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Dreading step-daughter coming home

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AquaAnsie · 19/12/2024 15:45

DH and I have been together for 7 years, married for 3. He has one DD, she's 24. I have 4 DC, DS is 26 then DDs who are 25, 23, and 20.
My two middle DC have autism, they have always really struggled with socialising and my 23 and 20 year olds live at home, my 25 year old lives 5 minute walk away.
My children and DSD went to school together, she was a year below my eldest DD and a year above my middle DD. My DD's really struggled in school, which wasn't made any better by bullying. DSD was part of the group who did a lot of the bullying (all very sporty, very pretty, middle class girls picking on those who hadn't quite settled, were from lower income families). DSD claims she was never the one doing the bullying but my DDs really struggle when she is around.

My 23 year old really struggles with her autism, she hates it when DSD is here, basically never leaves her room, she is very intimidated by DSD. DD also struggles with routine changes massively and is easily overstimulated.
When DSD is here, she plays music all the time, goes out with her friends and comes back at 2/3 am (she isn't loud but DD is a light sleeper and this will wake DD up and scare her to the point she won't sleep again). My DS also puts on an act when she is here, tries to buddy up with her BF and basically ignores his sisters and says they have to grow up.

Over the years there has been a lot of back and forth. We went out a walk one year and my eldest DD was complaining she was tired and DSD loudly muttered "if you lost weight you wouldn't be tired", she apologised but DD is very insecure so this has stuck with her (DD is a size 14/16 so not exactly big or anything, but DSD is a size 6 and very judgy of any overweight). In an argument about 2 years ago she also shouted at my DD's "You need to grow up, get a real job and stop getting my dad to fund your life". This obviously left sour taste but she again apologised.

DSD has a bit of a superiority complex, she is an Oxbridge grad, now doing her training contract for a law firm in London making crazy money for a grad (she's a couple years behind other her age on average as she did a gap year then a year abroad at uni). She looks down on my family as my DDs didn't go to uni (well DS did and he is the only one she actually gets on with).

On Sunday she and her boyfriend are coming back for a few days, they've only been dating since spring and her dad has met him but none of the rest of us have. As if DSD being home won't cause my girls enough stress, a total stranger in the house will make it 10x worse.

I just know their will be an argument, my DDs will get upset, DS will side with DSD as he thinks it makes him look smart.

DH never has any input, he thinks his DD can do no wrong, total princess in his eyes. He never outright agrees with her but he never tells her to say sorry or calls her out.

AIBU to be absolutely dreading her coming back even if it is just for 3/4 days? I find her so hard to be around at times!

OP posts:
Jifmicroliquid · 19/12/2024 20:21

AquaAnsie · 19/12/2024 20:18

I probably have pandered a little, but with 4 kids and a useless ex I didn't have much in the way of resources, it was often easier to just keep the peace. When my middle child is uncomfortable it is miserable for everyone involved, and I don't find saying no music or home before she sleeps is that much of a bother.

Then you need to help your middle child manage their emotions. You have no right to demand that other people don’t music and that they must be home before your DD sleeps. Have you heard yourself?? Your daughter is an adult, not a toddler!

Honest to god, I do wonder about some people.

Orangelight23 · 19/12/2024 20:21

You married the father of your children's bully and now there are problems. What a shocker.

Manypaws · 19/12/2024 20:21

Perhaps it would be better for your DD if you both moved out then you can ensure her needs are met, expecting everyone else to do that is ridiculous

AquaAnsie · 19/12/2024 20:22

the7Vabo · 19/12/2024 20:21

If you have a house why does DH need to pay rent for one of your DC? Do you not feel a bit self conscious around DSD about not paying towards the house & on top DH paying one of your children’s rent?

i sold that house and invested the money when I moved in with DH. Our finances are all what DH has suggested.

OP posts:
OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 19/12/2024 20:22

AquaAnsie · 19/12/2024 20:12

Just to clarify, no I haven't posted before.

Perhaps I am over protective of my DDs, I hate seeing them stressed and uncomfortable, maybe that isn't bringing out the best side of me.

Why is it ok for DSD to be rejected and stressed and uncomfortable in her own home, but not your DD’s? They sound like a nightmare, tbh. You haven’t helped them be able to cope with life; they want everyone to adjust around them, cause autism.

ThisIcyHare · 19/12/2024 20:22

AquaAnsie · 19/12/2024 16:02

The issue is no one else see's that she is actually quite mean and bitchy. DH's parents act like she poops rainbows and every time we run into anyone in our town who know her, it's "oh you must be so proud, she's so smart, talented and gorgeous too!"
DH and I have spoken about it but his view is that she shouldn't have to walk on eggshells in her "home" (she grew up here my kids obviously didn't). I don't think saying don't go out late and if you want to listen to music use earphones is walking on eggshells. He thinks my DD's sometimes seek drama by complaining but they are genuinely struggling not just complaining for fun.

She shouldn’t have to walk on eggshells in the house she grew up in, that 3 of your children live in. Would a gentle white noise machine help your daughter overnight to block out the noise? Something nice like soft rain. Could your daughter wear headphones to block out noise whilst music is being played? I understand that autism is challenging to manage, but for 3-4 days, over Christmas, your stepdaughter does deserve to come home and enjoy herself. Siblings can be mean to one another, I’ve got 4, and 2 of them hate each other, one is nasty to the other, the other doesn’t retaliate, it’s crap, but shes a mean girl who has got away with it for too long.

Hazylazydays · 19/12/2024 20:23

OP your husband must be an absolute saint.
I just don’t know how you have the nerve to keep criticising his beautiful, educated daughter for daring to want to come home to her own house, with her own Dad for Christmas.
You are so arrogant in your replies you can’t see the wood for the trees, wake up and look at yourself and your family.
I hope she puts you all on your place and that he supports her one hundred percent.

Girlking · 19/12/2024 20:23

Itaverages · 19/12/2024 16:06

I can't get over the fact you married the father of one of your daughters school bullies knowing it would put the bully in her life forever and she's now having to deal with it in her 20s.

☝🏻

Unicorntearsofgin · 19/12/2024 20:23

AquaAnsie · 19/12/2024 20:21

It was a lot for my DD, we've spoken about it since and on his subsequent visits she handled it better but we live in a small rural town, she hadn't actually met anyone whos first language wasn't english before this and none of my DDs have been abroad to experience it.

This is still not for your step daughter to have to handle. You aren’t doing your daughter any favours here.

Ilovelurchers · 19/12/2024 20:23

AquaAnsie · 19/12/2024 20:18

I probably have pandered a little, but with 4 kids and a useless ex I didn't have much in the way of resources, it was often easier to just keep the peace. When my middle child is uncomfortable it is miserable for everyone involved, and I don't find saying no music or home before she sleeps is that much of a bother.

Asking someone to listen to music with headphones when their are people with sensory issues in the house, isn't an unreasonable request (though better to ask your husband to speak to his daughter himself I would think - will he?).

Asking her not to go out at night does seem really very restrictive though. She is an adult, you have moved into her childhood home. She only comes back for short periods of time (as is normal) and presumably wants to catch up with her old friends, etc.

Do you honestly feel it is right for you to limit that, on the few days a year she gets the chance to do it, because of your daughter's sleep patterns?

Ask her to be as quiet as possible when getting back in, sure. But imposing a curfew? That seriously seems fair to you?

CountingDownToSummer · 19/12/2024 20:23

Op do you honestly think it's ok to ask an adult to be home before your DD is asleep, due to the fact you've pandered to her as it was easier for you as ok?
Can you really not see how it is wrong on so many levels?

AquaAnsie · 19/12/2024 20:23

Manypaws · 19/12/2024 20:21

Perhaps it would be better for your DD if you both moved out then you can ensure her needs are met, expecting everyone else to do that is ridiculous

Her needs are met perfectly well every other day of the year. The time where DSD is here is made extra hard by it being christmas (already overstimulating) and DSD disrupting routine.

OP posts:
bigbird1234 · 19/12/2024 20:23

I bet there's so much to this story we're not hearing.

It was only after another (frankly crazy) poster suggested DSD stay at a hotel over Christmas, that OP admitted she already had. That is one of the meanest things I've ever heard.

What else have you said/done, if you think this is acceptable?

PS I don't agree that with people saying DSD was one of the bullies.

However that weight comment was really really nasty.

Your poor DH, he's got himself in a right pickle!

DarlingSpaceDoggieBone · 19/12/2024 20:24

It reminds me of the thread where the step mother said she's uncomfortable about her 17 year old step daughter sitting on her dads lap at a family event. Same posting style, similar number of kids and zero insight. There's nothing stranger than folk.

Could even be a bot. Who knows these days.

CountryGirlInTheCity · 19/12/2024 20:24

Perhaps I am over protective of my DDs, I hate seeing them stressed and uncomfortable, maybe that isn't bringing out the best side of me.

Gently, you need to learn to live with the discomfort you feel when they are uncomfortable and also to help them to find coping strategies when life isn’t just as they’d want it. I know it’s hard when we see our children struggle, but supported struggling is what helps us to build resilience and coping strategies. Smoothing the way so that everything is as they would always want it is disempowering for them. There’s self esteem and life skills to be had by working through things you find hard. My DSis has been amazed at what her ASD and ADHD DD has managed with the right level of support and in some cases a bit of a push. If your DDs think you will always make life better for them they will believe that they don’t have it in themselves to do so.

Manypaws · 19/12/2024 20:25

Perhaps you and DD should move out for Christmas then, use some of your investment money while DSD enjoys HER home

UndermyShoeJoe · 19/12/2024 20:25

At their ages now you really need to teaching and helping them learn coping techniques.

No it’s not fine to tell a 20 odd year old you must be home for 10pm in what is also their home just because one person sleeps lightly.

It’s not ok to just say no loud music ever.

She’s barely there as it is. Your daughter can comfort 4 days even if it was every month. She needs to learn to cope with things she doesn’t like and find techniques that help her cope. Such as white noise, noice cancelling headphones. Maybe you also need to take her out more if someone not speaking English is such a big deal as well.

BoundaryGirl3939 · 19/12/2024 20:26

You seem to have such a victim mentality. So unreasonable. Yet you are trying to push your stepdaughter out of her childhood home and paint her as a villain. Wow.

I dont believe she bullied you daughter either. Her name was never mentioned to you so i cant see her being a contender. Your daughter probably has the same victim mentality as you do.

pinkyredrose · 19/12/2024 20:26

Well you and your kids are benefiting from her dead mothers money so you're all just going to have to accept step daughter visiting. Or move out.

Manypaws · 19/12/2024 20:26

Must be a wind up, no one is this arrogant

DarlingSpaceDoggieBone · 19/12/2024 20:26

AquaAnsie · 19/12/2024 20:23

Her needs are met perfectly well every other day of the year. The time where DSD is here is made extra hard by it being christmas (already overstimulating) and DSD disrupting routine.

OP, you know that your husband's dd WILL be staying at the house. Rather than moaning on MN, why don't you go away on a mini holiday with the daughter who isn't coping. Or realise that the situation isn't fair on anyone and move into your own place so you can ensure your grown up dd's comfort at all times.

lionloaf · 19/12/2024 20:27

AquaAnsie · 19/12/2024 20:23

Her needs are met perfectly well every other day of the year. The time where DSD is here is made extra hard by it being christmas (already overstimulating) and DSD disrupting routine.

“DSD disrupting routine”

You are so nasty to this girl! It’s her house!

Shetlands · 19/12/2024 20:28

AquaAnsie · 19/12/2024 20:18

I probably have pandered a little, but with 4 kids and a useless ex I didn't have much in the way of resources, it was often easier to just keep the peace. When my middle child is uncomfortable it is miserable for everyone involved, and I don't find saying no music or home before she sleeps is that much of a bother.

It's not a bother to you but your middle child is an adult who needs to have strategies to cope with other people leading normal lives. If noise upsets her then she needs noise-cancelling earphones not the expectation that other people will live silently and come home early.

You say if she's uncomfortable it's miserable for everyone else - that has to stop! Her discomfort isn't anyone else's problem, it's her own so get some help for her to manage adult life or how is she ever going to function without you?

UndermyShoeJoe · 19/12/2024 20:28

lionloaf · 19/12/2024 20:27

“DSD disrupting routine”

You are so nasty to this girl! It’s her house!

Indeed. How about dsd had a lovely
life with her father in a happy home till a step mother and four disruptive children moved in and made everyone walk on egg shells…

another1bitestheduck · 19/12/2024 20:28

Onlyonekenobe · 19/12/2024 18:44

I’ll answer this.

I don’t think it’s acceptable for anyone in a shared space to play loud music unless at a party, and even then there’s a limit. So that’s my starting point.

If DH raised his DD in a home where this was okay, his choice.

If DSD is playing loud music when others are present and don’t like it, that’s inconsiderate. She has to suck up not getting what she wants - not because of the DDs’ autism, but because that’s what anyone should do around anyone else.

But consideration cuts both ways. The DDs are also sharing space with others. They also have to accept a degree of discomfort. It comes with communal living, as it does for DSD. Being noise sensitive means you turn the volume down to 5 instead of 7. It doesn’t mean turning it down to zero.

If the DDs are unable to accept ANY degree of discomfort, they’re not able to live in shared spaces. Period. The onus is on them to not live in someone else’s home but rather find somewhere suitable for their needs. This is for them and them only.

Blocking access to eg an adapted bathroom is a completely different issue. It’s access, to a bathroom. This is about ablutions, dignity, hygiene, inconvenience, basic human right to clean water for bathing and a degree of privacy. It’s much more than a question of periodic discomfort. It’s all or nothing. A better parallel would be a wheelchair user normally having exclusive access to her bathroom versus now having to share it meaning she’ll have to change her daily routine/ hold it/ share eye-level shelf space, hang towels elsewhere etc.

Theres no difference between physical and mental disability from this perspective. A disability of any sort simply doesn’t automatically and fully trump everybody else’s needs and wants and desires. Everyone has to compromise, the able bodied (physically or mentally) more than those who are less able. It’s just common decency.

apart from anything else, OP hasn't actually said the SDD plays her music loudly - the problem just seems to be that she dares to play it at all!
Which does raise the question of whether her poor DH is allowed to make any noise at all in his own home, if they are that sensitive.