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Husband insulting me to MIL

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Helpinghand1234 · 09/12/2024 12:09

Honest opinions please?

I (40f) am married to DH (41m) I’ve always had a tricky but civil relationship with in-laws. They’re overbearing and emeshed (farming family so everyone but them is an outsider)

Things got trickier when we married, then much much trickier when I had DS 15months ago. I’ve basically felt like a surrogate. MIL complains DS is a mummy’s boy, I shouldn’t have breast fed as no one else could feed him, DS doesn’t want to know her when I’m there, she’s not good enough when I’m around etc. If I complain to DH he says I’m stirring up trouble, imagining it or that’s just how she is. He works long hours keeping their farm afloat and has very little time at home in the evenings. When he does come home, at some point mil or fil will phone to see what DH had for dinner etc and ask how DS is. All of his money goes on keeping the farm afloat and my wages pay all our bills (I owned the home mortgage free before we married) When I complained to DH they were intruding on the little family time we had in the evenings the calls became less but constant messages to his phone, but I thought we had created some kind of boundary.

Im now 15 weeks pregnant with DC2. MIL and SIL had a very cold reaction when we told them, and it’s been niggling at me. DH has a way of making me feel like I’m imagining things, but this time I just
couldn’t convince myself that I was imagining it.

I know I’m totally in the wrong here and accept that fully, but this morning around 5am I couldn’t sleep and things were just going around and around my head. DH hadn’t put his phone to charge on his bedside table and it was on the middle of the bed. I unlocked it and started reading messages between him and MIL. I now know why she dislikes me so much. DH has called me lazy, told her there no dinner ready for him when he gets home, he’s had to do all the laundry as Id been lazy all day, I’ve had takeaway but there’s nothing for him, I’m angry and unpleasant/or I’m in a reasonable mood that night, he’s had to clean up my mess as the house was a tip, that I took my son without a coat and hat in the cold weather until he stopped me. He’s told her DS is saying Gran a lot which I’m not pleased about (DS says 3 words and gran isn’t even one of them). Every single thing is a lie.
In all the time we’ve been married I can count on one hand the times he’s come home with no meal ready, and that will be because I’ve just arrived home myself or I’m ill etc. I do all of the laundry (he wouldn’t know how to turn washing machine on) do all the housework (I doubt he knows where the hoover is) and have never taken DS out without either a sunhat or cold weather hat. He says he’s had too cook dinner, put DS to bed and is now cleaning my mess as I’m in bed. (I go to bed the same time as DS as he sleeps for around 3 hours and it’s the longest stretch of sleep I get- he’s then awake every hour/two hours to feed). MIL’s responses are “isn’t she lazy, she must have been in bed all day, she needs a good shake, don’t worry DS will grow soon so you won’t have to stay etc.” When he told her my DM was here, he called her “the old woman” and she responded “is she there to brag about how much money she has?” (My parents are fairly wealthy but not in an ostentatious way- they own property but drive a 15 year old car) She has also repeatedly told DH I’m angry and awful to be around as they’re not good enough for me. Everything he’s told her is a lie, but it’s like he wants to play little boy victim to his mother.

What on earth do I do? I confronted DH this morning- his response was he needed to vent somewhere, which is fair enough, but he wasn’t venting, he was lying and speaking about me in a very hostile and unpleasant way and actively lying. We argued recently as he took DS to mil with no car seat (10 minute journey) and they both had a moan about how I was still stomping my feet about it and being my usual unpleasant self.

What’s most confusing is to my face he’s lovely, we have the odd argument here and there but overall I thought we were happy, he constantly tells me how much he loves me, how happy he is etc but all the while messaging his mother how awful I am. We had a lovely day yesterday buying a Xmas tree and decorating etc and now I feel like my family is destroyed.

Ive spoken to my best friend and DB this morning- they both advised time to cool off before speaking to him to find out why he’s done this. I already know what he’ll say- he can’t get away from her etc, and really it doesn’t matter- how can I ever trust him again? This is the person who is supposed to be my biggest cheerleader but is actively assassinating my character to his mother. I suppose I want some reassurance I’m not overreacting? Is it enough to call it quits? I don’t want DS and DC2 to come from a broken home and I feel so ashamed and embarrassed to be in this situation- all the signs were there that they have an unhealthy relationship but I honestly never thought he would speak about me with such contempt. And worst of all I really do love him- he’s my best friend and when we have time just the 3 of us it’s wonderful. I know he can never go NC with in-laws as without him they’d be destitute, but I’m heartbroken about the situation.

WWYD?

OP posts:
SpryCat · 09/12/2024 18:45

Your mil is not the problem it’s your DH who is the problem, she is believes his web of lies, what if he for instance started to tell mil you were hurting your child? Whenever your child had an accident he took pics and sent it to her and Ss got involved and mil showed them the texts as proof, his family could end up bringing your child up because he had made up you were a danger to child/ children. This could get serious so you need to change the locks when he is at work and leave bin bags of his outside, then text him and say you dumping him! He is a fantasist

Peopleinmyphone · 09/12/2024 18:51

If he loves you his instinct should be to protect you and defend you. I'm so sorry.

WendyA22 · 09/12/2024 19:08

Helpinghand1234 · 09/12/2024 12:09

Honest opinions please?

I (40f) am married to DH (41m) I’ve always had a tricky but civil relationship with in-laws. They’re overbearing and emeshed (farming family so everyone but them is an outsider)

Things got trickier when we married, then much much trickier when I had DS 15months ago. I’ve basically felt like a surrogate. MIL complains DS is a mummy’s boy, I shouldn’t have breast fed as no one else could feed him, DS doesn’t want to know her when I’m there, she’s not good enough when I’m around etc. If I complain to DH he says I’m stirring up trouble, imagining it or that’s just how she is. He works long hours keeping their farm afloat and has very little time at home in the evenings. When he does come home, at some point mil or fil will phone to see what DH had for dinner etc and ask how DS is. All of his money goes on keeping the farm afloat and my wages pay all our bills (I owned the home mortgage free before we married) When I complained to DH they were intruding on the little family time we had in the evenings the calls became less but constant messages to his phone, but I thought we had created some kind of boundary.

Im now 15 weeks pregnant with DC2. MIL and SIL had a very cold reaction when we told them, and it’s been niggling at me. DH has a way of making me feel like I’m imagining things, but this time I just
couldn’t convince myself that I was imagining it.

I know I’m totally in the wrong here and accept that fully, but this morning around 5am I couldn’t sleep and things were just going around and around my head. DH hadn’t put his phone to charge on his bedside table and it was on the middle of the bed. I unlocked it and started reading messages between him and MIL. I now know why she dislikes me so much. DH has called me lazy, told her there no dinner ready for him when he gets home, he’s had to do all the laundry as Id been lazy all day, I’ve had takeaway but there’s nothing for him, I’m angry and unpleasant/or I’m in a reasonable mood that night, he’s had to clean up my mess as the house was a tip, that I took my son without a coat and hat in the cold weather until he stopped me. He’s told her DS is saying Gran a lot which I’m not pleased about (DS says 3 words and gran isn’t even one of them). Every single thing is a lie.
In all the time we’ve been married I can count on one hand the times he’s come home with no meal ready, and that will be because I’ve just arrived home myself or I’m ill etc. I do all of the laundry (he wouldn’t know how to turn washing machine on) do all the housework (I doubt he knows where the hoover is) and have never taken DS out without either a sunhat or cold weather hat. He says he’s had too cook dinner, put DS to bed and is now cleaning my mess as I’m in bed. (I go to bed the same time as DS as he sleeps for around 3 hours and it’s the longest stretch of sleep I get- he’s then awake every hour/two hours to feed). MIL’s responses are “isn’t she lazy, she must have been in bed all day, she needs a good shake, don’t worry DS will grow soon so you won’t have to stay etc.” When he told her my DM was here, he called her “the old woman” and she responded “is she there to brag about how much money she has?” (My parents are fairly wealthy but not in an ostentatious way- they own property but drive a 15 year old car) She has also repeatedly told DH I’m angry and awful to be around as they’re not good enough for me. Everything he’s told her is a lie, but it’s like he wants to play little boy victim to his mother.

What on earth do I do? I confronted DH this morning- his response was he needed to vent somewhere, which is fair enough, but he wasn’t venting, he was lying and speaking about me in a very hostile and unpleasant way and actively lying. We argued recently as he took DS to mil with no car seat (10 minute journey) and they both had a moan about how I was still stomping my feet about it and being my usual unpleasant self.

What’s most confusing is to my face he’s lovely, we have the odd argument here and there but overall I thought we were happy, he constantly tells me how much he loves me, how happy he is etc but all the while messaging his mother how awful I am. We had a lovely day yesterday buying a Xmas tree and decorating etc and now I feel like my family is destroyed.

Ive spoken to my best friend and DB this morning- they both advised time to cool off before speaking to him to find out why he’s done this. I already know what he’ll say- he can’t get away from her etc, and really it doesn’t matter- how can I ever trust him again? This is the person who is supposed to be my biggest cheerleader but is actively assassinating my character to his mother. I suppose I want some reassurance I’m not overreacting? Is it enough to call it quits? I don’t want DS and DC2 to come from a broken home and I feel so ashamed and embarrassed to be in this situation- all the signs were there that they have an unhealthy relationship but I honestly never thought he would speak about me with such contempt. And worst of all I really do love him- he’s my best friend and when we have time just the 3 of us it’s wonderful. I know he can never go NC with in-laws as without him they’d be destitute, but I’m heartbroken about the situation.

WWYD?

The children and you will be better off without him. You have your home. Send him back to his mother as it sounds like he's not ready to leave her anyway.

WendyA22 · 09/12/2024 19:11

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 09/12/2024 12:25

I would really struggle to stay with him in those circumstances.

Can you go and stay with your family for a while?

He needs to understand that this is potentially relationship ending stuff. If he wants to save your marriage he's got a lot of work to do, starting with telling his mother that he lied about everything.

I can't see him doing any of that as he sounds a very weak man.

Pinkpanther70 · 09/12/2024 19:13

Helpinghand1234 · 09/12/2024 12:09

Honest opinions please?

I (40f) am married to DH (41m) I’ve always had a tricky but civil relationship with in-laws. They’re overbearing and emeshed (farming family so everyone but them is an outsider)

Things got trickier when we married, then much much trickier when I had DS 15months ago. I’ve basically felt like a surrogate. MIL complains DS is a mummy’s boy, I shouldn’t have breast fed as no one else could feed him, DS doesn’t want to know her when I’m there, she’s not good enough when I’m around etc. If I complain to DH he says I’m stirring up trouble, imagining it or that’s just how she is. He works long hours keeping their farm afloat and has very little time at home in the evenings. When he does come home, at some point mil or fil will phone to see what DH had for dinner etc and ask how DS is. All of his money goes on keeping the farm afloat and my wages pay all our bills (I owned the home mortgage free before we married) When I complained to DH they were intruding on the little family time we had in the evenings the calls became less but constant messages to his phone, but I thought we had created some kind of boundary.

Im now 15 weeks pregnant with DC2. MIL and SIL had a very cold reaction when we told them, and it’s been niggling at me. DH has a way of making me feel like I’m imagining things, but this time I just
couldn’t convince myself that I was imagining it.

I know I’m totally in the wrong here and accept that fully, but this morning around 5am I couldn’t sleep and things were just going around and around my head. DH hadn’t put his phone to charge on his bedside table and it was on the middle of the bed. I unlocked it and started reading messages between him and MIL. I now know why she dislikes me so much. DH has called me lazy, told her there no dinner ready for him when he gets home, he’s had to do all the laundry as Id been lazy all day, I’ve had takeaway but there’s nothing for him, I’m angry and unpleasant/or I’m in a reasonable mood that night, he’s had to clean up my mess as the house was a tip, that I took my son without a coat and hat in the cold weather until he stopped me. He’s told her DS is saying Gran a lot which I’m not pleased about (DS says 3 words and gran isn’t even one of them). Every single thing is a lie.
In all the time we’ve been married I can count on one hand the times he’s come home with no meal ready, and that will be because I’ve just arrived home myself or I’m ill etc. I do all of the laundry (he wouldn’t know how to turn washing machine on) do all the housework (I doubt he knows where the hoover is) and have never taken DS out without either a sunhat or cold weather hat. He says he’s had too cook dinner, put DS to bed and is now cleaning my mess as I’m in bed. (I go to bed the same time as DS as he sleeps for around 3 hours and it’s the longest stretch of sleep I get- he’s then awake every hour/two hours to feed). MIL’s responses are “isn’t she lazy, she must have been in bed all day, she needs a good shake, don’t worry DS will grow soon so you won’t have to stay etc.” When he told her my DM was here, he called her “the old woman” and she responded “is she there to brag about how much money she has?” (My parents are fairly wealthy but not in an ostentatious way- they own property but drive a 15 year old car) She has also repeatedly told DH I’m angry and awful to be around as they’re not good enough for me. Everything he’s told her is a lie, but it’s like he wants to play little boy victim to his mother.

What on earth do I do? I confronted DH this morning- his response was he needed to vent somewhere, which is fair enough, but he wasn’t venting, he was lying and speaking about me in a very hostile and unpleasant way and actively lying. We argued recently as he took DS to mil with no car seat (10 minute journey) and they both had a moan about how I was still stomping my feet about it and being my usual unpleasant self.

What’s most confusing is to my face he’s lovely, we have the odd argument here and there but overall I thought we were happy, he constantly tells me how much he loves me, how happy he is etc but all the while messaging his mother how awful I am. We had a lovely day yesterday buying a Xmas tree and decorating etc and now I feel like my family is destroyed.

Ive spoken to my best friend and DB this morning- they both advised time to cool off before speaking to him to find out why he’s done this. I already know what he’ll say- he can’t get away from her etc, and really it doesn’t matter- how can I ever trust him again? This is the person who is supposed to be my biggest cheerleader but is actively assassinating my character to his mother. I suppose I want some reassurance I’m not overreacting? Is it enough to call it quits? I don’t want DS and DC2 to come from a broken home and I feel so ashamed and embarrassed to be in this situation- all the signs were there that they have an unhealthy relationship but I honestly never thought he would speak about me with such contempt. And worst of all I really do love him- he’s my best friend and when we have time just the 3 of us it’s wonderful. I know he can never go NC with in-laws as without him they’d be destitute, but I’m heartbroken about the situation.

WWYD?

I would go there with your husband, and then say infront of your in-laws that there is something we need to discuss isn't there husband? ... then make him tell the truth...

Saschka · 09/12/2024 19:22

OP, when your children are old enough he will try to poison them against you too. “Mummy says you aren’t allowed to do this”, “I was going to take us all to Disneyland but mummy said no”, “Mummy said your picture was horrible, but don’t cry because Daddy loves it”.

Get out of there as soon as you can.

WhatYouPutOutComesBack · 09/12/2024 19:23

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Thelittlehouseonthehill · 09/12/2024 19:23

You frequently post about all your issues with him and his family but I don’t think you want advice just posting to get things off your chest.
You are always going to get the same answers, everyone can see he’s abusive so there’s nothing more anyone can say because you obviously can’t find it in yourself to get out of this sorry mess.
Perhaps some therapy will help you to say enough is enough and leave.

Lairymary · 09/12/2024 19:31

Ironic that she calls your son a Mummy's boy.......

JollyZebra · 09/12/2024 19:46

He is a mother's boy who is feeding her lies to keep her happy. He needs to see a psychologist. What weird behaviour. Take screenshots of the messages to his mother. Keep records of how you are supporting your family financially while he is keeping his parents afloat. You don't want him to have a financial claim on you of your house if you divorce.
I'd give him an ultimatum - he tells them, in person, in front of you, that he's been lying about you and that it stops now. They do not see the grandchildren without you being present. If he doesn't agree or keep to it, I'd send him back to them permanently. You go not want to bring your children up in a family like that.

CatMummyOf3 · 09/12/2024 19:54

WWID?

  • Seek legal advice immediately, and start proceedings to take him for every penny you can.
  • Kick him out of your home as soon as possible, following the legal advice given.
  • Apply for sole custody of your DS and unborn child.
  • Kick him in the balls. Hard. Repeatedly.

You have no reason to feel ashamed, he's a total arsehole.

UltraHorse · 09/12/2024 20:16

Your not going to be happy with a man so attached to his mother he shouldn't be telling her things about you You don't owe him anything you even own the house id definitely let him go

Confusedmeanderings · 09/12/2024 20:36

Your DH will want to brush this under the carpet. I think you need to make it very clear that this is marriage ending stuff. Go through each message with him and point out the lies.

Oodydoody · 09/12/2024 20:47

I would be gathering essentials and be gone.
Email those messages to yourself so he can't get them.
You are the victim of abuse and lies by him and his family reacting to his lies.

I would be gone and I wouldn't be telling him.
Inform the local police you are fleeing in case he calls them.
He's not your friend.
He's scum.

MyPithyPoster · 09/12/2024 21:08

What do your parents make of this situation?
Have you told them?
Would you discuss it with them?
I think they would be absolutely devastated to think you were living like that and they would come and pick you up and take you home immediately if they knew

AngryBookworm · 09/12/2024 21:11

Glad you realise you need to end it. Your kids will be better off by far being raised by a single mum who loves them and is happy, not trapped in an awful relationship. And you never know - getting rid of him leaves space for someone new. There's nothing worse than being lonely in a relationship and feeling trapped. Also - the silver lining of him having contributed sweet FA is that you won't miss his contribution. Get yourself a good solicitor though to protect the assets that you have built up through your hard work alone. Wishing you strength OP.

Thedandyanddude · 09/12/2024 22:21

If he's the best of your friends then bloody hell you've got no hope. Ditch the mummy's boy loser. Children with separate parents aren't from a broken home. Much better to have it that way than a father who despises their mother.

ABG0 · 09/12/2024 22:59

OP there is something very seriously wrong here - you know that. Outwardly you felt your relationship was sound but your other half is clearly very conflicted between how he behaves with you, his relationship with his mother, and, whatever he genuinely feels himself. It's easy to say walk away and be very absolute about not forgiving. I would say two things - this is your life, none of this is going to be easy to navigate. 2. We are all flawed - l do wonder what made him feel he needs to put you down to his mother? You have a difficult time ahead, try to hold on to your compassion. I wish you well.

Mummyto7lovelife · 10/12/2024 01:41

So you provided him a home and he lies about you to gain his mother's approval?! You are married? You need to get out before lies turn into bigger lies, and they ruin you emotionally or make accusations up on your parenting, his mother is already crossing multiple boundaries. He is putting your family at risk, and sanity and relationship. I'd tell him to leave his mother and father and farm business, and start afresh with you, away from his mum and dad and business. Or you will go with the children.
Also you are lazy but he has chosen to get you pregnant again?! Goodness me awful man I couldn't trust him with the lies.

BusyMum47 · 10/12/2024 07:09

@Helpinghand1234

There's no coming back from that - zero trust left. End of. Get out while you can.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 10/12/2024 07:21

@Helpinghand1234 The sooner you leave him the less likely it is that you will lose your house in the process.

Botanybaby · 10/12/2024 07:22

You need to leave his ass he sounds vile

BuildbyNumbere · 10/12/2024 07:25

You own your home mortgage free and pay all the bills anyway … send him back to his mother!! What an arsehole.

BuildbyNumbere · 10/12/2024 07:26

Oodydoody · 09/12/2024 20:47

I would be gathering essentials and be gone.
Email those messages to yourself so he can't get them.
You are the victim of abuse and lies by him and his family reacting to his lies.

I would be gone and I wouldn't be telling him.
Inform the local police you are fleeing in case he calls them.
He's not your friend.
He's scum.

It’s HER house … he can go.

Strictlymad · 10/12/2024 07:30

A baby in the car 10 mins with no seat! And they wonder why you’re annoyed! I’d be incandescent!