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Impatient train woman

317 replies

Bigtom · 10/12/2024 17:36

I regularly commute on a train for around an hour each way. There are no reserved seats. I have a type of arthritis that makes sitting (or standing!) quite uncomfortable so I try to get one of the limited seats with extra leg room.

I walked the length of the train to find one today and the only one was a window seat with someone already sitting in the aisle. I duly asked the lady in the aisle if it was free and she said yes and stood up. I then took off my coat and got my coffee cup out of my bag and put my bag and coat in the overhead rack. While I did this a bit of a queue of people built up.

When I sat down, the lady muttered “take your time why don’t you”. AIBU to think she was very rude and should sit on the window seat if she doesn’t want to move? When I said that, she responded that I was keeping other people waiting!

OP posts:
RhaenysRocks · 10/12/2024 21:51

One persons "fannying around" or "faffing" is someone else's getting a couple of items sorted / comfortable. Everyone is way too impatient and intolerant of everyone else now. There's loads of threads on here about the levels or impatience, aggression etc Of everyone could just take a breath the world would be a lot nicer. And yes I work, am a single parent and am v busy.

TeenLifeMum · 10/12/2024 21:52

ChristmasfoodisOverrated · 10/12/2024 21:45

I agree. People fannying around drives me nuts! I had this happen on a plane in summer. Everybody else managed to get their things in the over head locker and sit down, but oh no, not this couple. They were intent on taking the longest possible route to do everything. It took so long infact, that the flight assistant had to ask them to sit down and let people past 🙄

Haha this is why I never bother priority boarding. I let everyone sort themselves out then on a get and just slot in (with coat in arms ready to go under the plane seat).

Clafoutie · 10/12/2024 22:00

RhaenysRocks · 10/12/2024 20:24

It feels everyone has pretty much forgotten that we live in society. If we use public transport or go out our front door we have to navigate and negotiate other people. That involves inconveniencing others and being inconvenienced for a few minutes every now and then. Yes you minimise it but you're allowed (or should be) to take care of your own needs for a minute or two and the intolerance on this thread is depressing. Yes maybe the aisle woman had a need, maybe the people behind her did but so did she and they can't ALL win or be first in priority. We have to just try and rub along and not be so outraged when the mere existence of others infringes on our space.

I completely agree. Seems we’re in the minority though!

ChristmasfoodisOverrated · 10/12/2024 22:04

RhaenysRocks · 10/12/2024 21:51

One persons "fannying around" or "faffing" is someone else's getting a couple of items sorted / comfortable. Everyone is way too impatient and intolerant of everyone else now. There's loads of threads on here about the levels or impatience, aggression etc Of everyone could just take a breath the world would be a lot nicer. And yes I work, am a single parent and am v busy.

I guess time length/fannying levels are subjective. I would consider faffing as doing none urgent things that could be done in a faster way, when there is a huge queue behind you. I would consider it to be people who just have no concept of what is going on around them. No you don't need to get your hair brush out now, sit down, let people get past, some of which may have medical needs, let the plane take off, then sort it out.

Fireworknight · 10/12/2024 22:04

She was a bit rude but if a queue built up, you were taking ages. If the trai. Was busy, I would have sat Shen and take. It off whilst sitting.

stargazerlil · 10/12/2024 22:14

Was the woman half bent over as you did your stuff, sometimes when you stand up for someone and they take a while and your not properly standing up, half in half out of seat, it can be uncomfortable and really annoying. And were you slow, sometimes if your half standing and bent over and hanging on waiting for someone to do their stuff before they sit down and they do it really slowly.. fuck that pisses me off.
however pissed off I was though I would never say “take your time why don’t you” because it’s not only very fucking rude, you also never know why they are slow. YANBU

Mnetcurious · 10/12/2024 22:37

TeenLifeMum · 10/12/2024 21:52

Haha this is why I never bother priority boarding. I let everyone sort themselves out then on a get and just slot in (with coat in arms ready to go under the plane seat).

Agree with this but it’s different on a plane - your seat is already assigned so it makes no difference. On a commuter train, seats aren’t usually assigned so someone blocking the aisle can make all the difference between getting a seat or standing, or getting an aisle seat which you need to stretch out your leg due to knee injury, etc.

TeenLifeMum · 10/12/2024 22:39

Mnetcurious · 10/12/2024 22:37

Agree with this but it’s different on a plane - your seat is already assigned so it makes no difference. On a commuter train, seats aren’t usually assigned so someone blocking the aisle can make all the difference between getting a seat or standing, or getting an aisle seat which you need to stretch out your leg due to knee injury, etc.

Edited

I completely agree. Sit down and sort out coats and bags. I’m from the south east and used to do the London commute. There’s no faffing around.

I’m now in the West Country and it’s a bit slower paced.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 10/12/2024 22:41

FrangipaniBlue · 10/12/2024 18:44

I probably would have said to her "oh you needn't stand yet I'll just take my coat off and put my stuff overhead first".

But yeah, she was still rude and impatient!

This is probably the answer!

Bigtom · 10/12/2024 22:42

Flossflower · 10/12/2024 20:43

OP, I want to know what you would have done if you didn’t find an extra legroom seat? Surely you could just have taken any aisle seat and stretched your legs into the aisle.
Yes, I admit I would have been impatient if I was waiting for you to sort yourself out. Maybe they need to sit down for some reason you don’t know.
If I was hot, I would have already taken my coat off while I was looking for a seat.

I can’t stretch my legs into the aisle because my back is very stiff and doesn’t rotate like that. I would probably have sat in a normal seat and put up with the pain.

OP posts:
Itiswhysofew · 10/12/2024 22:44

Bloody impatient is what she was. Everything's such an inconvenience for some people.

MuddyPawsIndoors · 10/12/2024 23:03

Bigtom · 10/12/2024 19:41

It would be a bit of a juggling act but perhaps I could try and sort that out in the foyer next time.

Just do it on the platform.

The info board lets you know when the train is due to arrive.

TheignT · 11/12/2024 08:45

Yellowbananasarebetterthangreen · 10/12/2024 20:30

That was the man that held you up today, on the train you were on. You witnessed him take longer that you felt he needed and were annoyed by it (as I would have been too Im sure. I also have arthritic knees and find standing very painful)
That doesnt mean the op took ages. Nor does it mean you can know for sure that she took ages any more than I can be sure she was quick. We werent there.
The op clearly thinks she was as quick as she could be. I think the aisle lady had deliberately sat in the aisle seat hoping no one would claim the window seat. The op did which caused the aisle lady to be rude.

Well she took long enough to annoy the woman next to her and to cause other people to form a queue as they couldn't get past. That does indicate it took more than the 2 seconds she claimed it took.

You have no idea why the other woman chose the aisle seat but the fact is it was a free seat and she sat in it. No one has a right to judge her for that anymore than they should judge the OP for deciding she needed a priority seat more than anyone else on the train.

TheignT · 11/12/2024 08:49

Clafoutie · 10/12/2024 22:00

I completely agree. Seems we’re in the minority though!

Well the OP certainly had no intention of thinking of anyone else, she wanted what she wanted, priority seat, take her coat off holding other people up, getting coffee cup out of bag (can an adult really not do a 1 hr journey without coffee?)

TheignT · 11/12/2024 08:52

RhaenysRocks · 10/12/2024 21:51

One persons "fannying around" or "faffing" is someone else's getting a couple of items sorted / comfortable. Everyone is way too impatient and intolerant of everyone else now. There's loads of threads on here about the levels or impatience, aggression etc Of everyone could just take a breath the world would be a lot nicer. And yes I work, am a single parent and am v busy.

Maybe you're not in pain standing on a train while OP faffs about. I've been a single parent with a demanding job and very busy, I've been my husband's carer, bringing up children and doing a demanding job. Trust me the world looks different when you are in pain and someone else is messing about adding to your pain, I hope you don't find out.

toucheee · 11/12/2024 09:01

Wow I literally can't believe these responses. My mum has arthritis and moves slowly now and would need one of the seats OP describes. If anyone was rude to her about it I would cut them down so quickly their head would spin.

TheignT · 11/12/2024 09:06

toucheee · 11/12/2024 09:01

Wow I literally can't believe these responses. My mum has arthritis and moves slowly now and would need one of the seats OP describes. If anyone was rude to her about it I would cut them down so quickly their head would spin.

No one is rude about needing priority seats. Does your mother block the aisle while she faffs about holding other people up? If not there isn't a problem is there. I need a priority seat if possible due to arthritis but I would never stand in the aisle blocking people so I can take my coat off and sort my bag out as I know I'm not the only person in the world with a painful condition.

eurochick · 11/12/2024 09:11

If there were loads of seats further down why didn't you go to the end or find an aisle seat if you knew you needed to faff before sitting down?

toucheee · 11/12/2024 09:15

TheignT · 11/12/2024 09:06

No one is rude about needing priority seats. Does your mother block the aisle while she faffs about holding other people up? If not there isn't a problem is there. I need a priority seat if possible due to arthritis but I would never stand in the aisle blocking people so I can take my coat off and sort my bag out as I know I'm not the only person in the world with a painful condition.

Yes if she needs to put her coat away she needs to put it away! Why should she be uncomfortable or burdened with things because she has a disability?

She has reduced mobility she can’t keep getting up! Just because you can doesn’t mean SHE can.

Seriously learn some empathy people.

toucheee · 11/12/2024 09:17

eurochick · 11/12/2024 09:11

If there were loads of seats further down why didn't you go to the end or find an aisle seat if you knew you needed to faff before sitting down?

You seriously don’t see why a disabled person should take the first available suitable seat?

Fuck me.

YaWeeFurryBastard · 11/12/2024 09:18

toucheee · 11/12/2024 09:15

Yes if she needs to put her coat away she needs to put it away! Why should she be uncomfortable or burdened with things because she has a disability?

She has reduced mobility she can’t keep getting up! Just because you can doesn’t mean SHE can.

Seriously learn some empathy people.

Edited

Of course she shouldn’t be uncomfortable or burdened with things because she has a disability, but she should also be mindful of those around her and step aside so others can do what they need to do before blocking the aisle on public transport. The two aren’t mutually exclusive and others around may also have disability needs.

RhaenysRocks · 11/12/2024 09:18

TheignT · 11/12/2024 08:52

Maybe you're not in pain standing on a train while OP faffs about. I've been a single parent with a demanding job and very busy, I've been my husband's carer, bringing up children and doing a demanding job. Trust me the world looks different when you are in pain and someone else is messing about adding to your pain, I hope you don't find out.

I don't think it's "messing about" though. The OP has explained her own pain would be increased by sitting in her coat with bag in lap and that she can't twist to sit in an aisle seat. Everyone saying "think of those in pain" are ignoring the OPs. What I'm saying is that life is full of other people. Everyone is building up what the op did into.some huge, entitled thing but it will have taken less than a minute. If you're capable of being out and on public transport the extension of that by one minute, when the train could have been delayed for any number of minutes or you could have been standing waiting for people to get off with buggies or luggage should not be deserving of such ire. Everyone has needs, we all need to work around each others' and I don't think what the OP did was egregious. And yes I have my own pain in various ways.

YaWeeFurryBastard · 11/12/2024 09:19

toucheee · 11/12/2024 09:17

You seriously don’t see why a disabled person should take the first available suitable seat?

Fuck me.

RTFT, the OP has already said she doesn’t have a problem walking and had walked the length of the carriage to find a suitable seat for her needs.

Isatis · 11/12/2024 09:34

Bigtom · 10/12/2024 19:10

It wasn’t a huge queue, just 2 or 3 people. I also took some time getting my coat off, getting my cup out and putting my bag up as mentioned in my OP. Maybe 30 seconds in total?

I'd be prepared to bet it was more than that. I think, though, that the business of getting set up with coffee etc would have irritated me more than the coat/bag stuff.

toucheee · 11/12/2024 09:38

YaWeeFurryBastard · 11/12/2024 09:19

RTFT, the OP has already said she doesn’t have a problem walking and had walked the length of the carriage to find a suitable seat for her needs.

What guarantee would she have of a seat being free further down the train? You take the first available suitable seat.

The ignorance on this thread is astounding.

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