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I know his secret…. Thread 3

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Waffletots · 10/12/2024 18:35

Starting another thread because the last one is full.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5226374-i-know-his-secret-but-how-do-i-play-this?page=1

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5226809-i-know-his-secret-thread-2?page=1

Thank you so much everyone for your messages, I appreciate them so much and you have truly helped me this past crazy few days to know I have so many people supporting me.
I’ve seen a solicitor this afternoon who has given me some good advice regarding finances and the legalities when it comes to our jointly owned home, a lot to get my head around but I feel a lot more informed now!
I’ve missed two calls from my husband since I last updated, I’m worried he’s going to come to the house to try and speak to me but hoping he may think my brother is still here and not bother!

I know his secret but how do I play this? | Mumsnet

I have been married for five years to who I thought was a wonderful man, we have a child and one on the way. Last night I received a text from his fe...

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OP posts:
Gettingbysomehow · 13/12/2024 00:48

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His over active cock made him do it. She is a very pregnant lady. Any idea how painful and uncomfortable sex is when you are that pregnant.
Come over and let me stuff a large melon into you then we'll see. No need to thank me.

ftp · 13/12/2024 00:53

Waffletots · 10/12/2024 18:46

I haven’t! I do have a chain on my front door I’ve put on but obviously he has keys for the back door too, legally I don’t think I could stop him coming into his own home but I really could do without the stress, I could stay with my parents but then I’m worried he’s could move back in whilst I’m gone and I need this home for my children. It’s such a mess!

Keep going

Leave the key in the lock after you lock it - he cannot get in then

browneyes77 · 13/12/2024 06:36

MuddyPawsIndoors · 12/12/2024 23:32

I think it's the PP who pulled everyone's pigtails and ran away.

I've reported anyway.

I reported that Mike twat etc too.

No point engaging with idiots like that who are just trying to troll. Better to just keep reporting them and get rid of their stupid comments.

FoneyHungus · 13/12/2024 06:53

browneyes77 · 13/12/2024 06:36

I reported that Mike twat etc too.

No point engaging with idiots like that who are just trying to troll. Better to just keep reporting them and get rid of their stupid comments.

I reported that MikeX post ages ago too, so I think there is a chance that it’s a real poster as other posts have been taken down since but not his. The post completely lacked any emotional intelligence or maturity. It smacks of either a narcissist themselves (who’s may be behaved in similarly despicable ways to the OPs H) or a spotty, greasy creep in his mothers basement. Certainly didn’t sound like someone whose opinion should matter to the OP. Can be discounted I think.

Undercovercourgette · 13/12/2024 07:01

Waffletots · 10/12/2024 18:35

Starting another thread because the last one is full.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5226374-i-know-his-secret-but-how-do-i-play-this?page=1

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5226809-i-know-his-secret-thread-2?page=1

Thank you so much everyone for your messages, I appreciate them so much and you have truly helped me this past crazy few days to know I have so many people supporting me.
I’ve seen a solicitor this afternoon who has given me some good advice regarding finances and the legalities when it comes to our jointly owned home, a lot to get my head around but I feel a lot more informed now!
I’ve missed two calls from my husband since I last updated, I’m worried he’s going to come to the house to try and speak to me but hoping he may think my brother is still here and not bother!

Been following this. I prayed it was just a jealous woman stirring the pot, I’m so sorry it wasn’t. However, seeing how you have handled this is amazing. You truly are a strong independent woman! I don’t know you but I already know you deserve the world, he’s lost a diamond!! Keep your chin up, your kids are lucky to have you! Hugs! Xx

Time4bedsaidZebadee · 13/12/2024 07:55

I think you're incredibly brave. Well done for rallying support and being so focused on the wee ones.

It might be harder after the birth though. A trauma like this during pregnancy can affect how you feel and crucially how you bond with a new baby. It might be good to be proactive and refer to psychology services to have someone to speak to and process what's happened, good luck with the birth x

BlueFlowers5 · 13/12/2024 08:53

Relationship break up can be a danger point for women, men being violent at this point.
Please get someone to stay with you.
If you are afraid what he'll do, tell your solicitor.

Phoenixfire1988 · 13/12/2024 09:04

Waffletots · 11/12/2024 13:30

Hi everyone, I had no idea the Daily Mail had picked up on this so thank you for the heads up.
I’m sure if people know me personally it will be pretty obvious it’s me which is quite embarrassing as I lived out many emotions on here as it was happening… but as I mentioned in my last thread, I knew this was a possibility and I’m so glad of your support that it doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things. I’ve done nothing wrong and I shouldn’t be the one who is ashamed.

Just a quick update for you all and the DM 🙄
I slept on and off, no visitors to the house! Had a few messages again last night and today, seems panic is setting in for my husband who has now started to say things like “Come on (my name) I have lost everything here”, “Will you speak to me” and my personal favourite “it’s nearly Christmas”
I assume we are moving onto the guilt trip phase, I guess he missed the memo about the apologetic part 🤷‍♀️
As suggested here I plan to message back something along the lines of “I need some space and peace to process this which came as a massive shock. If you wish to contact me or make plans to see (our three year old) please go through (my brother)”.

He's lost everything ?? The absolute audacity of the man throwing himself a pity party when he's the one who done this ! What about you and your child ? Do not even give this man an inch he should of considered what he had to lose before sticking his dick in another woman for a year she definitely wouldn't of been the last either if you had let him off with it I'm so proud of you OP you're an absolute superstar . I'm glad you didn't follow the advice of the doormats telling you to ignore it self respect is important and your children don't need to grow up thinking being cheated on is OK. Stay strong x

Respectisnotoptional · 13/12/2024 09:27

What a shame this thread had been derailed, instead of keep responding to rogue posts just report them, a thread that I’m sure was being helpful, has now turned into an insulting bun fight.
I know the OP has lots of family support and that’s the absolute best you can have.

EdithBond · 13/12/2024 09:37

@SlightlyJaded I agree with your sentiment. But I don’t think @Waffletots has lost everything at all.

In fact, I’d say she appears to have found a lot. The truth. Great strength, maturity and dignity. The love and support of her wonderful family. Her selfless love for her children, in putting their needs first in the face of great shock and pain. The support of other mothers.

Most of all, she’s found the boundary of what behaviour she won’t tolerate.

TheFormidableMrsC · 13/12/2024 09:51

Respectisnotoptional · 13/12/2024 09:27

What a shame this thread had been derailed, instead of keep responding to rogue posts just report them, a thread that I’m sure was being helpful, has now turned into an insulting bun fight.
I know the OP has lots of family support and that’s the absolute best you can have.

I agree. The idiot last night was a PBP who had form for trolling and has been banned again. Hopefully we can get back to supporting OP 🤞

TheFormidableMrsC · 13/12/2024 09:52

EdithBond · 13/12/2024 09:37

@SlightlyJaded I agree with your sentiment. But I don’t think @Waffletots has lost everything at all.

In fact, I’d say she appears to have found a lot. The truth. Great strength, maturity and dignity. The love and support of her wonderful family. Her selfless love for her children, in putting their needs first in the face of great shock and pain. The support of other mothers.

Most of all, she’s found the boundary of what behaviour she won’t tolerate.

100% this. She will be the phoenix that rises from the ashes. Her and her kids deserve so much more.

HardyCrow · 13/12/2024 10:53

Oodydoody · 11/12/2024 21:30

OP, at nearly 60, IMO, men that come from poor emotional backgrounds, with poor relationships with their family can often be very detached in their intimate relationships.
Its like they never learnt about secure attachment growing up so are unable to replicate what they don't understand.

He has appeared loving and involved but has been having a long term affair.
Isn't asking about his child.

Its arm chair analysis but he reads as very damaged and I think hard as this is now, you are far better to be done and to move forward with your life without him.

You can do this.

A very selfish man would be my diagnosis.

Mugcake · 13/12/2024 11:05

Hope you're OK @Waffletots

SwerveCity · 13/12/2024 11:07

I keep checking back here for an update. Hope all is ok op. Maybe baby has made an appearance.

BubblesAndNibbles · 13/12/2024 11:10

@waffletots Firstly, I'd like to offer you my deepest sympathies for having to learn your husband has been having an affair when you're 38 weeks pregnant and Christmas is just two weeks away. You sound amazingly strong given this bombshell that's happened, and I admire you for that — many people would fall apart unable to even think — let alone act — and become either hysterical, flare up out of control, or simply curl up in a ball barely able to function. For you to pre-think all your moves, even down to ordering STD tests online, arranging for your three-year-old to stay with your parent's, call round your brother and SIL, pack your husband a bag, plan to send the bombshell texts to him when he pulled up on the drive — I can't tell you how amazing you are.

And then to arrange an appointment with a solicitor within just two days is nothing short of incredible. None of us know how we'd react to such devastating news, but I suspect your husband will have guessed your reaction having been together five years. You sound the calm and collective type and that's a good thing, especially whilst going through this at such a crucial and emotional time.

One thing I noticed in your first post was how you said your husband had occasionally mentioned this OW and for the benefit of some who may not know, this is usually always a big red flag that the woman is on his mind and he has a crush on her: why else would he be thinking of her and worse, mentioning her to you?

What he's done is despicable and no way is it forgivable — certainly when the affair has lasted one whole year. That aside, just because it has lasted a year it doesn't mean he's in-love with her, it's possible she was an ego boost to him for whatever reason and he just enjoyed the sex. Yes, that is absolutely wrong and disgraceful, and in some ways had he truly fell in-love with her against his control, although it's still unforgivable you could half understand why he did something so selfish and reckless.

It sounds, though, that he was just stringing her along, hence him lying to her and not telling her you were planning more babies, so I suspect when she discovered the truth she wanted to hurt him back — and so she did the worst thing possible by telling you. I'm not excusing her as it takes two to Tango, but your husband sounds cold and callous by how you've described his reactions, so you don't know what lies and promises he fed her and I'm sure she went into a tailspin too.

I doubt very much he's staying with her now as he must be furious with her, and he's been caught out by both of you, so at least you have the satisfaction of knowing he's effectively homeless until everything gets sorted.

It's brilliant that you have your family supporting you, but legally you're going to have to sort out visitation rights for your husband to see his children. I know it's hard, but that's the law. And I'm sure your eldest is starting to wonder where he is. So you need to arrange something quickly. I can understand you not wanting to speak to him or even see him, but realistically you're going to have to eventually. You can't not ever see him again — he's going to be around for the next 18 years and there'll be times when you'll simply have to communicate or see each other.

As for the marital home, courts usually always give the mother custody and always make sure they keep to stay in the marital home until the children reach university age. So you've no need to worry on that respect.

Finally, it may help you to seek counselling later down the line as this has been a traumatic time for you and you could unwittingly be burying your pain inside, which needs to be released at some stage.

Good luck for the future and I wish you all the very best.

JFDIYOLO · 13/12/2024 11:13

So today we have

One woman who knowingly got into an affair with a married man with a child, heard what she wanted to hear and is probably mourning the loss of her faked future now, after her revenge act.

One deceitful man who has, as he has said himself, lost everything and is probably going to spend Christmas alone in a hotel when he could/should/would have been home celebrating a new baby with his wife & toddler, had he been a good man

And one woman of dignity and incredible resolve who will soon have a beautiful new baby to join her toddler and a brilliant, loving, supportive family for Christmas.

❣️

OP, ignore the idiot trolls and the derailers - they're just little potholes on this Mumsnet road.

The advice and overwhelming support you've had here I hope will also help others in your situation.

So many women here wish they'd had your strength. Or their mothers had.

Wishing you all the very best for the future - only update if you feel like it.

AngelicKaty · 13/12/2024 11:45

JFDIYOLO · 13/12/2024 11:13

So today we have

One woman who knowingly got into an affair with a married man with a child, heard what she wanted to hear and is probably mourning the loss of her faked future now, after her revenge act.

One deceitful man who has, as he has said himself, lost everything and is probably going to spend Christmas alone in a hotel when he could/should/would have been home celebrating a new baby with his wife & toddler, had he been a good man

And one woman of dignity and incredible resolve who will soon have a beautiful new baby to join her toddler and a brilliant, loving, supportive family for Christmas.

❣️

OP, ignore the idiot trolls and the derailers - they're just little potholes on this Mumsnet road.

The advice and overwhelming support you've had here I hope will also help others in your situation.

So many women here wish they'd had your strength. Or their mothers had.

Wishing you all the very best for the future - only update if you feel like it.

Excellent post! Deserves quoting so people can read it twice! 🤗

allthatfalafel · 13/12/2024 11:48

All the people who are talking about derailing are also derailing 🤔

Diddlyumptious · 13/12/2024 11:58

Keep going, you're strong, you've got this, more so when those pesky hormones calm down. Good luck with the birth too

Muddledandmiddle · 13/12/2024 12:21

Wishing you well for the birth op. X

Boredoutofmyhead · 13/12/2024 12:56

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TipsyJoker · 13/12/2024 14:12

Waffletots · 10/12/2024 18:46

I haven’t! I do have a chain on my front door I’ve put on but obviously he has keys for the back door too, legally I don’t think I could stop him coming into his own home but I really could do without the stress, I could stay with my parents but then I’m worried he’s could move back in whilst I’m gone and I need this home for my children. It’s such a mess!

Apply for an occupation order to allow you to remain in the home and him not be allowed to return.

RegimentalSturgeon · 13/12/2024 14:34

TipsyJoker · 13/12/2024 14:12

Apply for an occupation order to allow you to remain in the home and him not be allowed to return.

The circumstances as described in this thread give no grounds for an occupation order.

Joyfullasever · 13/12/2024 14:37

You are a remarkable lady Waffletots, and I admire your strength, most women would crumble at the situation especially when heavily pregnant, I am so sorry you are going through this but with your family support you can do this. Sending you hugs 🤗

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