passed away (reading between the lines) and if that is the case, I think it is not hard to see why she might not have been thrilled with the situation- especially if she sees her dad massively financially (and possibly emotionally) supporting your children whilst they and you actively resent her presence in her own home/father’s life. She may feel pushed out by you all moving in- or feel that her dad has started to put your DD’s needs first. Perhaps, if viewed in that light, a few outbursts and snide comments are unwarranted but not inexplicable or unforgivable. And the examples you have given of her being unkind were some time ago- nothing recent mentioned. If that is the case, I think you do need to leave it in the past, especially as she apologised at the time.

Her comments towards you daughter about sponging off her dad and needing to grow up are unkind- but she is right that her father is funding your daughters’ lifestyles to a far greater extent than you are (and presumably far more than their actual father)- with no end in sight- maybe that worries her? It does sound like he gives them substantial support, more than you could have done without him, and perhaps more would be usual for the spouse who came into adult step-children’s lives when they were very late teen/young adults. Ultimately, that’s your DH’s decision as it’s his money to do with as he wishes, and your DSD’s issue to come to terms with, but I’m not surprised she isn’t thrilled by it. From her perspective, it could look like you’re a bit of a gold-digger who is trying to push her out for the benefit if you and your children (and if any of that may have come in the form of an inheritance due to the loss of her family- mum or even grandparent, for example, then it would sting even more. She may not be correct, but her prejudices and her assumptions about you are no worse than your attitude towards her.

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 19/12/2024 21:49

Longwaysouth · 19/12/2024 21:45

Gosh, I have read the whole thread and I can't get over your attitude to your step daughter.
You and your daughters come across as very jealous.
I have DC who is Autistic and work with autistic young adults. They can misinterpreted interactions, can be jealous, and can lie. Just like non autistic people.
I too can be very protective of my DC but their feelings and behaviours don't trump others.
Yes,your family live full time in the house with your DH. Although, you point out that the house will be step daughters when your husband dies. Yet you don't want her to treat it as her family home!

Your comments about step daughter's bedroom and success in life is comes across with venom and jealousy. Of course her Grandparents can be proud of her.
She is a young woman who obviously has friends in the area and goes out, she likes to play her music.It is pretty acceptable behaviour.
Your daughter could wear ear defenders. I can't understand why you think it is odd that a young man speaks to his girl friend in his native language. She has a new boyfriend and wants to be with him at her family home. Most young ladies of 24 will have had several boyfriends.
Moaning that your daughters will not have a salary of 50K leaving univercity again is nasty. Very few graduates do!

Referring to her dead mother as his ex wife (they were still married) is very disrespectful.
Unless you made a typo about the lady dying in 2004, your step daughter was only 4. Yet, she still has made a success of her life. No empathy for a girl who lost her mum at such a young age. Now finds your family who seem to dislike her and resent her presence in family home.
At least your son is nice to her. You should be proud of him as it is very hard for siblings.

This. I feel very, very sorry for the stepdaughter and I think he has made a terrible mistake…

MildredSauce · 19/12/2024 21:50

ramalamadingdonk · 19/12/2024 21:47

erm, isnt this the plot to the beginning of Cinderella?

No. Cinderella's stepmum let her dsd live at home!

MiddleParking · 19/12/2024 21:51

AquaAnsie · 19/12/2024 20:42

Can I just say, I do like DSD, I've gone with DH to visit her before without my kids and I do appreciate that she is genuinely smart and I never said she didn't work hard.
I will thank everyone here for pointing out that I pander to my DDs too much, TBH i think I've spent so many years defending them that I've lost perspective. I find Christmas really tense and that definitely doesn't help.
DSD is also much like the girls I was intimidated of when I was younger and I probably pass that to my kids. Maybe I need therapy to be able to help my kids better.

I find it absolutely insane that any mother could be jealous, or even condone jealousy, of a young girl who lost her mother as a child. That really isn’t normal. How shallow to envy her her looks and popularity at school in light of that. It must have been horrific for her. It must be horrific for her now.

TriptoTipp · 19/12/2024 21:52

ramalamadingdonk · 19/12/2024 21:47

erm, isnt this the plot to the beginning of Cinderella?

Yes indeed - its panto season.......

OolongTeaDrinker · 19/12/2024 21:52

The DH of the OP sounds like a saint - I hope he will come to his senses and realise what toxicity and poison he has brought into his child's life.

Moveoverdarlin · 19/12/2024 21:53

I wouldn’t say to your daughters ‘This is step-daughter’s home too’. I would amend it to ‘This was step-daughter’s home LONG before it was ours. And it will solely be hers one day. We’d all do well to remember that.’

loveyorkshiredales · 19/12/2024 21:56

I found this thread really sad. I feel sorry for SD and OP's children. OP you should have never sold your previous house and should have prioritised your children as they have high needs. You have not only spoiled your DDs routine and comfort by moving them into new surroundings and now you're spoiling SD's comfort zone , her childhood house. what's happening in the family because of your own decision- making.

ioveelephants · 19/12/2024 21:56

Hellskitchen24 · 19/12/2024 20:04

Wasn’t there another post really similar to this recently? Where the daughter was the only child of the father, and the OP couldn’t stand the step daughter because she was “spoilt” but also academic and had a really good job. The mother also died and left an inheritance to her. Not sure if this is the OP under another name or what.

My answer to these blended families that don’t get on is….what do you expect? I’d be totally put out if my dad remarried and moved a new family in with him, especially if it was really obvious the mother and daughters hated me. Equally it’s not fair on your poor daughters being made to deal with her school bully!

Yes I remember that. Reading the OP's updates I've been thinking it's her also.

Est1990 · 19/12/2024 21:57

AquaAnsie · 19/12/2024 21:16

I do owe her an apology you are right, my girls do to. The times she has been a little mean she has apologised.

Thank you for helping me realise I was being self absorbed.

Maybe not necessarily an apologie but definitely to put on 'someone else's shoes'.

Looks like DSD is succeeding in life despite losing her mum so young.
The same way you have an explanation for all your children behaviours...maybe you should think that DSD being slightly rude or entitled could have to do with her past, maybe it's a coping mechanism at times.

You have a DH that is supporting your ADULT kids a lot...you might inherit a house too...I think making an effort to understand and be patient with DSD for a few days is the minimum you can do.

And your DH must be very patient...I would go mental if you asked if my daughter could stay in a hotel rather than her family home🤯

Coconutter24 · 19/12/2024 21:57

AnonymousBleep · 19/12/2024 18:55

Plus even a couple of expensive holidays wouldn't touch the sides of supporting three (four including the OP) adults who don't work/only work part-time and clearly not high paid work, including paying the rent for one of those. He's paying far, far more for the OP and her adult children than he is for his own child.

Exactly. OP sounds like she takes for granted all that her DH contributes

NonPlayerCharacter · 19/12/2024 22:02

If you truly believed that your SD bullied your daughter to the point that your daughter remains affected by it, you wouldn't have made them stepsisters who have to share a home.

Teamlux · 19/12/2024 22:07

I know it’s in the past but I couldn’t have dated him in the first place with the bullying connections presuming that happened first. Could your dd benefit from therapy around the bullying. I feel for his dd a bit that a whole load of people have moved into her home and she just wants to spend time with her dad. But she shouldn’t be rude. But your dh has allowed you all to move in so I think you need to accept her. I would if possible book a few things for you and your children who live with you to do so he can have space with his dd. Christmas light trails etc? So you aren’t having to all be together as clearly it doesn’t work to well.

MrsJoanDanvers · 19/12/2024 22:13

I feel sorry for the SD to be honest. And she sounds like a daughter to be proud of. Can’t you get past the jealousy and appreciate that she lost her mum then her dad got with someone who has kids with additional needs who don’t have proper jobs so need money from her dad-I’m surprised she’s as nice as she is tbh. My ex got with someone who had kids with learning difficulties-my daughter used to be sad that she could never see her dad by herself and have special time with him-there were always her kids there having meltdowns and needing attention-she felt unwanted in what should have been her house. I’d speak to your daughters and tell them that within reason your sd can do what she wants in her own house and they need to suck it up.

Mirabai · 19/12/2024 22:14

I don’t buy the bullying myself. Someone who is head girl, really academic, wants to be a lawyer, is not that likely to indulge in that kind of behaviour. It sounds more like it was girls in her friendship group. DSD outright stated that she was never the one doing the bullying and also that DD knew that wasn’t true. I believe her personally.

It’s clear that OP and her whole family feel inferior, insecure around her, and struggle with confidence in general. I wonder how much OP’s kids are egged on by her own resentment.