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Husband insulting me to MIL

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Helpinghand1234 · 09/12/2024 12:09

Honest opinions please?

I (40f) am married to DH (41m) I’ve always had a tricky but civil relationship with in-laws. They’re overbearing and emeshed (farming family so everyone but them is an outsider)

Things got trickier when we married, then much much trickier when I had DS 15months ago. I’ve basically felt like a surrogate. MIL complains DS is a mummy’s boy, I shouldn’t have breast fed as no one else could feed him, DS doesn’t want to know her when I’m there, she’s not good enough when I’m around etc. If I complain to DH he says I’m stirring up trouble, imagining it or that’s just how she is. He works long hours keeping their farm afloat and has very little time at home in the evenings. When he does come home, at some point mil or fil will phone to see what DH had for dinner etc and ask how DS is. All of his money goes on keeping the farm afloat and my wages pay all our bills (I owned the home mortgage free before we married) When I complained to DH they were intruding on the little family time we had in the evenings the calls became less but constant messages to his phone, but I thought we had created some kind of boundary.

Im now 15 weeks pregnant with DC2. MIL and SIL had a very cold reaction when we told them, and it’s been niggling at me. DH has a way of making me feel like I’m imagining things, but this time I just
couldn’t convince myself that I was imagining it.

I know I’m totally in the wrong here and accept that fully, but this morning around 5am I couldn’t sleep and things were just going around and around my head. DH hadn’t put his phone to charge on his bedside table and it was on the middle of the bed. I unlocked it and started reading messages between him and MIL. I now know why she dislikes me so much. DH has called me lazy, told her there no dinner ready for him when he gets home, he’s had to do all the laundry as Id been lazy all day, I’ve had takeaway but there’s nothing for him, I’m angry and unpleasant/or I’m in a reasonable mood that night, he’s had to clean up my mess as the house was a tip, that I took my son without a coat and hat in the cold weather until he stopped me. He’s told her DS is saying Gran a lot which I’m not pleased about (DS says 3 words and gran isn’t even one of them). Every single thing is a lie.
In all the time we’ve been married I can count on one hand the times he’s come home with no meal ready, and that will be because I’ve just arrived home myself or I’m ill etc. I do all of the laundry (he wouldn’t know how to turn washing machine on) do all the housework (I doubt he knows where the hoover is) and have never taken DS out without either a sunhat or cold weather hat. He says he’s had too cook dinner, put DS to bed and is now cleaning my mess as I’m in bed. (I go to bed the same time as DS as he sleeps for around 3 hours and it’s the longest stretch of sleep I get- he’s then awake every hour/two hours to feed). MIL’s responses are “isn’t she lazy, she must have been in bed all day, she needs a good shake, don’t worry DS will grow soon so you won’t have to stay etc.” When he told her my DM was here, he called her “the old woman” and she responded “is she there to brag about how much money she has?” (My parents are fairly wealthy but not in an ostentatious way- they own property but drive a 15 year old car) She has also repeatedly told DH I’m angry and awful to be around as they’re not good enough for me. Everything he’s told her is a lie, but it’s like he wants to play little boy victim to his mother.

What on earth do I do? I confronted DH this morning- his response was he needed to vent somewhere, which is fair enough, but he wasn’t venting, he was lying and speaking about me in a very hostile and unpleasant way and actively lying. We argued recently as he took DS to mil with no car seat (10 minute journey) and they both had a moan about how I was still stomping my feet about it and being my usual unpleasant self.

What’s most confusing is to my face he’s lovely, we have the odd argument here and there but overall I thought we were happy, he constantly tells me how much he loves me, how happy he is etc but all the while messaging his mother how awful I am. We had a lovely day yesterday buying a Xmas tree and decorating etc and now I feel like my family is destroyed.

Ive spoken to my best friend and DB this morning- they both advised time to cool off before speaking to him to find out why he’s done this. I already know what he’ll say- he can’t get away from her etc, and really it doesn’t matter- how can I ever trust him again? This is the person who is supposed to be my biggest cheerleader but is actively assassinating my character to his mother. I suppose I want some reassurance I’m not overreacting? Is it enough to call it quits? I don’t want DS and DC2 to come from a broken home and I feel so ashamed and embarrassed to be in this situation- all the signs were there that they have an unhealthy relationship but I honestly never thought he would speak about me with such contempt. And worst of all I really do love him- he’s my best friend and when we have time just the 3 of us it’s wonderful. I know he can never go NC with in-laws as without him they’d be destitute, but I’m heartbroken about the situation.

WWYD?

OP posts:
Mouswife · 10/12/2024 07:32

He needs to be leaving now - off back to the farm with mummy. He only gets praise and support when he is the victim of your unpleasant behaviour - so he simply makes it all up!
leave the relationship. It will not work put long term.

NestaArcheron · 10/12/2024 07:36

It's your house, so he can fuck off back to the farm with his wonderful mummy can't he.

If he'd had a little moan after a row, I'd get it - but that level of lies and vitriol? No. There would be no coming back from that for me, and I am usually the one on mumsnet calling other posters dramatic for chanting LTB after minor shit, but this isn't minor. There is no respect, for you as his wife or as his children's mother. I'm so sorry this happened, it must be such a shock, but please do post here for support and know that you are making the right choice for you and your children's futures.

Oodydoody · 10/12/2024 07:43

Definitely get him out of your home.

ScarfsAndHats · 10/12/2024 07:49

I don’t think your in laws are the problem, you have a MAJOR husband problem. I can imagine they would turn cold towards you with the negative stuff he’s spouting about you to them.
I really don’t know what I would do in your situation.
could it be that he only married you because you had a mortgage free house and a job that would cover the bills? It sounds like he hasn’t had to change much in his life, except move into another house and another bed (providing sex). Did he pay you part of the mortgage when he moved in? Please say he’s not on the house deeds now simply through marriage. Does he not contribute anything towards bills???
If he just got into the house deeds through marriage this is all very convenient for him. Remember there will be zero incentive for him to leave or divorce because by the sounds of it he can’t afford to buy or rent something else (or he can but is pretending to put everything into the farm).
I would get legal advice about the house, get a divorce and kick him out (hopefully that is possible). Try to take photos of the messages to have proof of what’s been going on before he deletes them.

RoxyRoo2011 · 10/12/2024 07:52

Won’t be easy as you’re pregnant but GET THE HELL OUT OF THIS MARRIAGE. Run and don’t ever look back. You’re solvent without him and he clearly brings naff all to the table.

Janus · 10/12/2024 08:01

I’m so sorry, this must have been truly awful to read. I think the only way this could even possibly be saved is if he took you there and sat everyone down and told them he’d made it all up and try and explain why. I’m not sure that would actual solve it but I’d at least want him to do that.
I hope you have good friends and family to lean on.

Thursday5pmisginoclock · 10/12/2024 08:04

So sorry you have this to deal with when pregnant but just get yourself away and close to family for support. Having two children solo is hard but he sounds like the 3rd child you don’t need. He needs a cold hard shock that this behaviour is completely unreasonable. You know in your gut if he will change or not butt that relationship with his mother sounds toxic and unlikely to turnaround.

SpryCat · 10/12/2024 08:08

It’s your house that was paid up long before he came on the scene, he is working all the hours at the farm and not bringing any money back nor doing any child rearing so kicking him out won’t make a difference apart from not having to put up with a lying worm of a husband.
You hold all the cards, you can’t make him change but you can make life for you and your children better without him.

Fraaahnces · 10/12/2024 08:09

You have been told over and over and over to get a bloody solicitor.

betterangels · 10/12/2024 08:11

I hope this time is enough for you to actually leave.

Calmhappyandhealthy · 10/12/2024 08:16

Fraaahnces · 10/12/2024 08:09

You have been told over and over and over to get a bloody solicitor.

Has this problem with the DH/MIL arisen before?

This is the first time I've read about it

Emmz1510 · 10/12/2024 08:17

This is absolutely horrid and I could feel myself boiling up with rage reading this.
I don’t think I could come back from this.
If I was even going to consider this three conditions would have to be fulfilled

1 I’d need a full, frank and honest explanation why he’d done this and to be 100% convinced he did actually love me and didn’t mean what he’d said. I suspect he had an emotionally neglectful childhood with a narcissistic mother and the only way to get his needs met and keep her close was to tell her what he thought she wanted to hear. That’s not an excuse but if he could at least show insight into why he’d done this he might have a shot at being forgiven.
2 He would need to tell her he’d lied and tell the reality of you and your relationship.
3 He needs to commit and remain committed to putting you and his child first at all times from now on.

He also might want to consider therapy.

Welshmonster · 10/12/2024 08:19

check what happens as you are married and so will he have a claim on your house? Get a consultation with a solicitor

Mummyto2boyz · 10/12/2024 08:20

It sounds like his mother is very toxic but that's no excuse for slagging off his wife behind her back. My ex wouldn't even do that as I'm the mother of his children.
I'm sorry but it's never going to change. Coming from a broken home is better than living in one. You will never recover from this betrayal. Everytime he messages anyone you will wonder if its another lie about you.
And by the way, even if you didn't have dinner ready every night for him you have a young child. You don't need any excuse other than that.

Calliopespa · 10/12/2024 08:22

I’m so sorry oP , and haven’t had to to rtft in full; but I’m really glad you read those text messages.

This is not venting. It is complete betrayal and contempt for you.

As hard as it is to say this, you are being used to fund them. There is clearly no deeper real affection than that. The “ bragging about money comment” says it all really. You and your mum probably don’t think about it often, yet how telling that it was foremost in MIL’s mind.

Say no more to him or his DM, get a solicitor, confide in your mum and plan a support plan for when you kick him out once you have your ducks in a row. Take what the solicitor advises is the most you can. They are vile users.

Codlingmoths · 10/12/2024 08:28

That is not venting. That is awful abusive nasty lies and a betrayal of everything you thought you had. It’s his fault he has to choose now and his fault he’s going to lose his children because he was a horrible lying asshole about his children’s mother and unable to pick you. This is a total deal breaker, I’d ask him to leave and say I will if you won’t, you’ve chosen not to be a husband or to support the mother of your children and all I’m doing is reacting appropriately.

The only possible way back is if he tells his parents line by line that each of your messages was a lie and all that you do (have done) for him and take a break from them, zero contact in the evenings, full access to his phone and zero access to your children unless you are there and supportive and maybe that’s in 6 months maybe that’s in 5 years who the fuck knows how you will feel after the lies he’s told??

Calliopespa · 10/12/2024 08:28

Incidentally, some of the lies and vitriol towards you will be driven by guilt about the fact he knows he is using you. When people are mistreating others, to deal with their internal shame they often try to mentally recast the “ victim” as deserving it.
The MIL, in fairness to her, might believe him, in which case some of her reactions are, up to a point, understandable. She isn’t the real problem here.

NotMeForBakeoff · 10/12/2024 08:28

Let his mummy have her precious son back and go. Have you posted about this before - maybe before you had kids? Of so, it's been a long time coming.

NotMeForBakeoff · 10/12/2024 08:30

Fraaahnces · 10/12/2024 08:09

You have been told over and over and over to get a bloody solicitor.

Is this the same poster from way back?

Calliopespa · 10/12/2024 08:30

NestaArcheron · 10/12/2024 07:36

It's your house, so he can fuck off back to the farm with his wonderful mummy can't he.

If he'd had a little moan after a row, I'd get it - but that level of lies and vitriol? No. There would be no coming back from that for me, and I am usually the one on mumsnet calling other posters dramatic for chanting LTB after minor shit, but this isn't minor. There is no respect, for you as his wife or as his children's mother. I'm so sorry this happened, it must be such a shock, but please do post here for support and know that you are making the right choice for you and your children's futures.

It’s not quite so simple as it being her house after marriage.

OP needs legal advice before calling shots so she knows how best to position herself.

Calliopespa · 10/12/2024 08:35

NestaArcheron · 10/12/2024 07:36

It's your house, so he can fuck off back to the farm with his wonderful mummy can't he.

If he'd had a little moan after a row, I'd get it - but that level of lies and vitriol? No. There would be no coming back from that for me, and I am usually the one on mumsnet calling other posters dramatic for chanting LTB after minor shit, but this isn't minor. There is no respect, for you as his wife or as his children's mother. I'm so sorry this happened, it must be such a shock, but please do post here for support and know that you are making the right choice for you and your children's futures.

Yes I’m reading the thread backwards and I am the same as this poster op: normally the one saying don’t shout LTB in a trigger-happy way as marriages are more complicated than that. BUT this is a shocker. The sustained belittling of you behind your back when you are supporting him as you are is frightening.

I’m just so pleased you read those texts. It’s like the moment when the little red hen notices she is being stalked by the hungry fox.

IdylicDay · 10/12/2024 08:57

Wow! He really is evil! You are living with someone who HATES you. He actively hates you! I wouldn't be surprised if his family told him he had to get married to have children to keep the family/farm bloodline going and he married you because he was expected to marry someone. But its very clear he never loved you and this is a marriage of convenience for him. Sort of like Charles and Diana (minus Camilla). Unfortunately he was never your friend ever at all, let alone your 'best' friend.

Your whole entire life was a lie.

You were lured into a marriage not out of love but convenience. And you and your children deserve far better. Please leave asap. Do you have family/parents you can stay with and spend Christmas with, maybe move in with for the time being?

Jiski · 10/12/2024 09:13

You need to get rid of him but you also need to somehow get him to text you and say he was lying so they can’t his fake texts against you in a custody battle.

You don’t want your children thinking this kind of relationship is appropriate. It’s better you are divorced than together.

BonfireToffee · 10/12/2024 09:23

Helpinghand1234 · 09/12/2024 13:58

Thank you for the responses. I know you’re all right, the relationship is over, I can’t ever trust him again, and the more I re read the messages (I took pics on my phone) the more furious I’m becoming, how dare they speak about me in the way they do. I’m just going to take some time to digest everything and figure out what the new future looks like. I’m furious and heartbroken, but I’ll be damned if my children get pulled into this mess, so the sooner I get away the better, it’s just hard letting go of the future I had imagined as a family.

I’m so sorry he’s done this to you, OP. What an evil man, and I can’t believe how shaken you must be. You and your children deserve infinitely better 🌷

YourWildAmberSloth · 10/12/2024 09:44

He is basically a pathological liar - not sure how you get around that tbh or move forward. I honestly don't think I could but, the starting point (and this would be totally non-negotiable) would be that he tells his family the truth - with you there. The next step would be therapy, he needs it, and again this would be non-negotiable. He is not your best-friend, he has been shitting on for months/years while smiling in your face, knowing the impact that his lies were having on your relationship with his family. Think about what happens when those lies reach your children's ears - as they will. A broken home is better than a toxic one.