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to be annoyed at so much racism re “the boat people”

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NavyOrca · 19/12/2024 01:11

A large hotel local-ish to us (around 10 miles away) is currently closed for bookings as it is being occupied by just under 400 asylum seekers.

Recently, in our village and a couple of neighbouring ones, there has been a spate of parcels being stolen from doorsteps. I’m sure you can all work out who has taken the blame for this….! Even though one of the perpetrators is known to be a local lad, born and bred in our village, some people are still blaming others..

The comments on Facebook community groups are disgusting.

Since when has it been acceptable to so readily stick the blame upon those literally fleeing their countries?

I honestly feel that as a human race, we are devolving.

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username299 · 22/12/2024 14:17

TENSsion · 22/12/2024 14:15

The uk doesn’t record this. They won’t record whether the perpetrator of a crime is an asylum seeker. Germany do. They’ve found them to be over represented 6 times for sex crimes.

The issue isn’t that there is no risk. The issue is that we aren’t allowed to even know the risk.

I politely asked you not to respond to my posts.

TENSsion · 22/12/2024 14:17

username299 · 22/12/2024 14:17

I politely asked you not to respond to my posts.

You’ve also lied. Which isn’t very polite, is it?

inamarina · 22/12/2024 14:20

username299 · 22/12/2024 14:13

What evidence? Where does it say that asylum seekers in the UK are more of a danger to women than any other men?

PP provided data from Germany, do you think it’s insignificant? Or do you just ignore it because it’s from different country?

TENSsion · 22/12/2024 14:21

inamarina · 22/12/2024 14:20

PP provided data from Germany, do you think it’s insignificant? Or do you just ignore it because it’s from different country?

She ignoring it because it proves her wrong.

username299 · 22/12/2024 14:22

inamarina · 22/12/2024 14:20

PP provided data from Germany, do you think it’s insignificant? Or do you just ignore it because it’s from different country?

We're talking about asylum seekers in the UK. If you have evidence that asylum seekers are more of a danger to women than any other men, I'd like to see it.

TENSsion · 22/12/2024 14:25

username299 · 22/12/2024 14:22

We're talking about asylum seekers in the UK. If you have evidence that asylum seekers are more of a danger to women than any other men, I'd like to see it.

THE UK DOESN’T RECORD THIS INFORMATION.

This does not mean that we are somehow receiving much kinder and gentler, undocumented men.

username299 · 22/12/2024 14:26

TENSsion · 22/12/2024 14:25

THE UK DOESN’T RECORD THIS INFORMATION.

This does not mean that we are somehow receiving much kinder and gentler, undocumented men.

Please stop responding to my posts. Many thanks.

TENSsion · 22/12/2024 14:29

username299 · 22/12/2024 14:26

Please stop responding to my posts. Many thanks.

Absolutely shameful

inamarina · 22/12/2024 14:30

username299 · 22/12/2024 14:22

We're talking about asylum seekers in the UK. If you have evidence that asylum seekers are more of a danger to women than any other men, I'd like to see it.

Do you think the male asylum seekers coming to the UK are an entirely different demographic than the ones in Germany?

This article in the Independent seems to support PP‘s claim about lack of data on crimes perpetrated by asylum seekers in the UK:

„There’s no evidence these figures reflect the current crime rate among asylum seekers in the UK, though official data is limited and neither the Office for National Statistics (ONS) nor the Home Office publish equivalent UK figures.“

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/google-ons-home-office-office-for-national-statistics-wikipedia-b2667936.html

username299 · 22/12/2024 14:30

TENSsion · 22/12/2024 14:29

Absolutely shameful

I'd be grateful if you could stop responding to my posts.

TENSsion · 22/12/2024 14:31

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Luminousalumnus · 22/12/2024 14:39

They are at best 400 impoverished young men living all together. And 400 young men living together are always a pain in the arse. Young men being responsible for the vast majority of crime. These guys are statistically more like to turn to crime that random men due to poverty and historic trauma. Is anyone disputing this??

PatheticDistraction · 22/12/2024 14:42

Australia do a decent job without killing people.

...I don't think their indigenous population would agree.

TENSsion · 22/12/2024 14:49

PatheticDistraction · 22/12/2024 14:42

Australia do a decent job without killing people.

...I don't think their indigenous population would agree.

Why would their indigenous people be trying to get into Australia via boats?

PatheticDistraction · 22/12/2024 14:49

Joelle84 · 22/12/2024 09:23

“Fleeing their country” from what? Why are they all men? Where are the women and children?

One family I worked with were Syrian, their father had been tortured and killed under the Ba'athist government. ** At the time I worked with them 12 million Syrians lived under severe food insecurity.

fedup33 · 22/12/2024 15:13

RingoJuice · 22/12/2024 11:34

Pushback to France/departure origin. It saves lives in the long run. Letting them land in the UK just incentivizes the whole thing, which you well know

How exactly would you push back a family to Sudan?

fedup33 · 22/12/2024 15:14

username299 · 22/12/2024 14:22

We're talking about asylum seekers in the UK. If you have evidence that asylum seekers are more of a danger to women than any other men, I'd like to see it.

Oops! There is none! fancy that.

inamarina · 22/12/2024 15:19

fedup33 · 22/12/2024 15:14

Oops! There is none! fancy that.

„There’s no evidence these figures reflect the current crime rate among asylum seekers in the UK, though official data is limited and neither the Office for National Statistics (ONS) nor the Home Office publish equivalent UK figures.“
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/google-ons-home-office-office-for-national-statistics-wikipedia-b2667936.html

Do you think that means there is no crime being committed?

Fact check: Misleading Google search results on UK asylum seeker crime rate

Full Fact has seen what appear to be screenshots of Google results on this topic shared on social media in recent months.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/google-ons-home-office-office-for-national-statistics-wikipedia-b2667936.html

fedup33 · 22/12/2024 15:22

Do you think that means there is no crime being committed?

But I don't think I need to lock up my Grand daughter or stop her walking to school.

inamarina · 22/12/2024 15:28

fedup33 · 22/12/2024 15:22

Do you think that means there is no crime being committed?

But I don't think I need to lock up my Grand daughter or stop her walking to school.

That‘s for you to decide. Doesn’t mean there is no crime though 🤷‍♀️

fedup33 · 22/12/2024 15:37

How silly there is crime everywhere, risk everywhere.

Ian Huntley?

inamarina · 22/12/2024 15:41

fedup33 · 22/12/2024 15:37

How silly there is crime everywhere, risk everywhere.

Ian Huntley?

So you won’t ever do anything to mitigate risk?

TENSsion · 22/12/2024 15:48

There was a full enquiry into Ian Huntley which resulted in policy changes to hopefully prevent it from happening again or at least lower the risk.

Interestingly, they found that a huge factor in what happened was the lack of documentation and sharing of information. Which brings me back to this point. Why do you think 400 undocumented men are safe?

https://www.virtual-college.co.uk/resources/public-inquiry-holly-wells-jessica-chapman

fedup33 · 22/12/2024 16:39

Huntely and his friend had every possible document going. Anyway enough,, it's horribly disrespectful to the families.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 22/12/2024 16:42

fedup33 · 22/12/2024 16:39

Huntely and his friend had every possible document going. Anyway enough,, it's horribly disrespectful to the families.

Why did you bring him
up then?

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