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To think this mother should be ashamed of herself

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2boyzNosleep · 11/12/2024 19:57

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly2zq1yl0ko

17yr old girl & 18 yr old boy hook up on holiday in Dubai. I believe they may have met over there. The girls mother finds messages on the girls phone when they return to the UK. The mother reports the guy to Dubai police. He gets arrested as sex with anyone under 18yrs is illegal in Dubai. He has now been sentenced to 1 year in prison.

I haven't looked into it much, as far as I can tell it was consensual, a charity called Detained in Dubai have been trying to help (legally I think).

Am I alone in thinking how bloody spiteful the mother is?!? The girl is 17 years old and I think in another report saw that she turned 18 shortly after returning.

Marcus Fakana in school uniform

Marcus Fakana: Briton, 18, sentenced over Dubai sex with girl, 17

Marcus Fakana has been sentenced for a year over the relationship, a campaign group in Dubai says.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly2zq1yl0ko

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SavingTheBestTillLast · 11/12/2024 22:04

StrikeForever · 11/12/2024 21:58

He was 18 when arrested

He was 18 when the act was committed.
She was young for the year as she was still 17, most kids in that year would already have reached 18. It was the UK school summer hols

Hesonlyakidharry · 11/12/2024 22:05

UndeniablyGenX · 11/12/2024 20:10

Out of interest, would people's responses be the same if this had happened in the UK and he was 16, she was 15?

We wouldn’t care. A 16 year old and a 15 year old doing what 16 and 15 year olds are doing all over the country? No one goes to prison for that here.

Feelingathomenow · 11/12/2024 22:05

Pink39tree · 11/12/2024 21:54

Being familiar with this culture, sadly this would have definitely been a conversation that would have been had.

Sorry, have I missed something- I thought the girls identity was secret - or has it been leaked?

MerryChristmasYaFilthyBrusselSprout · 11/12/2024 22:05

MumWifeOther · 11/12/2024 21:57

Stop it!! I’m guessing you’re white? His parents would have known that girl had racist parents who would frown upon their 17 year old daughter engaging in casual
sex with a black boy. And if they didn’t, and they have been living under a rock, they need to wake the f*ck and do better to protect their young black sons!

Are you saying you know 100% that they would be racist because of what race/culture they are?

MumWifeOther · 11/12/2024 22:06

Ger1atricMillennial · 11/12/2024 22:00

  1. Doesn't mean he would follow your teaching... horse to water an all that.
  2. Teenagers frequently rebel agains their parents teaching.
  3. He did all the due dillegence that teenagers would do... she was in the same year as him at school.

We don't know what Marcus' parents taught him, but they have now had to return to the UK leaving their son in jail. You would have to be incredibly cold hearted and unrealistic to think that they were in any way responsibile for this.

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They have a duty to protect their son. Which they have failed to do so. He said in a statement they knew about her but her parents couldn’t know about him.. they know they were in a strict Muslim country and should have familiarised themselves with the local laws. I am quite confident that I would have intervened had this been my son. I don’t think they’re responsible, but I think they should have done better. The woman who reported him is undoubtedly a total b*tch but her culture is her culture and one that is complex.

andIsaid · 11/12/2024 22:06

I feel terrible for Marcus.

I feel terrible for his parents.

I feel terrible for the girl.

I feel terrible for her parents.

We do not know what happened.

We are making an awful lot of assumptions.

MumWifeOther · 11/12/2024 22:07

MerryChristmasYaFilthyBrusselSprout · 11/12/2024 22:05

Are you saying you know 100% that they would be racist because of what race/culture they are?

I’m saying it was very obvious given the girls race and her being open that her parents could not know about the boy. It doesn’t take a genius to figure it out.

StrikeForever · 11/12/2024 22:08

SuperfluousHen · 11/12/2024 21:18

no, she didn’t break any law.

What part of THEY WERE BOTH 17 are you getting stuck on?

Ger1atricMillennial · 11/12/2024 22:08

ChangeyerNameyer · 11/12/2024 22:04

Could you imagine the outage there would be if people from the US carried guns in the UK because it’s legal back home? Or 16 year olds from the Isle of Man drove on English motorways? Or is 14 year olds from Mali were getting drunk in London because they can in their country? If you do to another country you should respect their laws, even if you don’t like them and it’s different at home. And they went to Dubai. It’s not exactly known as a bastion of liberality, open mindedness and sexual freedom. Hopefully people who hear about this case will think twice about going on holiday to Dubai (or any other country they don’t want to respect the laws of).

You are missing the point of the outrage.

People are angry because someone dobbed him in, which has ended up in a jail sentence for him.

There are plenty of people in Dubai breaking this law, just like there are plenty of tourists in the UK breaking drug laws. You would have to be an incredibly motivated and vindictive individual to contact the authorities in another country to report this incident, especially as the girl in this respect was a few weeks shy of it not being illegal.

She has unnecessarily caused another family incredible pain and suffering because she is a straight up bitch angry that her daughter didn't follow her cultural beliefs.

MumWifeOther · 11/12/2024 22:10

Feelingathomenow · 11/12/2024 21:59

WTAF. Why would they have known the parents were racist? Are you saying every interracial relationship involves a set of racist parents?

Are you seriously going to sit here and tell me that they aren’t? That this wasn’t part of their dissaproval?

You clearly have no idea how rampant racism is.

MerryChristmasYaFilthyBrusselSprout · 11/12/2024 22:10

MumWifeOther · 11/12/2024 22:07

I’m saying it was very obvious given the girls race and her being open that her parents could not know about the boy. It doesn’t take a genius to figure it out.

Her parents couldn’t know about him because he was a boy and obviously the potential of them having sex not because he was black.

RawBloomers · 11/12/2024 22:11

ThatRareUmberJoker · 11/12/2024 21:54

That depends on how they see it especially if they are both telling the authorities it was consensual. I wouldn't be so confident.

It doesn't depend on how they see it.

Sex outside marriage is no longer a crime in the UAE.

The girl hasn't done anything illegal.

MerryChristmasYaFilthyBrusselSprout · 11/12/2024 22:12

andIsaid · 11/12/2024 22:06

I feel terrible for Marcus.

I feel terrible for his parents.

I feel terrible for the girl.

I feel terrible for her parents.

We do not know what happened.

We are making an awful lot of assumptions.

Why do you feel terrible for her parents, out of interest?

LuluBlakey1 · 11/12/2024 22:13

2boyzNosleep · 11/12/2024 19:57

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly2zq1yl0ko

17yr old girl & 18 yr old boy hook up on holiday in Dubai. I believe they may have met over there. The girls mother finds messages on the girls phone when they return to the UK. The mother reports the guy to Dubai police. He gets arrested as sex with anyone under 18yrs is illegal in Dubai. He has now been sentenced to 1 year in prison.

I haven't looked into it much, as far as I can tell it was consensual, a charity called Detained in Dubai have been trying to help (legally I think).

Am I alone in thinking how bloody spiteful the mother is?!? The girl is 17 years old and I think in another report saw that she turned 18 shortly after returning.

More to this than we know.

SavingTheBestTillLast · 11/12/2024 22:13

I can’t remember who I was supposed to tag.
MN re NT

NT properties are seriously lacking in loads of toddlers
When ours were young it was us. That’s it.
After a few visits and near misses with Louisxiv furniture we took out membership of English Heritage.
Why
Because everyone knows they have the castles which are more exiting. They also sell swords so kids can run around like loonies leaving parents to have a cup of tea.
Nt hand out questionnaires for small kids, English Heritage do dress up.

Yummy mummies are not well known for doing NT….ever

MumWifeOther · 11/12/2024 22:13

MumWifeOther · 11/12/2024 22:10

Are you seriously going to sit here and tell me that they aren’t? That this wasn’t part of their dissaproval?

You clearly have no idea how rampant racism is.

And by the way, I’m half of an interracial relationship with a black man and I have a dad who’s Middle Eastern… I understand this culture.

I have two black boys and you can bet that should we be holidaying in Dubai, and they meet a girl of a Middle Eastern / Asian descent, and she makes it clear that she is LYING to her parents about her whereabouts and that they cannot know about my son… I’m going to assume they’re a) racist b) potentially dangerous. And I’m going to do everything in power to keep my boys far, far away. At least while in dubai anyway where it’s illegal.

SuperfluousHen · 11/12/2024 22:15

StrikeForever · 11/12/2024 22:08

What part of THEY WERE BOTH 17 are you getting stuck on?

The information I have is that he was 18 (adult) and she was 17 (minor) which is why he has been prosecuted, and is now in jail.

Raindropskeepfallinonmyhead · 11/12/2024 22:17

petedicks · 11/12/2024 20:25

What a cunt.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Username056 · 11/12/2024 22:17

I am hopeful that back channel conversations will be held, he will be pardoned by someone high up and home in a few weeks. Maybe for Christmas. That’s what I am very much hoping. He has learnt a very hard lesson here sadly. I do believe that there is racism here. And that racism is coming from the girl’s mother.

PiggyPigalle · 11/12/2024 22:17

It seems that seven went on the holiday but they all left him to it.

SavingTheBestTillLast · 11/12/2024 22:17

MumWifeOther · 11/12/2024 22:10

Are you seriously going to sit here and tell me that they aren’t? That this wasn’t part of their dissaproval?

You clearly have no idea how rampant racism is.

It could just as easily be just about sex before marriage.
We know that was an issue in their culture.

another1bitestheduck · 11/12/2024 22:18

StrikeForever · 11/12/2024 22:08

What part of THEY WERE BOTH 17 are you getting stuck on?

what part of where people have repeatedly asked you where you got this from are you getting stuck on?

You are right in that if this was the case it would change the circumstances. However all the reports I have read say that he was 18.
e.g.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd7nwnw1e32o -
"This is clearly just a case of two older teenagers, both of them now the same age, who have been caught up because a mother reported the behaviour."
as in, they weren't the same age when the sex took place but the girl has (as confirmed in the same article) since turned 18.

If you do have any proof to support what you're saying, share it or stop yelling at people that they are wrong without any evidence.

andIsaid · 11/12/2024 22:19

MerryChristmasYaFilthyBrusselSprout · 11/12/2024 22:12

Why do you feel terrible for her parents, out of interest?

They have blown their life up.

It will only be a matter of time before they are doxxed and exposed.

At this point in time, it does seem like she/they reported him out of malice.

But, it is also fair to say that at this point we only have one side of the story.

We are jumping to a lot of conclusions which, if they were thrown around in the opposite direction, we would call foul.

Unlikely as it seems and hard as it is, we must keep that in mind.

MerryChristmasYaFilthyBrusselSprout · 11/12/2024 22:19

MumWifeOther · 11/12/2024 22:13

And by the way, I’m half of an interracial relationship with a black man and I have a dad who’s Middle Eastern… I understand this culture.

I have two black boys and you can bet that should we be holidaying in Dubai, and they meet a girl of a Middle Eastern / Asian descent, and she makes it clear that she is LYING to her parents about her whereabouts and that they cannot know about my son… I’m going to assume they’re a) racist b) potentially dangerous. And I’m going to do everything in power to keep my boys far, far away. At least while in dubai anyway where it’s illegal.

I have 3 white boys and if they met a girl of a Middle Eastern / Asian descent, and she was she is LYING to her parents about her whereabouts and that they cannot know about my son… I’m going to assume they’re REALLY FUCKING STRICK PARENTS.
This boy couldn’t possibly know they were racist at the time and obviously just assumed they were strict. Who knows what has possessed this mother to do this to this poor boy, yes it could possibly be racism but not necessarily so, it could just be its because he’s a boy who has taken their precious daughter’s ‘purity’ away.

MumWifeOther · 11/12/2024 22:19

SavingTheBestTillLast · 11/12/2024 22:17

It could just as easily be just about sex before marriage.
We know that was an issue in their culture.

Yes that too. Even if you want to remove racism as part of the motivation, his parents surely could have understood the implications her parents cultural beliefs could have on their son..

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