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I know his secret…. Thread 3

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Waffletots · 10/12/2024 18:35

Starting another thread because the last one is full.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5226374-i-know-his-secret-but-how-do-i-play-this?page=1

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5226809-i-know-his-secret-thread-2?page=1

Thank you so much everyone for your messages, I appreciate them so much and you have truly helped me this past crazy few days to know I have so many people supporting me.
I’ve seen a solicitor this afternoon who has given me some good advice regarding finances and the legalities when it comes to our jointly owned home, a lot to get my head around but I feel a lot more informed now!
I’ve missed two calls from my husband since I last updated, I’m worried he’s going to come to the house to try and speak to me but hoping he may think my brother is still here and not bother!

I know his secret but how do I play this? | Mumsnet

I have been married for five years to who I thought was a wonderful man, we have a child and one on the way. Last night I received a text from his fe...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5226374-i-know-his-secret-but-how-do-i-play-this?page=1

OP posts:
CautiousLurker01 · 11/12/2024 11:26

FuckoffeeBeforeCoffee · 11/12/2024 11:14

It's in the Daily Mail.

Sorry if this has already been mentioned.

Yes, cheap hackjob, though, as all they’ve done is précis the threads. No attempt to research the incidence of men being unfaithful when wives are pregnant, or the rights under a legal separation of women such as the OP, or an exploration of why men who appear to have it all sabotage themselves the way OP’s DH has… you know, proper investigative journalism.

(If you are reading this Daily Mail journo, perhaps you could remind yourself why you studied journalism at uni - if you did - and what the basic tenets of the profession are?)

MissLeToe · 11/12/2024 11:35

SpryCat · 11/12/2024 11:19

I don’t think many people read that rag, and very slim chance anyone would put two and two together and guess who they are. They are very lazy journalists or should I say guttersnipes x

Millions of people read it online.

TwinklesToes · 11/12/2024 11:36

Just to let you know I think the Daily Mail has picked up your post and published it today.

Howtobemoreempathetic · 11/12/2024 11:39

FuckoffeeBeforeCoffee · 11/12/2024 11:14

It's in the Daily Mail.

Sorry if this has already been mentioned.

Fuckers

quantumbutterfly · 11/12/2024 11:39

DM couldn't scrape the story without MN permission.

Beentheredonethat0 · 11/12/2024 11:59

@quantumbutterfly really? Couldn't a DM journo simply create a MN account and just copy paste?

It's hardly like DM hacks are law abiding 'journalists'. They work for a barrel scraping infotainment rag.

ThatCoralShark · 11/12/2024 12:00

quantumbutterfly · 11/12/2024 11:39

DM couldn't scrape the story without MN permission.

I don’t think that’s true.

AngelicKaty · 11/12/2024 12:05

Waffletots · 10/12/2024 21:12

You never know what will happen when those baby hormones kick in but unless I completely loose my mind (which I won’t with family around and if I keep talking) I will never trust him again so for me, the relationship is over for good.
Honestly I feel many emotions all at the same time, I’m swinging from one to the next constantly but I’m trying to keep my head level and concentrate on what’s important here, my children, everything else will come together in time (I hope!)

"I will never trust him again so for me, the relationship is over for good."
Exactly OP. When there is no trust in a relationship it's done. When he should have been coming home from work to be with you and your first child, he was lying and spending time with the OW - it's just the ultimate betrayal. He's a fool - a lying, cheating fool - who doesn't deserve you. You can - and will - do better.
Stay strong OP. Your response to what he's done has been exemplary - keep doing more of the same. Wishing you all the luck and love in the world and sending big hugs! ❤️

whathaveiforgotten · 11/12/2024 12:07

quantumbutterfly · 11/12/2024 11:39

DM couldn't scrape the story without MN permission.

Of course they can, it's a public site so anyone can share the content online. I don't know why you think they'd need permission at all?

People think of MN as a safe space but it's a huge site that journalists trawl for stories.

A site like the Mail Online is visited by tens of millions of readers every month, so when stories from MN are linked to it drives huge traffic to the site.

At the end of the day, MN is a business and huge traffic driving is to their benefit.

Sorry OP, if I was you i would ask for this to be deleted but they might not agree to that.

This being featured by a massive news site is a reminder to everyone that MN is not a private site and there is no restriction on people reporting on the site's threads

Commonsense22 · 11/12/2024 12:08

CautiousLurker01 · 11/12/2024 11:26

Yes, cheap hackjob, though, as all they’ve done is précis the threads. No attempt to research the incidence of men being unfaithful when wives are pregnant, or the rights under a legal separation of women such as the OP, or an exploration of why men who appear to have it all sabotage themselves the way OP’s DH has… you know, proper investigative journalism.

(If you are reading this Daily Mail journo, perhaps you could remind yourself why you studied journalism at uni - if you did - and what the basic tenets of the profession are?)

It won't have been done by a journalist. At best, an unpaid intern whose job is to copy-paste from forums like this. At worst, a scrapping AI algorithm.

Rubbish anyway.
OP, I continue to wish you well. Even if you don't feel able to update the thread anymore, we're all still supporting you!

SerafinasGoose · 11/12/2024 12:11

whathaveiforgotten · 11/12/2024 12:07

Of course they can, it's a public site so anyone can share the content online. I don't know why you think they'd need permission at all?

People think of MN as a safe space but it's a huge site that journalists trawl for stories.

A site like the Mail Online is visited by tens of millions of readers every month, so when stories from MN are linked to it drives huge traffic to the site.

At the end of the day, MN is a business and huge traffic driving is to their benefit.

Sorry OP, if I was you i would ask for this to be deleted but they might not agree to that.

This being featured by a massive news site is a reminder to everyone that MN is not a private site and there is no restriction on people reporting on the site's threads

OP knew this was a possibility - it was raised on the first thread - and said she'd rather take the support she was being offered.

Also, in the event that others did read the story and recognise themselves, the shame associated with this story did not belong to her but rests squarely with them.

whathaveiforgotten · 11/12/2024 12:15

@SerafinasGoose

Ah I didn't know she said that on a previous thread. And yes of course there's no shame for her, I hope nothing I said implied otherwise at all! She's had an awful time and doesn't need any added trauma at all.

Beentheredonethat0 · 11/12/2024 12:16

@waffletots

Article written by, just in case you need to contact DM.

I know his secret…. Thread 3
ThianWinter · 11/12/2024 12:20

Beentheredonethat0 · 11/12/2024 11:59

@quantumbutterfly really? Couldn't a DM journo simply create a MN account and just copy paste?

It's hardly like DM hacks are law abiding 'journalists'. They work for a barrel scraping infotainment rag.

They wouldn't need an account on here, to copy and paste. It happens all the time. Anything they think might garner some online clicks is stolen from here. Jeremy Vine's TV show and Loose Women also steal threads from Mumsnet to discuss. That's why it's important to anonymise yourself, although in this case, @Waffletots has every right to publicise what an utter shit her husband is.

SerafinasGoose · 11/12/2024 12:22

whathaveiforgotten · 11/12/2024 12:15

@SerafinasGoose

Ah I didn't know she said that on a previous thread. And yes of course there's no shame for her, I hope nothing I said implied otherwise at all! She's had an awful time and doesn't need any added trauma at all.

It didn't at all. That was just the substance of the prior conversation.

It would hardly be possible to make things worse than they already are. In comparison with his actions, the act of posting online for a bit of support is so minor as to pale into insignificance.

TaylorSwish · 11/12/2024 12:22

AtlasPine · 10/12/2024 20:27

I’m in my sixties and wish I’d had even half of your sense and strength when this happened to me 30 years ago. You will be ok eventually and thank goodness for your parents and brother who sound fab. Lots of warm wishes and positive vibes for you.

You probably did at the time you just didn’t realise as you were in survival mode.
Hope you are all good 30 years later and that you had a happy ending. 💐

Peony15 · 11/12/2024 12:23

The reporter is on linkedin. She's like the mistress, no regard for fellow women, why expose OP
at a time like this.
Disgusted but typical
of DM. Their reporters are underachievers, hence why they work
for DM. Most can't spell nor properly research.

NeedToChangeName · 11/12/2024 12:32

quantumbutterfly · 11/12/2024 11:39

DM couldn't scrape the story without MN permission.

Why on earth not? It's in the public domain. MN can't control who sees it or what eg lazy journalists do with the info they find

MissLeToe · 11/12/2024 12:33

I could be wrong so apologies in advance but I thought the T&Cs show that MN own all copyright to the site (intellectual property) and can control what's done with it - an agreement with any other publication who uses the content? Otherwise anyone who uses content is in breach of copyright.

MissLeToe · 11/12/2024 12:35

@NeedToChangeName Read the T&Cs linked to.
No one can use content without permission or an agreement .Posts that end up in other publications either online or in print potentially drive traffic to the site.

Alondra · 11/12/2024 12:43

Can we please stop giving space in this thread to a rag like the DM? Hardly anyone reads stories like this to warrant the amount of posts on this thread.

Let's keep this thread clean, sharing good advice for the OP's sake.

MyFaceWillSayItAll · 11/12/2024 12:51

@Waffletots I have read through your threads and am in awe of how you have handled this. It should be the blueprint for how to deal with cheating scumbags. What a shocker of a few days you've had - and at a time when you are most vulnerable. Warrior Woman.

I hope you are able to rest and prepare as much as possible for your new arrival. It sounds like you have a wonderful family around you who are providing much needed support right now.

I think your husband's lack of grovelling and messaging may be partly because he knows you and suspects it won't actually get him anywhere. You are strong, have morals and won't be walked over. This is something he must know about you. I think you do need to address him though, to inform him (and confirm what he probably suspects) of where you stand and how this is going to go. If you don't, he may use it as an excuse to try and worm his way back in, acting clueless and saying he didn't know where he stood.

I wish you all the luck and strength. You have an army of us behind you.

Fraaances · 11/12/2024 13:13

Now the media have found this please don’t share any of your plans with us @Waffletots. (obvs) Maybe just check in and let us know when the baby is born and that you’re okay perhaps?

NeedToChangeName · 11/12/2024 13:13

MissLeToe · 11/12/2024 12:35

@NeedToChangeName Read the T&Cs linked to.
No one can use content without permission or an agreement .Posts that end up in other publications either online or in print potentially drive traffic to the site.

Edited

Hmm that's interesting

Possible that DM have a licence

Or, possible DM share without permission but MN choose not to enforce?

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