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A nasty card given to child

303 replies

Ssvic · 14/12/2024 08:43

I just found a card tucked away in my daughter’s drawer. It says “no one likes you or cares about you”. She’s 9 years old. Schools have broken up so can’t talk to the teacher. I have the mums contact details as we are on class WhatsApp. I have never spoken to her. What would you do? Ignore and talk to school in January or send the mum a picture of the card? What would you do? I spoke to dd who got very quiet and said he’s naughty. I asked her if she would like me to tell the school
snd she said yes she’s never mentioned this boy before. Sorry for typos, my phone screen is not working properly

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Motherbear44 · 14/12/2024 12:11

Suitably non-accusatory. Good for you.

needlesandpinsa · 14/12/2024 12:11

Ssvic · 14/12/2024 12:04

I ended up messaging the mother! I took the message someone posted upthread.

I introduced myself and told her my daughter is in the same class as her son and she received this Xmas card (I put a photo of the message). I said I thought I’d let you know my daughter received this card and I’m wondering if anything has happened between the children. I wished her a merry Christmas and happy new year. She hasn’t responded yet. I’m glad I’ve done this because I can’t wait till January. Whatever her response is I’m glad I’ve done this.

Good on you for contacting her, If it was my child I would want to know and I could deal with it accordingly. You were dead right not waiting, your poor little girl receiving something so horribly nasty.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 14/12/2024 12:14

I think you did the right thing messaging the mother. I personally couldn’t have waited until the new year and the boy sending this card knew there’d be a gap between Christmas and January. Why should he have a lovely Christmas?

I was one of those children a bit like yours OP with 2 best friends but we had huge birthday parties at my house every year and I was friendly with all the other children in the class.

Babycote · 14/12/2024 12:17

Definitely contact the mum. School I'd tell as well, but more important to tell the mum. She will likely be shocked and it will be good to have time over the hols to work on things with her child. Telling school is too indirect, you can't be certain they'll tell the mum at all and in any case it will all take too long. Just be honest, empathetic and direct

Babycote · 14/12/2024 12:18

Whoops just saw you did!
Sounds like you sent a good message

CowTown · 14/12/2024 12:18

Just be prepared, @Ssvic . A boy destroyed some of my daughter’s property and I told the mum at the school gates. He burst into fake crying/wailing, and said he didn’t do it. She looked at me and said, “He says he didn’t do it.”

This mum may deny it.

StrawberryFlowers · 14/12/2024 12:19

Ssvic · 14/12/2024 12:04

I ended up messaging the mother! I took the message someone posted upthread.

I introduced myself and told her my daughter is in the same class as her son and she received this Xmas card (I put a photo of the message). I said I thought I’d let you know my daughter received this card and I’m wondering if anything has happened between the children. I wished her a merry Christmas and happy new year. She hasn’t responded yet. I’m glad I’ve done this because I can’t wait till January. Whatever her response is I’m glad I’ve done this.

I hope she doesn't try and say your dd was bullying him first. Some bully parents do that.

Gloriia · 14/12/2024 12:25

Ssvic · 14/12/2024 12:04

I ended up messaging the mother! I took the message someone posted upthread.

I introduced myself and told her my daughter is in the same class as her son and she received this Xmas card (I put a photo of the message). I said I thought I’d let you know my daughter received this card and I’m wondering if anything has happened between the children. I wished her a merry Christmas and happy new year. She hasn’t responded yet. I’m glad I’ve done this because I can’t wait till January. Whatever her response is I’m glad I’ve done this.

Well done op. I'm all for leaving it to school to sort when it's a he said/she said situation, but when you have clear proof of bullying yep always let the parents see exactiy what their dc have done. Hope your dd is ok.

aperolspritzbasicbitch · 14/12/2024 12:26

If the mother does respond saying that your daughter said/did something first then just say something along the lines of recollections varying, so you'll leave it to school to sort and then don't have any more contact with her.

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 14/12/2024 12:26

I don't think I could have waited weeks either. I would have done the same.
Merry Christmas 🤶

AngelicKaty · 14/12/2024 12:27

CowTown · 14/12/2024 12:18

Just be prepared, @Ssvic . A boy destroyed some of my daughter’s property and I told the mum at the school gates. He burst into fake crying/wailing, and said he didn’t do it. She looked at me and said, “He says he didn’t do it.”

This mum may deny it.

There's the hand-writing in the card. The other mum could only (rightly) deny it if the hand-writing isn't her son's.

TheTreeLightsAreFuckingMeOffNow · 14/12/2024 12:27

Wheresthebeach · 14/12/2024 09:55

Don’t contact the mum. Schools always ask parents to let the school deal with it as parents get defensive and things escalate.

id send an email to the teacher and copy in the person responsible for pastoral care with a photo of the card and let your daughter know you’ve done that. Ask for a meeting during the first week back to discuss the issues. Short and factual but create a paper trial.

Or in cases like mine the school does fuck all, so the parents have to get involved.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 14/12/2024 12:31

Jostuki · 14/12/2024 08:54

As the school has broken up I would directly contact the mother and send a photo of the card. Be factual,

Hello Deirdre, I'm Petunia's mother and your son Barnaby gave her this Christmas Card. I know I would want to know if my child has done something awful so I thought you should see it.

dont ask if your DD has done something awful.

OP I think you should email a photo of the card to the school. There may be staff there over the break, that's when they have training/meetings on certain days.

Id do this before contacting the other Mum. Advice Ive always had is to go through the school first. And let them contact the other mum.

Your Poor DD.
she wants you to tell the school.. can you have a look on their website, they should have published a policy on bullying which might help. Also there used to be a charity called Kidscape which has advice recourses you could look at.

Rinkytoo · 14/12/2024 12:31

Good on you for contacting the mother. Hopefully she’s decent enough to reprimand her child and respond to you.

ShaggyPutItOnWhatAPongItGaveHimTheShakesNShivers · 14/12/2024 12:35

But although she could produce evidence of her own DS's handwriting, if he is innocent, if he is the culprit, she's unlikely to volunteer anything to implicate him. Which is where school would come in useful, as they will have plenty of examples of his (and the other children's) handwriting.

Even so, he could have deliberately changed his handwriting and/or used his 'wrong' hand, depending on how devious and 'smart' he is.

OTannenbaumOTannenbaum · 14/12/2024 12:35

Ssvic · 14/12/2024 12:04

I ended up messaging the mother! I took the message someone posted upthread.

I introduced myself and told her my daughter is in the same class as her son and she received this Xmas card (I put a photo of the message). I said I thought I’d let you know my daughter received this card and I’m wondering if anything has happened between the children. I wished her a merry Christmas and happy new year. She hasn’t responded yet. I’m glad I’ve done this because I can’t wait till January. Whatever her response is I’m glad I’ve done this.

I think you've done the right thing seeing as the schools are closed and it may come across as "too late" by the time January came round. Hope your little girl has a lovely day and forgets about that horrible card

SneakyLilNameChange · 14/12/2024 12:37

Good for you OP. Waiting on her reply please share!

TheGrinchIsComingToTown · 14/12/2024 12:37

Put it in writing to the school as well, that way they have to tell ofsted what they're doing to counter this.

Your poor daughter. Please surround her with love and happiness this Christmas (not that I doubt you're doing that already, I'm sure you are!), and to be honest I'd look into moving schools

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 14/12/2024 12:38

Sorry I've just seen your update OP.
Understandable if you cant wait till January. I'd copy your message to the school in an email tho, so they know that you've dealt with it amicably.
I think your idea of distracting, and getting her together with a few friends is a really good idea as it will make the card seem much less important.
The link to Kidscape is https://www.kidscape.org.uk/advice/advice-for-young-people/
I hope you daughter has a lovely Christmas break, which will build her confidence for next term.

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Annony331 · 14/12/2024 12:38

Send an image to school.

There is always someone covering any safeguarding issues even in holidays. They will pick it up. I wouldn't approach the other family.

CowTown · 14/12/2024 12:39

AngelicKaty · 14/12/2024 12:27

There's the hand-writing in the card. The other mum could only (rightly) deny it if the hand-writing isn't her son's.

You’d be surprised how far some parents will go with the ‘my precious darlings would never set a foot wrong’ narrative.

Rosscameasdoody · 14/12/2024 12:40

PureBoggin · 14/12/2024 10:45

And what if it wasn't actually from the boy! What if another child wrote it to get him into trouble?

What if the boy is unhappy because he comes from an abusive home and by shaming the parents publicly, he gets a beating?

What if the boy is acting out because his mum has just been diagnosed with cancer and he doesn't know what to do with his fear?

I would say that you need to work on your conflict resolution skills and try to be less reactive. If your child experiences something similar in the future, your way of handling it would likely make things much, much worse.

Sorry, what ? The child can be identified from the handwriting.

The boy maybe unhappy for any number of reasons, and he may be ill, as you say. But neither of these scenarios are an excuse to make the school life of another child miserable through bullying.

I agree that posting it on WhatsApp isn’t appropriate in any circumstance, but neither is excusing the behaviour for any reason.

StrawberryFlowers · 14/12/2024 12:46

Contact the school as well now in case the mum tries to get in first and say your dd has been bullying him.

SilverChampagne · 14/12/2024 12:46

FungusTap · 14/12/2024 09:15

This.

If you go straight to the mum then she has time to prepare a defence.

There are only two possible reasons for that boy’s behaviour. Bullying little shits have usually fallen not far from the tree. Or, worse still, he’s repeating something that’s been said to him at home - and it is a particularly cutting remark. Either way the mother is going to be no help.

You sound a lovely mum, your DD is fortunate to have you.

Prepare a defence? Confused

OrtIrect · 14/12/2024 12:47

Sounds like you have done the right thing for your daughter.

I was upset when this happened to my child however some of the posters on here are just over the top. The kids are 9, not the fully formed product and so make mistakes and do stupid things Hopefully the Mum will deal with this now and, unless this is part of a consistent pattern of behaviour, no need to escalate further (OFsted?)