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Husband insulting me to MIL

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Helpinghand1234 · 09/12/2024 12:09

Honest opinions please?

I (40f) am married to DH (41m) I’ve always had a tricky but civil relationship with in-laws. They’re overbearing and emeshed (farming family so everyone but them is an outsider)

Things got trickier when we married, then much much trickier when I had DS 15months ago. I’ve basically felt like a surrogate. MIL complains DS is a mummy’s boy, I shouldn’t have breast fed as no one else could feed him, DS doesn’t want to know her when I’m there, she’s not good enough when I’m around etc. If I complain to DH he says I’m stirring up trouble, imagining it or that’s just how she is. He works long hours keeping their farm afloat and has very little time at home in the evenings. When he does come home, at some point mil or fil will phone to see what DH had for dinner etc and ask how DS is. All of his money goes on keeping the farm afloat and my wages pay all our bills (I owned the home mortgage free before we married) When I complained to DH they were intruding on the little family time we had in the evenings the calls became less but constant messages to his phone, but I thought we had created some kind of boundary.

Im now 15 weeks pregnant with DC2. MIL and SIL had a very cold reaction when we told them, and it’s been niggling at me. DH has a way of making me feel like I’m imagining things, but this time I just
couldn’t convince myself that I was imagining it.

I know I’m totally in the wrong here and accept that fully, but this morning around 5am I couldn’t sleep and things were just going around and around my head. DH hadn’t put his phone to charge on his bedside table and it was on the middle of the bed. I unlocked it and started reading messages between him and MIL. I now know why she dislikes me so much. DH has called me lazy, told her there no dinner ready for him when he gets home, he’s had to do all the laundry as Id been lazy all day, I’ve had takeaway but there’s nothing for him, I’m angry and unpleasant/or I’m in a reasonable mood that night, he’s had to clean up my mess as the house was a tip, that I took my son without a coat and hat in the cold weather until he stopped me. He’s told her DS is saying Gran a lot which I’m not pleased about (DS says 3 words and gran isn’t even one of them). Every single thing is a lie.
In all the time we’ve been married I can count on one hand the times he’s come home with no meal ready, and that will be because I’ve just arrived home myself or I’m ill etc. I do all of the laundry (he wouldn’t know how to turn washing machine on) do all the housework (I doubt he knows where the hoover is) and have never taken DS out without either a sunhat or cold weather hat. He says he’s had too cook dinner, put DS to bed and is now cleaning my mess as I’m in bed. (I go to bed the same time as DS as he sleeps for around 3 hours and it’s the longest stretch of sleep I get- he’s then awake every hour/two hours to feed). MIL’s responses are “isn’t she lazy, she must have been in bed all day, she needs a good shake, don’t worry DS will grow soon so you won’t have to stay etc.” When he told her my DM was here, he called her “the old woman” and she responded “is she there to brag about how much money she has?” (My parents are fairly wealthy but not in an ostentatious way- they own property but drive a 15 year old car) She has also repeatedly told DH I’m angry and awful to be around as they’re not good enough for me. Everything he’s told her is a lie, but it’s like he wants to play little boy victim to his mother.

What on earth do I do? I confronted DH this morning- his response was he needed to vent somewhere, which is fair enough, but he wasn’t venting, he was lying and speaking about me in a very hostile and unpleasant way and actively lying. We argued recently as he took DS to mil with no car seat (10 minute journey) and they both had a moan about how I was still stomping my feet about it and being my usual unpleasant self.

What’s most confusing is to my face he’s lovely, we have the odd argument here and there but overall I thought we were happy, he constantly tells me how much he loves me, how happy he is etc but all the while messaging his mother how awful I am. We had a lovely day yesterday buying a Xmas tree and decorating etc and now I feel like my family is destroyed.

Ive spoken to my best friend and DB this morning- they both advised time to cool off before speaking to him to find out why he’s done this. I already know what he’ll say- he can’t get away from her etc, and really it doesn’t matter- how can I ever trust him again? This is the person who is supposed to be my biggest cheerleader but is actively assassinating my character to his mother. I suppose I want some reassurance I’m not overreacting? Is it enough to call it quits? I don’t want DS and DC2 to come from a broken home and I feel so ashamed and embarrassed to be in this situation- all the signs were there that they have an unhealthy relationship but I honestly never thought he would speak about me with such contempt. And worst of all I really do love him- he’s my best friend and when we have time just the 3 of us it’s wonderful. I know he can never go NC with in-laws as without him they’d be destitute, but I’m heartbroken about the situation.

WWYD?

OP posts:
Thepossibility · 10/12/2024 10:02

This is so chilling to me. He's making up lies about you to tell his mother for the fun of it. I would be gone, there is no possible excuse for this. He is no ally to you. Who does this to someone they even remotely care about? He's acting like you're their common enemy.

lemonlavendar · 10/12/2024 10:04

OP
I've just read your post. It's unforgivable that he's written such awful lies...even if they were true he shouldn't have messaged his mother, or anyone.
Bless your heart, it's heartbreaking.
Big hug from here.

1HappyTraveller · 10/12/2024 10:06

I’m so sorry you’re going through this OP. You’ve been absolutely blindsided by this. I’m genuinely shocked by how your story has unravelled. You sound like a great mum, your ‘D’H sounds like an absolute mummy’s boy and a selfish pr!ck. best of luck with whatever you decide to do. Sending supportive hugs 🫂

ToGiftOrNotToGift · 10/12/2024 10:16

@Helpinghand1234 - I am going to be blunt...

You have posted about your abusive husband several times, I think, and the verdict was always the same: you need to leave him. And yet here you are, pregnant, still wringing your hands at the abuse you are being subjected to. You need to approach this methodically, with a cool head, and preferably before this child is born.

Given the complicated property situation, you need competent legal advice. The longer you stay married, the greater the risk of your house being considered subsumed into marital property. You don’t want that - so please act now. Gather ALL financial documentation, including deeds for the farm (check land registry) and see an experienced family solicitor.

Useful resources: family solicitor websites, Wikivorce, Divorce for Dummies. You will feel infinitely better if you grapple this nettle with both hands! I wish you the best of luck.

Harry12345 · 10/12/2024 11:13

He’s not your best friend, he’s a toxic lying mummy’s boy who’s totally betrayed you, the fact he made out you were imagining things with his mum is shocking and basically gaslighting!! I wouldn’t get over this at this age, I did it in my 20s and the resentment has eaten me up the older I get! So sorry you are going through this you deserve way more

Dweetfidilove · 10/12/2024 11:19

Good Lord, this is disturbing behaviour.
I couldn't relax around someone so malicious.

SleepPrettyDarling · 10/12/2024 11:29

Send him home.

pikkumyy77 · 10/12/2024 12:14

Mouswife · 10/12/2024 07:32

He needs to be leaving now - off back to the farm with mummy. He only gets praise and support when he is the victim of your unpleasant behaviour - so he simply makes it all up!
leave the relationship. It will not work put long term.

This is very true. The family is very hostile to outsiders so he must constantly demonstrate to his mother that he is not really happy in his marriage or aligned with OP.

ConstanceM · 10/12/2024 12:25

Could be worse, your MIL could be skint and you have a mortgage. Ignore and rise above or be spiteful back. Either way you win.

CoolAuntie · 10/12/2024 14:55

She owned the house free and clear before he even came along. They're surviving off of her paycheck. She shouldn't leave at all. He's the one that should go crawling back and live with his mommy and daddy since it doesn't seem the umbilical cord is long enough to go that far anyway.

Julimia · 10/12/2024 15:20

It's MIL you need to speak to. She is the controlling factor here. Not saying that exempts him not at all but she is the one to be threatened with NC . He knows which way he should go and needs your support to be able to do it. It will always have been this way for him.

pikkumyy77 · 10/12/2024 15:48

You own the house. Don’t leave. Make him leave. Don’t divorce unless it makes s advantageous to you.be strategic.

LoveRicePudding · 10/12/2024 17:50

Poor you, he gaslighted you into relying on him. So sorry about that, genuinely.
He's an abuser and his dear mummy is an enabler.

Tessabelle74 · 10/12/2024 18:02

I'd be kicking him out of MY house and back to Mummy's which is where he clearly wants to be. Your children will pick up in this toxicity and will be joining in if you don't stop it. You're worth more than him, he's not the man you thought he was

saffronspices · 10/12/2024 18:04

He's got some explaining to do! Maybe he wants to move back in with mummy - maybe you should give him a hand xx

TheTavern · 10/12/2024 18:29

So he’s telling his mother all these lies about you so that he gets sympathy and you look like a lazy good for nothing lump. Why? Why is he compelled to do that?
Either he apologises and agrees to go for help or you have a long hard think about whether you want to remain with him or not.

Minc · 10/12/2024 18:56

How long have you and Oedipus been married?

pineapplesundae · 10/12/2024 19:09

Maybe invite the in-laws and over and insist hubby tells them the truth. If he's unwilling to confess, perhaps this is a deal breaker. He also needs to apologize in front of the family for the lies he's been telling.

diddl · 10/12/2024 19:35

If he "confesses" they likely won't believe it or think Op has forced him into it.

I mean if my son was telling me all this I'd think he was a complete idiot for staying married!

Hope you get out soon Op & don't lose your house in the process!

pollymere · 10/12/2024 19:56

I'd be asking him what he contributes... You don't really need him at all so he doesn't need to stick around if he feels you're not pulling your weight.

Emanresu52 · 10/12/2024 19:58

This is one of the most awful things I've read on MN. What a nasty lying two faced git.

UNFORGIVABLE!!!

I'd be going nuclear to his face and throwing him out soon after.

LittleMousewithcloggson · 10/12/2024 20:11

I hope you protected your ownership of the house when you married. Otherwise he has a claim. Make sure you can prove he hasn’t contributed and get legal advice now.
Makes me wonder if it was all a con job and they wanted half your assets - which would explain why his mum is saying he can leave soon and why they were upset about you being pregnant again.
I would have packed his bags, taken them to his mums and told his mum why!

Julietta05 · 10/12/2024 20:17

Have you formulated a plan? Maybe it would be worth consulting a solicitor for advice and take it from there?

wellington77 · 10/12/2024 20:28

Helpinghand1234 · 09/12/2024 12:09

Honest opinions please?

I (40f) am married to DH (41m) I’ve always had a tricky but civil relationship with in-laws. They’re overbearing and emeshed (farming family so everyone but them is an outsider)

Things got trickier when we married, then much much trickier when I had DS 15months ago. I’ve basically felt like a surrogate. MIL complains DS is a mummy’s boy, I shouldn’t have breast fed as no one else could feed him, DS doesn’t want to know her when I’m there, she’s not good enough when I’m around etc. If I complain to DH he says I’m stirring up trouble, imagining it or that’s just how she is. He works long hours keeping their farm afloat and has very little time at home in the evenings. When he does come home, at some point mil or fil will phone to see what DH had for dinner etc and ask how DS is. All of his money goes on keeping the farm afloat and my wages pay all our bills (I owned the home mortgage free before we married) When I complained to DH they were intruding on the little family time we had in the evenings the calls became less but constant messages to his phone, but I thought we had created some kind of boundary.

Im now 15 weeks pregnant with DC2. MIL and SIL had a very cold reaction when we told them, and it’s been niggling at me. DH has a way of making me feel like I’m imagining things, but this time I just
couldn’t convince myself that I was imagining it.

I know I’m totally in the wrong here and accept that fully, but this morning around 5am I couldn’t sleep and things were just going around and around my head. DH hadn’t put his phone to charge on his bedside table and it was on the middle of the bed. I unlocked it and started reading messages between him and MIL. I now know why she dislikes me so much. DH has called me lazy, told her there no dinner ready for him when he gets home, he’s had to do all the laundry as Id been lazy all day, I’ve had takeaway but there’s nothing for him, I’m angry and unpleasant/or I’m in a reasonable mood that night, he’s had to clean up my mess as the house was a tip, that I took my son without a coat and hat in the cold weather until he stopped me. He’s told her DS is saying Gran a lot which I’m not pleased about (DS says 3 words and gran isn’t even one of them). Every single thing is a lie.
In all the time we’ve been married I can count on one hand the times he’s come home with no meal ready, and that will be because I’ve just arrived home myself or I’m ill etc. I do all of the laundry (he wouldn’t know how to turn washing machine on) do all the housework (I doubt he knows where the hoover is) and have never taken DS out without either a sunhat or cold weather hat. He says he’s had too cook dinner, put DS to bed and is now cleaning my mess as I’m in bed. (I go to bed the same time as DS as he sleeps for around 3 hours and it’s the longest stretch of sleep I get- he’s then awake every hour/two hours to feed). MIL’s responses are “isn’t she lazy, she must have been in bed all day, she needs a good shake, don’t worry DS will grow soon so you won’t have to stay etc.” When he told her my DM was here, he called her “the old woman” and she responded “is she there to brag about how much money she has?” (My parents are fairly wealthy but not in an ostentatious way- they own property but drive a 15 year old car) She has also repeatedly told DH I’m angry and awful to be around as they’re not good enough for me. Everything he’s told her is a lie, but it’s like he wants to play little boy victim to his mother.

What on earth do I do? I confronted DH this morning- his response was he needed to vent somewhere, which is fair enough, but he wasn’t venting, he was lying and speaking about me in a very hostile and unpleasant way and actively lying. We argued recently as he took DS to mil with no car seat (10 minute journey) and they both had a moan about how I was still stomping my feet about it and being my usual unpleasant self.

What’s most confusing is to my face he’s lovely, we have the odd argument here and there but overall I thought we were happy, he constantly tells me how much he loves me, how happy he is etc but all the while messaging his mother how awful I am. We had a lovely day yesterday buying a Xmas tree and decorating etc and now I feel like my family is destroyed.

Ive spoken to my best friend and DB this morning- they both advised time to cool off before speaking to him to find out why he’s done this. I already know what he’ll say- he can’t get away from her etc, and really it doesn’t matter- how can I ever trust him again? This is the person who is supposed to be my biggest cheerleader but is actively assassinating my character to his mother. I suppose I want some reassurance I’m not overreacting? Is it enough to call it quits? I don’t want DS and DC2 to come from a broken home and I feel so ashamed and embarrassed to be in this situation- all the signs were there that they have an unhealthy relationship but I honestly never thought he would speak about me with such contempt. And worst of all I really do love him- he’s my best friend and when we have time just the 3 of us it’s wonderful. I know he can never go NC with in-laws as without him they’d be destitute, but I’m heartbroken about the situation.

WWYD?

I reckon if he wants you back he needs to own his shit and fess up to his mum big time about all the lies he’s been telling with you there in the room. Anything less I’d be leaving! He sounds awful

Grannyinnwaiting · 10/12/2024 20:33

Oh that's so horrible - I think this really is a problem- he needs to see someone if he's craving attention from his mother and getting this from lying - therapy and an open and honest conversation with MIL where he admits he's been lying and tried to address why is the only way out of this