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PTA mum with bad attitude or AITA?

351 replies

Mama7 · 13/12/2024 16:36

School festive celebrations today after school being run by the PTA. They were selling hot drinks, sweets and crispy crème donuts with some songs performed by the school choir. Email clearly states that the celebrations start at 3:30 however all donuts (which were billed as the main event) were already sold by the time we got there at 3:25, 5 minutes BEFORE the celebrations were even due to start.
I asked if there were any donuts left and was abruptly told no, my autistic 6 year old started to cry as I’d promised her one (absolutely my mistake there!) I (politely) replied “oh what a shame, the email said it didn’t start until half past, there’s going to be some disappointed children” The PTA woman then went into a rant saying “if you don’t like it maybe you should volunteer for the PTA, source the donuts, collect the donuts, organise the event and it started at 20 past so you should have got here sooner!” I replied that I wasn’t criticising the PTA, just merely pointing out that the children who didn’t manage to get one would be disappointed and the email clearly says it starts at half past. She said NO, maybe it’s the choir that start at half past. I said “I'm not lying, I’d be happy to show you the email?” She then turned to another PTA woman where they were both clearly talking about me.
My bug bear (as well as being spoken to like an idiot) is that people were walking away with huge boxes fitting 12 donuts and other people just had disappointed kids to deal with. Surely there should be a limit to make it fair.?
Im considering writing to the head and asking them to consider having a limit per person next year to avoid this or AITA who should have managed my child and mines expectations better.?

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Lemonadeand · 13/12/2024 19:03

Who are you going to complain to, though? A group of volunteers!m? The school that benefits from the fundraising? Because probably they just won’t bother putting it on next year.

Could you not have told your child you would stop at the supermarket at the way home and buy them a donut if they were upset?

Mama7 · 13/12/2024 19:06

lola006 · 13/12/2024 18:16

I used to be a PTA chair. Events like this, especially right near Xmas, would almost bring me to tears because the money would roll in, we’d be on a high and then complaint after complaint after complaint would come through. Yes, she was rude and while I found people to vent to (DH, other pta parents, etc) maybe she’d just had enough.

If you’re up for joining the PTA, OP, maybe an idea would be to suggest people filling out a form ahead of time.

Thank you for this. They really do an amazing job. We raised £6,000 at the last event, half went to the school and half to the local children’s hospital. Such worthy events and the members and additional volunteers work so hard and are so appreciated, I’m sorry that that didn’t come across in my original post.
That’s a great idea, thank you 💜

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TheWayTheLightFalls · 13/12/2024 19:07

She's a volunteer, putting the event on in her own free time.

Poor planning by volunteers is still poor planning.

I don’t sit on the PTA committee but I offer my time at events and also lead some events (including bake sales). Yes it’s difficult ensuring there’s enough for everyone without masses of food waste but it is possible with planning. They screwed up.

Sodullincomparison · 13/12/2024 19:09

I don’t think the other people are even being greedy- they may think they are doing the school a favour by spending their money.

it’s a doughnut, a school fair and volunteers. Honestly you were unreasonable then and even more so That you want to speak to the head because you didn’t get a doughnut?

the Head puts a limit on and are you paying to cover any leftovers?

Mama7 · 13/12/2024 19:13

Danzdanzdanz · 13/12/2024 18:26

So, did you offer to go down the shop and purchase more donuts for the event? Or went on mumsnet to complain about it?

fss
I am so tired of people complaining without offering help! Did you forget that all PTA members are volunteers trying to do something for the school for FREE

I didn’t offer that no, I was focussed on my child. I absolutely should have,
you’re completely right.
I didn’t forget that, no. And that wasn’t my point of the post (it was about figuring out how to stop having disappointed children and not liking being talked to aggressively) but judging by some
of these responses I haven’t done a good job of explaining that. Maybe I was too focused on giving all the details rather than my actual point.
For that I apologise. Please see my previous replies if you care to hear my thoughts on the PTA as a whole.

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Mama7 · 13/12/2024 19:15

BeAzureAnt · 13/12/2024 19:01

But it is Krispy Kreme! 😁

OP, let it go.

I already have 💜 thank you

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Mama7 · 13/12/2024 19:16

JMSA · 13/12/2024 18:29

Donut even consider emailing the Head about this.

😂😂 👏🏼

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Mama7 · 13/12/2024 19:17

quantumbutterfly · 13/12/2024 18:31

If your recounting is fair, sounds like she was the one being an arsehole. Sounds poorly planned & executed by the adults in the room.

She sounds less resilient than your 6 year old to have given you all that for a simple comment. Is there history between you?

Thank you. Of course, 3 sides to every story and all that but an honest account from my end.
Other than friendly passing playground/event smiles, nothing.

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GravyBoatWars · 13/12/2024 19:19

My god let it go. She’s a volunteer. Your passive aggressive remark was absolutely not needed and it’s ridiculous to get huffy that she didn’t appreciate it.

If you think you can manage these events better then step up and offer your time.

Madloves · 13/12/2024 19:19

Storm in a teacup.

ShillyShallySherbet · 13/12/2024 19:20

I expect you weren’t the only person to complain and she was just stressed and defensive. The people buying up huge boxes of them are the most unreasonable in this scenario.

Mama7 · 13/12/2024 19:22

ItOnlyTakesTwoMinutes · 13/12/2024 18:32

Your comments were so unnecessary when this woman is already stressed and organising a big event for the school. She doesn’t need to deal with the fact that she’s disappointed loads of children and feel guilty on top of her work load (that she’s doing for free). Think before you speak.

Whilst that was honestly not my intention i do understand that that is how she could have felt. I’m sorry for that.
I really do try to and i seriously don’t like using the ‘ND’ card but that’s often easier said than done for me.
Im admittedly a 40 year old work in progress.

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beenwhereyouare · 13/12/2024 19:22

Eyresandgraces · 13/12/2024 16:44

So pleased my dc are adults.
Dh and I have both done stints on the PTA and would never have dreamed of being so rude and we absolutely would have worked out donuts based on each dc buying one.
Your PTA have messed up this time.

But they're Krispy Kreme!

GreenWheat · 13/12/2024 19:23

TheWayTheLightFalls · 13/12/2024 19:07

She's a volunteer, putting the event on in her own free time.

Poor planning by volunteers is still poor planning.

I don’t sit on the PTA committee but I offer my time at events and also lead some events (including bake sales). Yes it’s difficult ensuring there’s enough for everyone without masses of food waste but it is possible with planning. They screwed up.

So what if they did? They're volunteer parents with busy lives, it happens. People are human, no need to berate them at a stressful time for it.

Mama7 · 13/12/2024 19:25

ThatIsNotMyNameSoWhyAreYouCallingMeThat · 13/12/2024 18:48

Thanks. Nearly drove me insane trying to find vegan/dairy and soya free and gluten free chocolate treats for the Easter bunny to give out, but managed to find some that were bunny shaped like the malteaser ones.

Every disco had snacks suitable for all. I would contact the parent of any child with a serious allergy (eg nuts) to check that the snacks I was getting would be suitable for them.

It made life a lot harder (and supplies more expensive) but seeing every child able to participate and enjoy fully made it worth it every time. It’s part of the school ethos (they don’t organise a prom because they don’t want anyone feeling they have to spend money they don’t have on an expensive events, for example. Parents organise proms themselves.). And it meant we made more money overall because nobody had to stay at home.

(I work in HR - true inclusiveness is hard work but worth it.)

Please know your inclusivity is so hugely appreciated 💜 you sound amazing!

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Vaxtable · 13/12/2024 19:26

Jellie00 · 13/12/2024 16:39

Couldn't even dream of getting worked up over a donut.

and this comment tells me you don’t have small children who would be very disappointed

TheaBrandt · 13/12/2024 19:26

You’ve gone from “I’m going to complain to the head” to all nicey nicey 🙄

FKAT · 13/12/2024 19:28

Just want to point out that the job of the PTA is to raise funds for the school. It's not to act as substitute teachers / TAs, provide pastoral care or promote inclusion. It's nice if they do that, but really not the main aim.

I remember that once our head got a complaint about the PTA being drunk at the summer fair. The head immediately sent a scathing email to the school about how she would not stand for nasty gossip and criticism of PTA volunteers. So the complainant got a result, but not the one they wanted.

TheWayTheLightFalls · 13/12/2024 19:32

GreenWheat · 13/12/2024 19:23

So what if they did? They're volunteer parents with busy lives, it happens. People are human, no need to berate them at a stressful time for it.

I’m not berating them. In my world if you take on a task you do it properly, whether or not it’s a paid role. They didn’t. And I’m speaking having run what sounds like an identical event. It’s fine for a parent to (perhaps more politely/later than the OP) question what happened. How many donuts did they buy? How many kids in the school? What time does selling start? How many can each person buy? What do we do with any leftovers? Etc.

Mama7 · 13/12/2024 19:33

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 13/12/2024 18:48

I was about to join the pile in and say YAB(V)U and the arsehole. But have read your sweet considered responses where you take posters' constructive comments on board . And now think, well, you were being unreasonable in your original reaction (and TA) - but now you're not as you've reflected and thought further

Thank you, i appreciate this 💜
I wouldn’t have made the post an AITA if I wasn’t prepared to be told I am.
You live and learn ey

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dontstopthe · 13/12/2024 19:33

I agree it's really annoying for you and your child but I've been on the receiving end of angry parents at PTA donut stall and after the third or so person you do really feel like saying eff off.

I had bought and decorated donuts been told off by the after school club and parents for them selling out too soon and it just makes you think what is the bloody point.

If you buy too many they are wasted and a loss to the school so you can't really win.

I got shouted at and spoken really rudely by someone at our school summer fair for not putting a school mums small business in a more prominent place too and I wanted to just tell her to bloody do it herself and join the PtA if she wasn't happy. I've got a full time job three children and one of which is disabled and I'm doing this to try and raise money for an underfunded school don't bloody shout at me!!

Loloj · 13/12/2024 19:34

The PTA lady sounds like she was a bit rude but being a member of the PTA is a pretty thankless role and she may have had the same thing said to her already - having made the mistake of not buying enough donughts. The PTA is just volunteers trying to raise money for the school so maybe cut her some slack. They probably didn’t anticipate people buying 12 donughts in one go so weren’t prepared to say “no not allowed” - next year they will probably do it differently. You could have just bought your daughter a donught on the way home.

Mama7 · 13/12/2024 19:35

TheaBrandt · 13/12/2024 19:26

You’ve gone from “I’m going to complain to the head” to all nicey nicey 🙄

You mean I’ve taken the criticism on board, accepted my own wrong doings and endeavoured to do better? Thank you 💜

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quantumbutterfly · 13/12/2024 19:36

Mama7 · 13/12/2024 19:16

😂😂 👏🏼

Doughnut😁(fighting the good fight for English spelling)

DetestTheClockChange · 13/12/2024 19:38

I agree with them. If you don't like how things are done, either volunteer yourself or suck it up.

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