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Husband insulting me to MIL

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Helpinghand1234 · 09/12/2024 12:09

Honest opinions please?

I (40f) am married to DH (41m) I’ve always had a tricky but civil relationship with in-laws. They’re overbearing and emeshed (farming family so everyone but them is an outsider)

Things got trickier when we married, then much much trickier when I had DS 15months ago. I’ve basically felt like a surrogate. MIL complains DS is a mummy’s boy, I shouldn’t have breast fed as no one else could feed him, DS doesn’t want to know her when I’m there, she’s not good enough when I’m around etc. If I complain to DH he says I’m stirring up trouble, imagining it or that’s just how she is. He works long hours keeping their farm afloat and has very little time at home in the evenings. When he does come home, at some point mil or fil will phone to see what DH had for dinner etc and ask how DS is. All of his money goes on keeping the farm afloat and my wages pay all our bills (I owned the home mortgage free before we married) When I complained to DH they were intruding on the little family time we had in the evenings the calls became less but constant messages to his phone, but I thought we had created some kind of boundary.

Im now 15 weeks pregnant with DC2. MIL and SIL had a very cold reaction when we told them, and it’s been niggling at me. DH has a way of making me feel like I’m imagining things, but this time I just
couldn’t convince myself that I was imagining it.

I know I’m totally in the wrong here and accept that fully, but this morning around 5am I couldn’t sleep and things were just going around and around my head. DH hadn’t put his phone to charge on his bedside table and it was on the middle of the bed. I unlocked it and started reading messages between him and MIL. I now know why she dislikes me so much. DH has called me lazy, told her there no dinner ready for him when he gets home, he’s had to do all the laundry as Id been lazy all day, I’ve had takeaway but there’s nothing for him, I’m angry and unpleasant/or I’m in a reasonable mood that night, he’s had to clean up my mess as the house was a tip, that I took my son without a coat and hat in the cold weather until he stopped me. He’s told her DS is saying Gran a lot which I’m not pleased about (DS says 3 words and gran isn’t even one of them). Every single thing is a lie.
In all the time we’ve been married I can count on one hand the times he’s come home with no meal ready, and that will be because I’ve just arrived home myself or I’m ill etc. I do all of the laundry (he wouldn’t know how to turn washing machine on) do all the housework (I doubt he knows where the hoover is) and have never taken DS out without either a sunhat or cold weather hat. He says he’s had too cook dinner, put DS to bed and is now cleaning my mess as I’m in bed. (I go to bed the same time as DS as he sleeps for around 3 hours and it’s the longest stretch of sleep I get- he’s then awake every hour/two hours to feed). MIL’s responses are “isn’t she lazy, she must have been in bed all day, she needs a good shake, don’t worry DS will grow soon so you won’t have to stay etc.” When he told her my DM was here, he called her “the old woman” and she responded “is she there to brag about how much money she has?” (My parents are fairly wealthy but not in an ostentatious way- they own property but drive a 15 year old car) She has also repeatedly told DH I’m angry and awful to be around as they’re not good enough for me. Everything he’s told her is a lie, but it’s like he wants to play little boy victim to his mother.

What on earth do I do? I confronted DH this morning- his response was he needed to vent somewhere, which is fair enough, but he wasn’t venting, he was lying and speaking about me in a very hostile and unpleasant way and actively lying. We argued recently as he took DS to mil with no car seat (10 minute journey) and they both had a moan about how I was still stomping my feet about it and being my usual unpleasant self.

What’s most confusing is to my face he’s lovely, we have the odd argument here and there but overall I thought we were happy, he constantly tells me how much he loves me, how happy he is etc but all the while messaging his mother how awful I am. We had a lovely day yesterday buying a Xmas tree and decorating etc and now I feel like my family is destroyed.

Ive spoken to my best friend and DB this morning- they both advised time to cool off before speaking to him to find out why he’s done this. I already know what he’ll say- he can’t get away from her etc, and really it doesn’t matter- how can I ever trust him again? This is the person who is supposed to be my biggest cheerleader but is actively assassinating my character to his mother. I suppose I want some reassurance I’m not overreacting? Is it enough to call it quits? I don’t want DS and DC2 to come from a broken home and I feel so ashamed and embarrassed to be in this situation- all the signs were there that they have an unhealthy relationship but I honestly never thought he would speak about me with such contempt. And worst of all I really do love him- he’s my best friend and when we have time just the 3 of us it’s wonderful. I know he can never go NC with in-laws as without him they’d be destitute, but I’m heartbroken about the situation.

WWYD?

OP posts:
Codlingmoths · 10/12/2024 20:36

Julimia · 10/12/2024 15:20

It's MIL you need to speak to. She is the controlling factor here. Not saying that exempts him not at all but she is the one to be threatened with NC . He knows which way he should go and needs your support to be able to do it. It will always have been this way for him.

its him. He’s the one been lying repeatedly about everything his wife does for him and who she is, who’s been making up long lists of nasty things about her.

Mrsgreen100 · 10/12/2024 20:37

I had an ex like this that, I couldn’t get my head around why his whole family seemed to loath me, even though I made huge efforts hosted huge Christmases et cetera et cetera. I finally woke up
dumped him (30 dam wasted years )
turned out he was being toxic all the time his family where arranging stuff months ahead etc giving him the heads up …
he never told me anything until the actual day
of course other plans in place etc
it made me look awful in their eyes etc
30 years on it turned out he had a whole separate life had been defrauding me and stealing from my business. He also stole his daughter‘s uniform and saving Side put aside for her and he’s about to marry the other woman. Meanwhile, he’s got another one on the side she doesn’t know about my daughter said to me mum you know his family hate you don’t you . they always have I found out that he has got Npd actually cover narcissist when I kicked him out his mother called me and said oh you’re so wicked he’s got no money. I’m having to buy his groceries. He has stolen £800,000 for me over 20 years.
It’s pointless saying anything because they would never believe me because he has been working away for years to make me look like a baddie there’s a lot of really fucked up boys out there. I blame their mother.

Mrsgreen100 · 10/12/2024 20:38

Apologies for typo university fund, covert Narcissist!!!

catlover123456789 · 10/12/2024 20:39

I've read some pretty shocking things here on mumsnet, but the absolute two-faced, lying shittery of this is staggering. I am so sorry that the person you were meant to be able to trust most in this world has done this to you, it's unforgivable.

ThistleTits · 10/12/2024 20:45

@Helpinghand1234 that's horrible and I'm incredibly sorry your husband has done this.
Your children will be better off cmg from a broken home, than a poison laden family. Are you there to provide children to continue the family farm?
Please do not equate the odd nice day with being a happy loving family, your husband is ensuring you don't not have one.
I think I would copy and save the messages. I would also fill the mil in on his lies and your truth. I could never continue the relationship with him. The mil I could forgive, she is basing her knowledge of you on his lies.
Good luck.

chipsaway · 10/12/2024 20:49

I’m sorry but this is a red flag for me. He is a narcissist.
this has been done to me but I didnt find out until he had had an afffair. Loving to me. Couldn’t do enough.

When it all came out in the open about the affair, his brother said I deserved it after all I had put him through. Apparently I wouldn’t let me see his friends, didn’t cook a meal. He was out every night of the week and a meal on the table.
I would challenge him in front of mother in law and tell him to get out!
Like you said if he loves you, he would be your best mate, your cheerleader not slagging you off.
If it was your friend at school doing this behind your back would you still want to be friends

HoundsOfSmell · 10/12/2024 21:16

Ask why he has told so many lies. Tell him you’re blown away by the endless lies he has told his family and he has to leave. You’re meant to be a team, how can you ever trust him again when he tells lie after lie to his family, destroying your good standing and their relationship with you.

id also message his sister and mum and tell them you’d read his messages to them and have asked him to leave your home. You can’t bare to be in a relationship with someone who has lied to such a cronic degree. Non of what he says is true and you don’t undertake why he has said such damaging things

Bernardo1 · 10/12/2024 22:04

thepariscrimefiles · 09/12/2024 12:16

There is a big difference from him not sticking up for you when your MIL complains about you and badmouths you and him making up a load of absolutely toxic lies about you.

How can you even look at him after this? He wouldn't be able to work on the family farm for no money without your house and your wages. You are a great mother to your shared child and he pretends that you do nothing and that you are a bad and neglectful mother?

How can you stay with him after this? His behaviour is unforgivable.

This!

Horses7 · 10/12/2024 22:11

Unforgivable - you and your children are worth so much more than being part of this toxic relationship.

Shotokan101 · 10/12/2024 23:13

You have to confront him, and don't let him try to def,Oct the problem with his behaviour by trying to have a go at you about you "snooping" on his phone.

Sorry, but it looks like the in-laws are tge least of your problems here, though not to trivialise their unreasonable coercive behaviour....

Jim ❤️‍🩹

MadnessIsMyMiddleName · 10/12/2024 23:31

You said that before you got together you owned your home mortgage free OP, does this mean that you've now mortgaged it, possibly to prop up his parent's farm?

Personally I would struggle to forgive him for badmouthing you to his mother, but if as you say, he's lied about you to make you sound bad, that is beyond forgiveness in my book. I would therefore be telling him that if you're so awful, and his parents so wonderful, then he can clear off back and live with them.

I would also be giving very serious consideration as to whether or not to continue with this pregnancy OP, as it doesn't sound like now is a good time to be bringing another child into the mix. Time to do some serious sole searching, I think!!

kurotora · 10/12/2024 23:33

I feel for you OP. I was in a relationship with a guy from a weird, enmeshed family and he did something similar to me - told his mother than I did nothing around the house, didn’t ever cook, I stopped him cooking the healthy food he liked and it made him get fat, I wouldn’t let him talk to friends etc etc. I have no idea why he did it, to this day other than he was a very warped human being.

oneeggisunoeuf · 10/12/2024 23:47

I couldn't forgive this. Kick him out back to mummy.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 10/12/2024 23:54

I remember your previous thread regarding this prince.

I am surprised you have chosen to have a 2nd child with him, I would have been long gone by now.

MelodyFinch · 11/12/2024 00:25

He really has dealt your relationship a death blow. I agree with the people who say walk away from this screwed up mess. Lord knows when it began - this role playing with his mum - it will have a source - can you be bothered to find out? Marriage counselling would get to the root of it, but it might take years. If he wants to save your relationship, he needs to tell his mother in front of you that it was all a fabrication. He also needs to commit to Relationship counselling with you. It will be a mammoth task but you say you love him. Try this and see if it can be saved or walk away. I am so sorry. Without a remedy this will cause you much more pain.

lovelysunshine22 · 11/12/2024 00:29

Helpinghand1234 · 09/12/2024 12:09

Honest opinions please?

I (40f) am married to DH (41m) I’ve always had a tricky but civil relationship with in-laws. They’re overbearing and emeshed (farming family so everyone but them is an outsider)

Things got trickier when we married, then much much trickier when I had DS 15months ago. I’ve basically felt like a surrogate. MIL complains DS is a mummy’s boy, I shouldn’t have breast fed as no one else could feed him, DS doesn’t want to know her when I’m there, she’s not good enough when I’m around etc. If I complain to DH he says I’m stirring up trouble, imagining it or that’s just how she is. He works long hours keeping their farm afloat and has very little time at home in the evenings. When he does come home, at some point mil or fil will phone to see what DH had for dinner etc and ask how DS is. All of his money goes on keeping the farm afloat and my wages pay all our bills (I owned the home mortgage free before we married) When I complained to DH they were intruding on the little family time we had in the evenings the calls became less but constant messages to his phone, but I thought we had created some kind of boundary.

Im now 15 weeks pregnant with DC2. MIL and SIL had a very cold reaction when we told them, and it’s been niggling at me. DH has a way of making me feel like I’m imagining things, but this time I just
couldn’t convince myself that I was imagining it.

I know I’m totally in the wrong here and accept that fully, but this morning around 5am I couldn’t sleep and things were just going around and around my head. DH hadn’t put his phone to charge on his bedside table and it was on the middle of the bed. I unlocked it and started reading messages between him and MIL. I now know why she dislikes me so much. DH has called me lazy, told her there no dinner ready for him when he gets home, he’s had to do all the laundry as Id been lazy all day, I’ve had takeaway but there’s nothing for him, I’m angry and unpleasant/or I’m in a reasonable mood that night, he’s had to clean up my mess as the house was a tip, that I took my son without a coat and hat in the cold weather until he stopped me. He’s told her DS is saying Gran a lot which I’m not pleased about (DS says 3 words and gran isn’t even one of them). Every single thing is a lie.
In all the time we’ve been married I can count on one hand the times he’s come home with no meal ready, and that will be because I’ve just arrived home myself or I’m ill etc. I do all of the laundry (he wouldn’t know how to turn washing machine on) do all the housework (I doubt he knows where the hoover is) and have never taken DS out without either a sunhat or cold weather hat. He says he’s had too cook dinner, put DS to bed and is now cleaning my mess as I’m in bed. (I go to bed the same time as DS as he sleeps for around 3 hours and it’s the longest stretch of sleep I get- he’s then awake every hour/two hours to feed). MIL’s responses are “isn’t she lazy, she must have been in bed all day, she needs a good shake, don’t worry DS will grow soon so you won’t have to stay etc.” When he told her my DM was here, he called her “the old woman” and she responded “is she there to brag about how much money she has?” (My parents are fairly wealthy but not in an ostentatious way- they own property but drive a 15 year old car) She has also repeatedly told DH I’m angry and awful to be around as they’re not good enough for me. Everything he’s told her is a lie, but it’s like he wants to play little boy victim to his mother.

What on earth do I do? I confronted DH this morning- his response was he needed to vent somewhere, which is fair enough, but he wasn’t venting, he was lying and speaking about me in a very hostile and unpleasant way and actively lying. We argued recently as he took DS to mil with no car seat (10 minute journey) and they both had a moan about how I was still stomping my feet about it and being my usual unpleasant self.

What’s most confusing is to my face he’s lovely, we have the odd argument here and there but overall I thought we were happy, he constantly tells me how much he loves me, how happy he is etc but all the while messaging his mother how awful I am. We had a lovely day yesterday buying a Xmas tree and decorating etc and now I feel like my family is destroyed.

Ive spoken to my best friend and DB this morning- they both advised time to cool off before speaking to him to find out why he’s done this. I already know what he’ll say- he can’t get away from her etc, and really it doesn’t matter- how can I ever trust him again? This is the person who is supposed to be my biggest cheerleader but is actively assassinating my character to his mother. I suppose I want some reassurance I’m not overreacting? Is it enough to call it quits? I don’t want DS and DC2 to come from a broken home and I feel so ashamed and embarrassed to be in this situation- all the signs were there that they have an unhealthy relationship but I honestly never thought he would speak about me with such contempt. And worst of all I really do love him- he’s my best friend and when we have time just the 3 of us it’s wonderful. I know he can never go NC with in-laws as without him they’d be destitute, but I’m heartbroken about the situation.

WWYD?

Op my ex husband used to do exactly this and not just to my MIL but literally everyone! Its an awful trait to have and he won't change! Please leave him and take yourself and your dc out of this toxic environment.

Thatcastlethere · 11/12/2024 00:35

Omg I'd really be heartbroken. And then I'd be livid. How can the relationship survive that? I'm not sure I'd want it to survive because I could never trust him again. It sounds like deep down he has zero respect for you or anything you do for him. I can imagine your entire world is shaken. This isn't OK and it's not normal. Lying is not just venting. It's really weird behaviour from him. It's also extremely misogynistic. Why do you always have to have dinner ready for him, why do you do all the night wakings get up with the baby etc.. when you bloody also pay all the bills and own the home?!? wtf??
What does he actually bring to the table here?
You say you love him and he's your best friend... but he's doing nothing fir you and talks trash about you...
I'd be kicking him out tbh.
Let him go home to mummy.
What do you need him for?
I know you've a young child and one on the way but I really hope you find the strength to send him on his way because you deserve better.

Nantescalling · 11/12/2024 01:01

This is no place for you to be. More importantly, it is no place for your kids to be. A bed of lies and insults because of this weird hold his mother has over him. They are both disfunctional people and the sooner you get your children out of their clutches, the better.

Nantescalling · 11/12/2024 01:22

Cyclebabble · 09/12/2024 18:15

Hi OP. I am really sorry this must have been horrid to see. You are right that you are now in serious territory and you need to think carefully what you do next. I would leave it a couple of days and then have another discussion with DH. Ask him why an earth he thought it was good to do this, and does he understand how this has made you feel? What he has done is to build/reinforce their view of you by using lies and deceit. You would need to see massive change to continue this marriage and he needs to know that you are on the edge.

Why should she even have to be dealing with him any more. What does she have to gain by getting him to see her point of view. He would just see this as weakness

Firethehorse · 11/12/2024 02:46

OP I felt I had to respond.
Please leave this man, he is not your best friend or your partner in the true sense of the word.
If you can’t do it for yourself do it for your children. Ensure you tell your parents everything, you need them on your side 100% and it sounds like you need their resolve to go through with this.
I really hope the house is just yours

saffronspices · 11/12/2024 03:27

I've been through this. He's a mummy's boy. She calls the shots and if he doesn't tell her what she wants to hear when she complains about you then his life isn't worth living. If he doesn't do what she wants she'll keep on at him until he gives in and gives her what she wants - that shuts her up. She says negative things about you & your son to get attention thereby taking his attention off his wife & child and onto her. Clearly you 2 should be his priority but he's got to keep her sweet too - whoever he sides with he can't win with the other. He finds it easier to make you feel like shit so you'll do what she wants & that gets him an easier life.

So many relationships have this issue but I've never heard one this bad. She's making him choose and the only way to passify his mother is to agree with her, even if it is at your expense.

Justkeepswiimming · 11/12/2024 07:13

End this now. This is absolutely vile. You are not overreacting. This is absolutely below the belt. My ex did similar to his mother. She would get involved in our marriage breakdown which was of course my fault. You are correct. He should be your biggest cheerleader, particularly to hostile in laws. Ad it is if he's saying these things, he's at least thinking them. Which is shocking enough. He's treating you like doormat and giving you no credit for it. I mean expecting his dinner on the table when he gets in. You sound like a saint because I wouldn't be doing this all the time. Is this the example you want setting for your ds?

Dogsbreath7 · 11/12/2024 07:39

I voted you are unreasonable because at the end after everything you had written you said you loved him and he was your best friend.

get a grip of yourself. If it’s your home send him packing to his mum. He is contributing nothing to your life. I hope you took screen shots.

get thee to a solicitor. Now.

there is no guarantee he will inherit the farm and if he isn’t bring money get double rid.

ThisZanyPinkSquid · 11/12/2024 09:19

He has such a lack of respect for you I would leave. He’s lying to get attention from mummy which is ridiculous at his age 🙄

sounds like the home is yours so I would be giving him his books and make sure he knows why. How can you trust him again 🤷🏼‍♀️

Fraaahnces · 11/12/2024 09:35

The issue isn’t that you love him @Helpinghand1234. The issue is that you have allowed him into your head like a brain cancer and you don’t love yourself enough to think that you deserve any better. You can’t see that better includes not having him in your life at all. The other part of this is that you don’t love your kids enough to show them that their mother is worth more than this and they don’t have to become her saviors or her next abusers. If you get yourself out, you also break the cycle for them in your home and the sooner you do - the better.

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