To be worried about what the Labour government will do next?

[Scenicgirl]

Let's be honest, Labour has been a massive disappointment for this country, pissing off the pensioners with taking away the WFA, the farmers, NI changes which impact employers, immigration etc and today refusing compensation to the WASPI women after they ridiculed the Conservatives when they didn't commit to a solution. Don't we deserve better than this constant shit show of lies and deceptions which were clearly spouted out purely to gain power?
For the 1st time in my life, I worry about where we are heading.

100% this.

Not worried in the slightest.
Actually feel rather chilled with this Government in charge, feels like proper grown ups, quietly getting on with things instead of the rabble rousing, shit stirring, culture war stoking lot we've just managed to get rid of.

Ermmm have you had too many Prosecco to remember the lies over the last 14 years ?!!

No-one apart from a few very rich men like Farage and Clarkson is bothered about the farmers paying some inheritance tax like everyone else. As for immigration, did you know that this government has deported many more illegal immigrants per month than the Tories did?

They have been left with an economy that is in an appalling state directly as a result of 14 years of serious mismanagement, to say nothing of nonsenses like Brexit. No-one was under any illusion that any government taking over was going to have to take some tough decisions and that inevitably the overriding need to raise taxes was never going to be popular. No-one can seriously believe the Tories would have done any better, and certainly the Reform manifesto shows they would bankrupted the country within a couple of weeks.

So tired of the Tory bots. The same old script, the same old title format. Get a proper job.

So if Starmer had said before the election that he would remove the winter fuel allowance from millions of pensioners, add inheritance to family farms and family businesses, council tax & energy price increases, raise university tuition fees, plaster mass-scale solar panels on thousands of acres of prime farmland despite huge local community objections, spaff £22bn of taxpayers’ money on carbon capture machines, give £3bn a year of taxpayers’ money to Ukraine, betray WASPI women, hang out with BlackRock, pledge a 20% cut in meat & dairy and get exposed for receiving over £100,000 worth of freebies - you would have been ok with that? He fooled the electorate. And still he lectures all of us in that gratingly sanctimonious manner of his that we are all somehow the problem here and he is "fixing" the country.

For the 1st time in my life, I worry about where we are heading.

I see. So you weren't worried when you had a Prime Minister who was prepared to let the bodies pile up, and couldn't be bothered to turn up at crisis meetings in the early days of Covid? You didn't worry when he was constantly caught out lying? Or when he pleaded guilty to a criminal offence? You weren't concerned when a government that knew Brexit would be disastrous called a referendum about it and then didn't bother to set the facts out properly for the electorate? Let alone at the horrendous mess they made in negotiating the Brexit agreement?

And I guess you thought that Truss tanking the economy overnight and then running for cover was no cause for concern whatsoever?

Because the Tories never lied? 😂

Oh, but that was fine because your Nan had a few hundred quid more to spend on Christmas presents and Farmers could dodge paying taxes?

Do me a favour.

No. Its tedious.

@Scenicgirl try harder

On the brightside all the Labour fanatics near me have shut right up about how wonderful life under Labour will be. I don't think it's going as expected. It's a bit of a relief tbh.

No.

I agree. The tories were a bloody nightmare. The fact that this person is claiming not to have been worried where we were heading with brexit says it all really. What about what they did to state education? The NHS?

So where are the specific lies then?

I'm actually broadly happy with the decisions taken. I'm in favour of means testing the WFA. I think supporting Ukraine is strategically necessary. I think the WASPI decision is right. He might not have covered stuff in the manifesto but it doesn't mean you've been able to cite specific lies.

Fixing the mess left behind by the last lot was never going to be easy.

Oh and I agree with the farmers being subject to IHT too.

The only this is that the hard left people are delighted and won’t bat an eyelid because what about the tories? You are not wrong OP people are exhausted. We still have not got the school bill with the added VAT. Waiting to see if I can buy some Xmas presents for my kids. The bastards threw the tax mid year and it seems it has been a nightmare to implement as well. I loathe these assholes who would destroy what is left in the name of their stupid ideology.

hard left people 😂😂

I feel insulted that this sort of disinformation is peddled non-stop on MN. How stupid do they think we are?

It's a lot to sort out in 5 months.

The shambles left by the previous government should be a cause of more gave concern.

Tony Blair’s advice to Keir Starmer was to do the unpopular stuff early on. He got three terms.

Boris Johnson thought he was going to get three terms though and look at how that turned out.

I wonder whether voters are becoming much more instant-outrage-prone. Maybe no government will ever serve more than one term in the future and we’ll keep boinging from one side to the other like the US.

My own view is it’s largely irrelevant. Governments can tinker round the edges but global events make the real difference to our economy and security.

Yep, as in, yes I would be fine with that. Money to save the country has to come from somewhere

We're between a rock and a hard place really. Tories were shit, this new right- wing labour are worse and loony reform will probably win the next election. God help us! Can't we have a government that works for the interests of the people of the country and not the globalists?
Brexit was not exactly the Tories fault. They told people not to vote for it.

I'm annoyed with Labour as someone in my 20s but not for the same reasons.
IHT is good, farmers loopholes closed is good.

However, I don't think they've gone far enough to make a real impact to people and I think reform might form a coalition government at this point

They’ve lied so much but they don’t gaf. They’ll get booted out soon enough but how much poorer will we all be by then.

Dunno, what with wage increases starting to rise quicker than inflation, you might find yourself better off.

Best buy a farm quickly, so you've got something to complain about.