to be annoyed at so much racism re “the boat people”

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A large hotel local-ish to us (around 10 miles away) is currently closed for bookings as it is being occupied by just under 400 asylum seekers.

Recently, in our village and a couple of neighbouring ones, there has been a spate of parcels being stolen from doorsteps. I’m sure you can all work out who has taken the blame for this….! Even though one of the perpetrators is known to be a local lad, born and bred in our village, some people are still blaming others..

The comments on Facebook community groups are disgusting.

Since when has it been acceptable to so readily stick the blame upon those literally fleeing their countries?

I honestly feel that as a human race, we are devolving.

“Home Office data tells us that of those who made the journey last year:

• 7 in 10 were adult men
• 1 in 10 were adult women
• 2 in 10 were children”

But you also have to consider that some of those documented as children could actually be adults.

https://www.refugeecouncil.org.uk/information/refugee-asylum-facts/understanding-channel-crossings/

And what exactly do you do to help people other than sit in your warm cosy home complaining about people who have nothing. Let's hope and pray WW3 doesn't happen because imagine brits having to seek asylum in other countries and being treated like this.

Brits will do what brits have always done, fight for their country and not run away like cowards leaving their wife's and children to be abused and left behind.

I appreciate your viewpoint without the racist undertone. Many others in here can't seem to get past race.

Oh please. All brits do is whine, complain and act entitled.

@Giselleb1 I guess your not British then 😂

Definitely British but can actually see what is happening and I don't blame the migrants.

This!!

You are woefully ignorant.

The Ottomans committed genocide against Armenians.

They took millions of slaves from Europe - primarily female sex slaves, and from Africa. The Ottoman Empire entirely revolved around slavery. Yet despite suffering this (HOW can you say there is no generational trauma?) former Ottoman countries in Europe are still first world developed nations.

Slavery existed all around the world throughout history - Western Europe were the first ones to end it. Britain didn't abduct slaves from Africa by the way: African war lords enslaved and traded their own neighbours. Wealthy Europeans purchased these slaves from Africans.

Britain ended this slave trade by buying the freedom of every single slave in the empire in the 1800's. We didn't pay back this huge national debt until 2014.

Incidentally, Arabs enslaved 4X more Africans than Europeans did, yet no one criticises them for their colonialism.

And yes Europe has generational and ongoing material trauma from Islam. For example, the word Barbarian comes from the Islamic invaders/colonisers of Italy and their notorious brutality.

As I mentioned previously and you haven't addressed, Cyprus, Malta and Ireland were colonised (and Ireland brutally suffered - they were subjected to a genocidal famine and people were shipped off to the Caribbean and America as slaves). Yet they are no different to us today in development. Neither is Singapore or Hong Kong.

You bleeding hearts whine just as much - about the precious feelings of male illegal immigrants.

I guess, for me, it's difficult. I do support the idea of asylum but I don't feel happy with how it's working at the moment. For instance, I'd be very happy for Afghan women to come here. Or Saudi women. The problem I have currently, is that there doesn't seem to actually be a system, just a kind of survival of the fittest race to set foot in the UK, with disproportionately fit young men getting here. And I don't want them to be prioritised, I want the truly vulnerable to be prioritised.

It seems to be the reverse of how an ethical asylum system should work- the strongest favoured instead of the most vulnerable.

@Giselleb1 I know you think the British are irredeemably racist and intolerant, but I guarantee, if asylum seekers were mostly women and children rather than young men, attitudes would be very different.

Britain didn't end slavery out of the goodness of their hearts - they ended it when it was no longer profitable. Stop trying to paint brits as some great saviours in the midst the their savagery. The trauma Africans suffer to this day is incomparable. Ireland, Cyprus etc are not still bring exploited to this day so what's the point of mentioning them. Everyone has had their hand in africa and it continues to this day. There are corrupt individuals everywhere and them selling slaves doesn't justify Britain's treatment of those slaves. You keep trying to use these false equivalences to justify what brits did.

I am annoyed at the amount of money the gangs that bring this people in make, without paying taxes or any similar.
I am annoyed at the amount of very dangerous illegal activity these gangs do, like money laundering, fake passports, slavery of the people they smug in, forced prostitution....
I am sick of the effects this influx is having on our foreign aid and our fully legal avenues for assylum seekers. We are sending less support to the millions displaced and in distress around the world. We have less space, if any, to accomodate refugees from the conflict areas themselves, where we stand a chance to actually identify them and bring children, women and injured to help them. As it is, the more vulnerable are left behind because they do not have the money to pay the gangs.
I am seriously concerned about the lack of space, as clearly demonstrated by the use of hotels, large ships and so on.
I am also concerned about not knowing who this people really are during times of high threat. There is no way to proper identify them.
I also share your concern about them becoming a scapegoat. And that they clearly are at present. It is indeed a worrisome fact. It happened during the summer riots and every single day. Whether they are guilty of some offences or not, people are jumping on them straight away. I do not think this will change any time soon and it is a rather volatile issue.

I hope that would be the case.

Not really. Just bored of the never ending racism.

I don't think that's quite fair. There was actually a strong, grass roots anti-slavery movement in the UK. There were demonstrations against slavery frequently in Britain in the late 18th and early 19th century. I honestly think you should look into it, it might leave you with a less depressing idea of the British.

Yes we did end slavery for moral reasons. Did you miss the part about the UK not paying off our national debt for freeing the slaves until 2014???? How is that profit-motivated. Engage both brain cells and give me one rational reason. We literally fought wars to free these slaves. That is a huge sacrifice that you will never understand and shouldn't dismiss.

Africans are primarily being exploited by Arabs and China but that doesn't fit your little "Brits are evil" narrative.

Good point.

Funny that if brits are so bad why do you live here? why are they so desperate to be here and how come we can build a civilised society when many others cannot?

Let's face it rather than build their own countries and change the workings of their corrupt systems they flee leaving their women and children behind and dump their ID in the channel.

It must be awful to live in a country which you despise so much and have such contempt for your fellow citizens. very sad, very sad indeed.

You mean because they are white and white people are superior? Amazing.

Don’t you watch the news - it’s been common knowledge for years that the migrants are living in hotels with everything paid for including free hospital and dental care. Whereas British homeless get nothing 😡

As a brit, I live in a country where I have contempt for racists. I actually like the non racist brits. And they might be able to build their own countries if the brits would stop constantly meddling in their affairs.