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to be annoyed at so much racism re “the boat people”

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NavyOrca · 19/12/2024 01:11

A large hotel local-ish to us (around 10 miles away) is currently closed for bookings as it is being occupied by just under 400 asylum seekers.

Recently, in our village and a couple of neighbouring ones, there has been a spate of parcels being stolen from doorsteps. I’m sure you can all work out who has taken the blame for this….! Even though one of the perpetrators is known to be a local lad, born and bred in our village, some people are still blaming others..

The comments on Facebook community groups are disgusting.

Since when has it been acceptable to so readily stick the blame upon those literally fleeing their countries?

I honestly feel that as a human race, we are devolving.

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Petrasings · 19/12/2024 06:13

Of course no one is going to be happy with this situation op. It’s not sustainable either. The pp who say they will all be NHS doctors within a year are deluded. Quite frankly. And usually live hundreds of miles from anything like this so can afford to lecture from lofty heights, their attitude will soon change when it starts to impact them (which it will)

PerditaLaChien · 19/12/2024 06:14

400 young men from different culture being housed near you with no income?
Can you not see why it might be confusing to long lived local people?

This, but also why does arriving on a boat as an illegal immigrant entitle access to often a better quality of emergency accommodation than we provide to struggling families born here?

Petrasings · 19/12/2024 06:17

I might also add 99% are economic migrants not ayslum seekers. Please don’t conflate the two, you are doing a huge disservice to genuine asylum seekers.
Most have travelled from a very safe country (France or Belgium) and are not at risk.

Jellytrain · 19/12/2024 06:21

I hate this racism too. In my town there's a similar hotel but people really like the refugees because they are quiet and don't get drunk like previous hotel occupants! Why do you think they are all men? They are not! And even if they are majority men, what's the problem? My friend volunteers with these refugees and says that are lovely and what they've been through is horrendous. They are human like you!

Tinselskirt · 19/12/2024 06:22

Rubytuesday77 · 19/12/2024 02:18

You actually think it’s racist to object to hundreds of young men plonked in hotels often in areas right near to a school? many of whom haven’t even come from a war torn country. Meanwhile our own homeless ignored and refused the privilege of a warm bed for the night.

How much do you do for "your own homeless"?

Fuck all, i imagine.

I've been living very near accommodation for male asylum seekers for 2 years or more. They've never done me any harm. It's not up to me to decide whether they should be there or not. Its also not up to me to help "our own homeless" blah blah, who people only claim to care about when they can whinge about asylum seekers.

Jellytrain · 19/12/2024 06:22

PerditaLaChien · 19/12/2024 06:14

400 young men from different culture being housed near you with no income?
Can you not see why it might be confusing to long lived local people?

This, but also why does arriving on a boat as an illegal immigrant entitle access to often a better quality of emergency accommodation than we provide to struggling families born here?

Proof??? Actual proof not Daily Mail?

Jellytrain · 19/12/2024 06:23

DingDongVerilyOnHigh · 19/12/2024 01:20

Ok.

But!

400 young men from different culture being housed near you with no income?

Can you not see why it might be confusing to long lived local people?

Why should it be the local scrote rather than the unlocal scrote?

Who said they were all young men?

bozzabollix · 19/12/2024 06:24

I’m also disgusted OP. These are the hideous racist types who’d have been complaining about Jewish refugees from Germany in the Second World War. I live in Kent and there are people here on social media who will get this subject into literally anything. Bad roads? Blame immigration. Car accident somewhere blocking a major road? Has to be an immigrant. They are obsessed.

Meanwhile on the coast fishermen are dragging these people out of the water, sticking blankets round them and listening to their stories. They’re the least racist around. One told me about fishing out an eighteen month old with tears in his eyes, before then saying he’d leave Nigel Farage in there for demonising these people so much.

Nigel Farage, should you ever read this, don’t do too much on the English Channel, you won’t be guaranteed much help.

Racists, why not actually meet some refugees? It’s not good for you physiologically to be full of so much hate, meeting them would make you realise they are just people often with awful stories. It’d do you good.

Jellytrain · 19/12/2024 06:24

Rubytuesday77 · 19/12/2024 02:18

You actually think it’s racist to object to hundreds of young men plonked in hotels often in areas right near to a school? many of whom haven’t even come from a war torn country. Meanwhile our own homeless ignored and refused the privilege of a warm bed for the night.

Yes I do!! Who said they are young men and paedophiles (is that the school worry?) I'm glad as a rich country we are helping these poor people, you should be too. Do some volunteer work and meet them, they are not scary!

Tinselskirt · 19/12/2024 06:25

Petrasings · 19/12/2024 06:17

I might also add 99% are economic migrants not ayslum seekers. Please don’t conflate the two, you are doing a huge disservice to genuine asylum seekers.
Most have travelled from a very safe country (France or Belgium) and are not at risk.

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So should we just refuse to take any asylum seekers because we are an island? How does that work then?

Jellytrain · 19/12/2024 06:25

Tinselskirt · 19/12/2024 06:22

How much do you do for "your own homeless"?

Fuck all, i imagine.

I've been living very near accommodation for male asylum seekers for 2 years or more. They've never done me any harm. It's not up to me to decide whether they should be there or not. Its also not up to me to help "our own homeless" blah blah, who people only claim to care about when they can whinge about asylum seekers.

This!!

glassof · 19/12/2024 06:28

Where does the op say its 400 men?? (OK I get that it is often single men, but have you ever thought why?)

I work as a health visitor in a local hotel housing asylum seekers. Up to 500 people. They are all families. No single men.

The replies on here are so uneducated.

Buttonmoon45 · 19/12/2024 06:31

Jostuki · 19/12/2024 06:10

If they are fleeing their countries why didn't they stay in France where they are safe?

Why are so many of them not actually fleeing any kind of persecution whatsoever but want to come to the U.K. because they have heard of the benefit system and think our streets are paved with gold?

Exactly, France isn’t a war torn country.

Annabella92 · 19/12/2024 06:32

Sloelydoesit · 19/12/2024 02:46

I'm also fed up with the right wing rhetoric and the constant mention of asylum seekers who make up a very small percentage of immigration numbers.
We have got more important stuff to worry about

We actually really don't. Migration is a very serious matter in the UK today. About as serious as it gets for a country.

Knulp · 19/12/2024 06:32

its not racism, it has nothing to do with the colour of their skin, they could be snow white coloured Romanians, it would not make any difference.

If a working class family moves to a middle class neighborhood, and parcels start to go missing, everyone will blame the working class family, that is not racism.

If two lesbians decide to move to a nice genteel village and as a consequence the daughter of the local post master decides to come out as gay, everyone will blame the new arrivals.

Truth of the matter is anything different will always be blamed for any possibly unrelated effect, its ingrained human nature.

I can see why people fleeing poverty and war should be given sanctuary and help, and I can see why people of the host nation should be upset at the distribution of resources, its a tough argument, but even if you take the refugee aspect out of the argument, there are plenty of UK born residents that claim benefits far in excess of what a lot of people earn, why blame the individual for claiming what the law says they are entitled to, refugee or not, blame the system .

MaryBeardsShoes · 19/12/2024 06:32

Tinselskirt · 19/12/2024 06:22

How much do you do for "your own homeless"?

Fuck all, i imagine.

I've been living very near accommodation for male asylum seekers for 2 years or more. They've never done me any harm. It's not up to me to decide whether they should be there or not. Its also not up to me to help "our own homeless" blah blah, who people only claim to care about when they can whinge about asylum seekers.

Absolutely spot on. People who bleat on about “we should help are own” are always the ones who do fuck all in their own community.

TankFlyBossW4lk · 19/12/2024 06:40

DingDongVerilyOnHigh · 19/12/2024 01:23

And!

Why is the underprivileged young man that lives near you and less deserving than the underprivileged young man that came from 2,000 miles away?

Why?

But the op isn't saying this. No where does she state that the perpetrator is "less deserving". You've inferred your own upset ....

Vodkalimeandlemonade · 19/12/2024 06:43

Is it me or is there a huge amount of utter naivety on mumsnet?

Most normal people in real life can grasp the problem with huge amounts of men (because yes it is mainly men) from different cultures, with nothing to do being housed within our communities.

The level of virtue signaling on here is sickening and seems completely at odds with most people’s opinions in real life!

Katemax82 · 19/12/2024 06:43

ThisCosyAquaHiker · 19/12/2024 02:39

What does anything in your reply have to do with the OP's post?

It's not about bloody race!

TankFlyBossW4lk · 19/12/2024 06:44

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@DingDongVerilyOnHigh
This is just misandrist rubbish

DingDongVerilyOnHigh · 19/12/2024 06:46

TankFlyBossW4lk · 19/12/2024 06:44

@DingDongVerilyOnHigh
This is just misandrist rubbish

Misandrist rubbish?

Sure it is bucko.

SwerveCity · 19/12/2024 06:49

It’s scary the amount of people who think these MEN arriving illegally in boats are all fleeing from persecution.
I live locally to the recent horrific murder of a woman by one of these “poor” men. A news story that seemed rather hushed up quickly to not cause much tension.

CatsndtheBear · 19/12/2024 06:49

Rubytuesday77 · 19/12/2024 02:18

You actually think it’s racist to object to hundreds of young men plonked in hotels often in areas right near to a school? many of whom haven’t even come from a war torn country. Meanwhile our own homeless ignored and refused the privilege of a warm bed for the night.

Absolutely nailed it.

SometimesCalmPerson · 19/12/2024 06:50

DingDongVerilyOnHigh · 19/12/2024 01:23

And!

Why is the underprivileged young man that lives near you and less deserving than the underprivileged young man that came from 2,000 miles away?

Why?

Because he is already known to have stolen and broken the law, despite having had access to education and opportunity for employment. There are no laws preventing him from working legally.

The asylum seeker has none of this.

DingDongVerilyOnHigh · 19/12/2024 06:52

TankFlyBossW4lk · 19/12/2024 06:44

@DingDongVerilyOnHigh
This is just misandrist rubbish

You do know that misandry isn't a thing.

Don't you?

If any fucker cites misandry. It reminds me of my rapes.

But yeah, sure.

Misandrist rubbish.

Whatever.

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