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To cancel Christmas unless I'm given a present?

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Grinch123 · 09/12/2024 16:41

It's a long one! I've name changed.

Backstory ~

Abusive upbringing. I'm the oldest sibling and always kind of looked after everyone, including parents who both have mental health issues. Parents, and 2 siblings (DSis1 and DB) have never worked and claimed benefits. 1 sibling (DSis2) is on minimum wage. I've worked my way up and am on a nice salary well into 6 figures.

Christmas was shit growing up, no money and lots of manipulation and drama. When I moved out I started hosting everyone and trying to recreate those amazing Christmases in movies. Lots of food, tree heaving with gifts, overflowing stockings. Family always seem happy and have a ball, though there are always digs about my salary and how I could do more - I cave and each year it gets bigger and better. No one contributes at all (I haven't asked, they haven't offered).

Family are shit with my feelings or acknowledging birthdays etc. I'm aware money is ridiculously tight for them all, however I'm talking completely ignored my graduation (first one in my family), I didn't even get a text/card for my 30th. I go all out for them, and have always 'forgiven' anything hurtful based on the fact we've been through a lot and I want to treat them and put effort into having relationships. I also feel guilty that I'm financially secure, and they are not - they don't want budgeting advice etc (fair enough!) but I do help them out with money fairly often.

The issue, or more like the straw that broke this camels back:

Every year I buy loads of gifts for under the tree - everything anyone asks for, plus lots I research and find that I think they'll like - my point is, it's not just money I'm throwing at it! Everyone also buys each other one small gift, a token really. Something like a box of chocolates. I love those moments of opening gifts together, although I have far less than the others! But it's so much fun and I work so hard to try and get things everyone will love.

This year, DB has announced in the family WhatsApp that we're doing Secret Santa for the adults in the family, so we don't have to buy gifts for each other. He (and everyone) knows I'm done with my shopping and everything they've asked me for is wrapped and under the tree already. He's included an uncle I have never met - pretty sure he has me because this weekend my gift arrived in an unmarked Amazon box (so took me a good few days to figure out who had sent me a bottle of whiskey - I don't drink).

I was really hurt, by that and by the fact I won't have any gifts under the tree (I've brought for myself before and family laugh at me, I've also unwrapped gifts friends have given me, and again got made fun of because they were expensive). I talked to my best friend and decided to have conversations with the family. I spoke to all of them, one by one, and explained honestly I was disappointed because I like something to open, and would love if we could exchange gifts as I've bought for them already. I highlighted I'd be happy with something small - just a token gift. Broadly speaking the response I got was : you're being ridiculous, adults don't need gifts, we're broke and you can afford anything you want! Along with lots of hurtful digs and mean comments.

I'm now fuming and want to cancel everything and never see anyone again. I feel like they take advantage of my generosity (which I know they do!) however this cements the fact in my mind that they don't actually care about me or my feelings at all. I understand times are tough, I try and be as supportive as I can be - but am I crazy to think if you're being hosted for a week, having hundreds of pounds worth of gifts bought for you (that you've asked for! Including practical things you need and would have to buy for yourself if I didn't!), that you can afford a cheap £5 box of chocolates to humour your daughter/sister?

OP posts:
ForestFox44 · 09/12/2024 21:47

They are absolutely awful and I'm so glad you messaged them, DO NOT LET THEM SWAY YOUR DECISION. They deserve NOTHING. Have an incredible Xmas with your daughter, can't wait to hear all about it!

murasaki · 09/12/2024 21:48

Nocameltoeleggingsplease · 09/12/2024 21:47

Stay strong OP! You are showing your DD how you should be treated!

This is a very good point. You need to model strength for your daughter. Which you are.

Exasperateddonut · 09/12/2024 21:49

Wow well done you. It’s really hard putting in boundaries and you’ll feel like you want to cave at times. May I gently suggest some therapy to give you strength and assess your boundaries. You’re doing a great job. This year I went NC with my family - it has been so hard but therapy has really helped me cope. I can’t recommend it enough. Definitely starting 2025 in a much stronger position.

Christmas away will be amazing. There are loads of lovely places to go and an airport at Christmas is also a magic special place.

Mia184 · 09/12/2024 21:50

Make sure your sister doesn’t see the presents!

SockFluffInTheBath · 09/12/2024 21:50

Grinch123 · 09/12/2024 20:41

Thanks all. This thread is really good at keeping me distracted and not feeling so alone right now!

Everyone has read the message, no replies. Missed call from DM, and DSis called, I didn't reply, and now apparently is on her way over.

Friend in Aus isn't around, I'm now googling beach holidays in the Caribbean 😂

Oh dear god. Don’t let DSis in OP. I imagine she’s going to tell you it’s too late to let the children down this year, and how could/dare you. Why can’t you go on holiday another time… stay strong OP, the hard bit is done, get that holiday booked!

Cherrysherbet · 09/12/2024 21:51

You sound like a really kind person Op.
They don’t deserve you 💐
I hope you have a good Christmas.

SorcererGaheris · 09/12/2024 21:51

MooseAndSquirrelLoveFlannel · 09/12/2024 18:50

You surely just wrapped some empty boxes for decoration, as you thought it looked pretty. Nothing to see here, no presents here, just festive empty boxes.

Off topic, but noticed your username - you a Supernatural fan? :)

twohotwaterbottles · 09/12/2024 21:56

SalsaLights · 09/12/2024 21:24

OP at this point you could probably summon a crowd of pitchfork-wielding MNers to turn up on your doorstep, to defend you against grabby family members. Just say the word... 😆👩‍🌾

I live in Yorkshire but ready to jump in the car with pitchfork. Just say the word 💪🏻😂

Oceangreyscale · 09/12/2024 21:57

Wow I hope you have a brilliant and relaxed Christmas with your daughter, you completely deserve it.

Fourecks · 09/12/2024 21:58

If you do answer the door, make sure you are wearing the UGGs, the North Face jacket, the Airpods and are liberally doused in perfume.

Peachy2005 · 09/12/2024 21:58

Agree, hope you didn’t let her in. Well done though, never too late to set boundaries and make your own magical memories with your DD.

Just give yourself a breather and the chance to dispose of all the gifts to charities, get your trip booked, change your locks if necessary and practice saying that doesn’t work for us and whatever other phrases you may need. Oh and don’t forget booking your therapy 😀

Wishing you a wonderful Christmas and many more xx

Vaxtable · 09/12/2024 21:59

Message is spot on, well done. And I would remove all the presents under the tree now and hide them, so when your sister arrives they are no longer there. You can then say oh those where the ones for donation

TwoBlueFish · 09/12/2024 22:01

Last year we did theme parks in Orlando and then a cruise from Orlando for actual Christmas. It was amazing and so great not to have the stress of Christmas, relax and get some sunshine. I highly recommend it.

ITSSSSCHRISTMASSS · 09/12/2024 22:02

Grinch123 · 09/12/2024 20:50

Ohhhh okay I'm going to google it right now, I never thought I'd do that due to always hosting but Disney might be perfect! 💜

Absolutely Disney! You have multiple options, LA, Orlando, Paris, Hong Kong!

Go for it OP, your family sound toxic and abusive, best thing I ever did was cut mine out, I love Christmas with my DH and children, no extended family dramas xx

ForkHandlesNotFourCandles · 09/12/2024 22:02

toucheee · 09/12/2024 20:46

If you’re going to let Sis in, please hide the presents upstairs. I wouldn’t past her to try and take the Lego Xbox away when your head’s turned.

I was thinking the same.
Id definitely move those presents

Roryno · 09/12/2024 22:04

But most Disneys will be cold at Xmas. I’d do Barbados. A Disney cruise might be a great compromise! Or perhaps Dubai (I’m not a massive fan of the place, but they’re good at Xmas and it will be warm).

Brombat · 09/12/2024 22:05

Brene Brown has some good things to say about wholeheartness in her books and about rats who steal your goodwill. She says the happiest people have the best boundaries.

Have fun on hols!

ButterCrackers · 09/12/2024 22:10

Grinch123 · 09/12/2024 20:41

Thanks all. This thread is really good at keeping me distracted and not feeling so alone right now!

Everyone has read the message, no replies. Missed call from DM, and DSis called, I didn't reply, and now apparently is on her way over.

Friend in Aus isn't around, I'm now googling beach holidays in the Caribbean 😂

Remove the gifts. Say that your brother is right about Christmas being about a secret Santa. Don’t give in. Say that you are booking a holiday. Show your DS the door.

CaveMum · 09/12/2024 22:12

Grinch123 · 09/12/2024 20:50

Ohhhh okay I'm going to google it right now, I never thought I'd do that due to always hosting but Disney might be perfect! 💜

Came here to say exactly this. Book a Disney trip for you and DD right now!

You’re a lovely person OP, don’t let these people continue to tear you down and take you for granted.

Abridget7 · 09/12/2024 22:13

Stay strong and don’t let them manipulate you into hosting and buying everything.
You need to stop that asap.

ForkHandlesNotFourCandles · 09/12/2024 22:13

Hope OP is standing her ground

murasaki · 09/12/2024 22:13

ButterCrackers · 09/12/2024 22:10

Remove the gifts. Say that your brother is right about Christmas being about a secret Santa. Don’t give in. Say that you are booking a holiday. Show your DS the door.

She doesn't need to show the sister the door, she can see it from the outside.

ButterCrackers · 09/12/2024 22:14

murasaki · 09/12/2024 22:13

She doesn't need to show the sister the door, she can see it from the outside.

Truth

Tiredofallthis101 · 09/12/2024 22:15

Well done. As you say keep your money for you and DD and if you are feeling guilty and a need to help someone donate to charity or a food bank or something that takes the edge off and makes you feel good but doesn't encourage the selfish pigs to think the trough is open for business again.

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