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Husband insulting me to MIL

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Helpinghand1234 · 09/12/2024 12:09

Honest opinions please?

I (40f) am married to DH (41m) I’ve always had a tricky but civil relationship with in-laws. They’re overbearing and emeshed (farming family so everyone but them is an outsider)

Things got trickier when we married, then much much trickier when I had DS 15months ago. I’ve basically felt like a surrogate. MIL complains DS is a mummy’s boy, I shouldn’t have breast fed as no one else could feed him, DS doesn’t want to know her when I’m there, she’s not good enough when I’m around etc. If I complain to DH he says I’m stirring up trouble, imagining it or that’s just how she is. He works long hours keeping their farm afloat and has very little time at home in the evenings. When he does come home, at some point mil or fil will phone to see what DH had for dinner etc and ask how DS is. All of his money goes on keeping the farm afloat and my wages pay all our bills (I owned the home mortgage free before we married) When I complained to DH they were intruding on the little family time we had in the evenings the calls became less but constant messages to his phone, but I thought we had created some kind of boundary.

Im now 15 weeks pregnant with DC2. MIL and SIL had a very cold reaction when we told them, and it’s been niggling at me. DH has a way of making me feel like I’m imagining things, but this time I just
couldn’t convince myself that I was imagining it.

I know I’m totally in the wrong here and accept that fully, but this morning around 5am I couldn’t sleep and things were just going around and around my head. DH hadn’t put his phone to charge on his bedside table and it was on the middle of the bed. I unlocked it and started reading messages between him and MIL. I now know why she dislikes me so much. DH has called me lazy, told her there no dinner ready for him when he gets home, he’s had to do all the laundry as Id been lazy all day, I’ve had takeaway but there’s nothing for him, I’m angry and unpleasant/or I’m in a reasonable mood that night, he’s had to clean up my mess as the house was a tip, that I took my son without a coat and hat in the cold weather until he stopped me. He’s told her DS is saying Gran a lot which I’m not pleased about (DS says 3 words and gran isn’t even one of them). Every single thing is a lie.
In all the time we’ve been married I can count on one hand the times he’s come home with no meal ready, and that will be because I’ve just arrived home myself or I’m ill etc. I do all of the laundry (he wouldn’t know how to turn washing machine on) do all the housework (I doubt he knows where the hoover is) and have never taken DS out without either a sunhat or cold weather hat. He says he’s had too cook dinner, put DS to bed and is now cleaning my mess as I’m in bed. (I go to bed the same time as DS as he sleeps for around 3 hours and it’s the longest stretch of sleep I get- he’s then awake every hour/two hours to feed). MIL’s responses are “isn’t she lazy, she must have been in bed all day, she needs a good shake, don’t worry DS will grow soon so you won’t have to stay etc.” When he told her my DM was here, he called her “the old woman” and she responded “is she there to brag about how much money she has?” (My parents are fairly wealthy but not in an ostentatious way- they own property but drive a 15 year old car) She has also repeatedly told DH I’m angry and awful to be around as they’re not good enough for me. Everything he’s told her is a lie, but it’s like he wants to play little boy victim to his mother.

What on earth do I do? I confronted DH this morning- his response was he needed to vent somewhere, which is fair enough, but he wasn’t venting, he was lying and speaking about me in a very hostile and unpleasant way and actively lying. We argued recently as he took DS to mil with no car seat (10 minute journey) and they both had a moan about how I was still stomping my feet about it and being my usual unpleasant self.

What’s most confusing is to my face he’s lovely, we have the odd argument here and there but overall I thought we were happy, he constantly tells me how much he loves me, how happy he is etc but all the while messaging his mother how awful I am. We had a lovely day yesterday buying a Xmas tree and decorating etc and now I feel like my family is destroyed.

Ive spoken to my best friend and DB this morning- they both advised time to cool off before speaking to him to find out why he’s done this. I already know what he’ll say- he can’t get away from her etc, and really it doesn’t matter- how can I ever trust him again? This is the person who is supposed to be my biggest cheerleader but is actively assassinating my character to his mother. I suppose I want some reassurance I’m not overreacting? Is it enough to call it quits? I don’t want DS and DC2 to come from a broken home and I feel so ashamed and embarrassed to be in this situation- all the signs were there that they have an unhealthy relationship but I honestly never thought he would speak about me with such contempt. And worst of all I really do love him- he’s my best friend and when we have time just the 3 of us it’s wonderful. I know he can never go NC with in-laws as without him they’d be destitute, but I’m heartbroken about the situation.

WWYD?

OP posts:
OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 11/12/2024 10:45

I hope you protected your house when you married him, I suspect not.

He will want 50% of it when you divorce, and I guess he has nothing so you will not get a penny in the divorce, as he will say anything and everything actually belongs to the ' family '

and i can see similar happening when you apply for CMS as he will claim he barely gets paid as the farm is not doing well.

liamharha · 11/12/2024 13:01

This is the start of a true crime documentary. Really think how much he's manipulating and recieving people .

Teddybear23 · 11/12/2024 18:05

Definitely marriage counselling at the least for him to explain/understand why he’s lying to his mum. After that he’d have to come clean to his mum IN FRONT OF YOU that he’d been lying. If this doesn’t work I’m sorry but if I were you I’d leave him (or kick him out back to mummy). It’s appalling behaviour.

yellowlabrador · 11/12/2024 18:39

The fact that he lies so easily to his own family is not venting. It is the act of someone who is very damaged and mentally unwell. Be honest, do you honestly think you can brush this under the carpet. You are going to damage your own mental health trying to live with this person. Don't walk - run! Be prepared that he will probably try and drive a wedge between you and your kids in the future. He is a seriously twisted person.

PullTheBricksDown · 11/12/2024 18:49

I am doubtful that his mum doesn't suspect any of this is lies, even. It doesn't really probably matter to her. It's the story she wants to hear and that binds them together. So I don't think any of the 'make him tell her the truth' tactics will work. The OP is the villain in this setup and nothing that challenges that will be believed or accepted.

I'm so sorry OP. Leave them behind and make a life in which you have people on your side, who will love and champion you and protect you - your kids can do this as they grow, but there may be others too. It won't be this hideous crew though.

morethanspice · 11/12/2024 19:11

I haven’t had time to read the whole thread but I too was married to a farmers son and his family were vile and he did not have my back. Your husband does not deserve you.

Xcxlxn · 11/12/2024 19:27

Oh absolutely not, I’m sorry OP but run and run fast. His living in your house, rent and bill free all his money is going back to mummy and the family farm, he works long hours and he is making up toxic lies about you. What is he actually bringing to this relationship or doing for you? The lies are just awful and there are so many, I don’t know how you ever come back from that.
Bringing your children up with an ex husband is a much better scenario than bringing them up in the household with this toxic poor excuse of a man. Also I’d be very reluctant to let him take the children anywhere if he feels it’s ok to drive them without a car seat. That is horrendous I report my OH to the police if he dared do that, that’s so dangerous. He just sounds like he doesn’t care about anyone but himself and his mum!

saffronspices · 11/12/2024 21:50

15 years post separation & mine has carried on lying through his teeth to his mummy & sister & my children are expected to dance round him & keep their mouths shut - no way - bye dad. Still playing the victim at 62 years old.

lottielittle · 12/12/2024 07:41

I’ve never said this before but LTB. And I clicked YABU because you said you don’t want your children to come from a ‘broken home’ what an awful thing to say. Plenty of children come from 1 parent families and their homes are certainly not broken! I think you need to worry more about your DC growing up with them thinking it’s ok that their dad and their grandparents slag off their mum. I think that would damage a child more than mum & dad living apart…..

Listopad · 12/12/2024 08:39

I was married to a farmer with a toxic overbearing family. It does not get better, sorry you are going through this.

Helpinghand1234 · 12/12/2024 09:26

Thank you to everyone who has posted, I’ve asked him to spend the last three nights away from here, it’s just too upsetting. He’s been coming over in the evenings to see DS and Ive left them to it and gone into another room and then he leaves when it’s DS bedtime. I assume he’s sleeping at his parents.

We’ve spoken (argued really) twice about it. He’s adamant he was just venting, he’s struggled with me being so distant and quiet since DS was born. I explained that I try to talk about an issue with him and he shuts me down with “Why are you looking for a fight, do you know what kind of day I’ve had etc” so that’s when I shut down.
I asked to see his phone as I wanted to know how long they’d been speaking about me like this. He’s deleted the entire message thread as well as with his sister, best friend and some other people. I dread to think what was being said that caused him to delete the messages, my mind is in overdrive. He has no real explanation for this. I feel this is a huge red flag?
My DB thinks he’s just doing it for mil’s approval and thinks I should confront them both together. I’m not sure I have the strength (pathetic I know) My best friend thinks we need to keep communicating and have some cooling off time before I do anything drastic. I haven’t spoken to my DM, we have a complicated relationship at best, although I think she would be supportive I feel she may escalate the situation which won’t help anyone.
I can’t see a way forward, even now I’ve cooled down and am trying to be reasonable, I can’t see how we can ever have any kind of trust, and I don’t think I’m overreacting.

OP posts:
ThisZanyPinkSquid · 12/12/2024 09:34

You are definitely not overreacting! Venting is fine but they were bare faced lies!!

Turn it back on him and ask when x, y & z happened for him to vent to everyone like that?? Then say how would you feel if I run to DM or best friend lying about you? Saying x, y & z.

Personally it sounds like he’s gaslighting you at the moment 🤷🏼‍♀️

PullTheBricksDown · 12/12/2024 09:36

See a solicitor ASAP. Before you do anything else, arm yourself with the information about how to protect your house and income from this man and his family.

Oodydoody · 12/12/2024 09:37

He has irrevocably broken your trust by telling bare faced lies to multiple people about you.
There is no way forward from that.
I'm so sorry.

AllTangledUpInTinselAndTiaras · 12/12/2024 09:37

What your brother doesn't seem to understand is that confronting them will make absolutely no difference. They're not suddenly going to become reasonable, adjusted people.

Porcuporpoise · 12/12/2024 09:38

You're not overreacting @Helpinghand1234 🙁On Mumsnet I often roll my eyes when people to LTB over every minor disagreement but what your husband did to you - to me that would be really unforgivable.

catlover123456789 · 12/12/2024 09:43

I was going to ask about other threads, not just his mum. It's a huge red flag that he has deleted those threads. I think you can safely assume that there were things in those threads that he didn't want you to see. If it was me, I think I would have to end the relationship, and I don't say that lightly.

CraftyYankee · 12/12/2024 09:43

So he wasn't just slagging you off to his mother who he clearly has an enmeshed relationship with, but also to other people so the truth wouldn't get back to her? That's all kinds of messed up. I couldn't see a way back from that.

See a solicitor about protecting your assets, I hope you don't wind up supporting him 🤬

BodyKeepingScore · 12/12/2024 09:45

Teddybear23 · 11/12/2024 18:05

Definitely marriage counselling at the least for him to explain/understand why he’s lying to his mum. After that he’d have to come clean to his mum IN FRONT OF YOU that he’d been lying. If this doesn’t work I’m sorry but if I were you I’d leave him (or kick him out back to mummy). It’s appalling behaviour.

What would counselling achieve here? He’s lied, consistently, therapy isn’t a magic bullet that will suddenly make him truthful in the therapy room.

I wouldn’t waste money or time going to therapy with someone who is as deceitful as her husband has been.

DecafDodger · 12/12/2024 09:49

You can vent about something that actually happened, not something you have made up!

thepariscrimefiles · 12/12/2024 09:53

It doesn't sound as though there was even a hint of an apology from your DH. As usual, he's put it all back on you for being 'distant' which apparently gives him carte blanche to make up horrible lies about you to his equally horrible mother.

As other posters have said, there is no coming back from this and you need to consult a solicitor as soon as possible about divorcing him and proctecting your assets.

Don't confront him and his mother as suggested by your brother. It will serve no purpose and they will put up a united front against you. Their family dynamic is so fucked up that it would be impossible to have a conversation which ends in them taking any responsibility for what they have said and done to you.

AllTangledUpInTinselAndTiaras · 12/12/2024 09:57

AllTangledUpInTinselAndTiaras · 12/12/2024 09:37

What your brother doesn't seem to understand is that confronting them will make absolutely no difference. They're not suddenly going to become reasonable, adjusted people.

Really pisses me off when the autocorrect/predictive text/whatever it is, changes what I write!!

I specifically wrote well-adjusted, because that's specifically what I wanted to say! 😡😡

Anyway. Counselling is pointless. Really, stop wasting your time and effort. The only thing you can change is you and what you do in this situation, to change things for yourself and your children.

AbbieLexie · 12/12/2024 09:58

The trust is gone and speaking from experience won't be found again. You are not a priority - just fodder to be used to gain brownie points with others he demonstrates are more important.
Take the advice others have given and get your ducks in a row. Imperative you seek legal advice asap - this is about protecting your children's future and yours.

Imbusytodaysorry · 12/12/2024 09:58

Helpinghand1234 · 12/12/2024 09:26

Thank you to everyone who has posted, I’ve asked him to spend the last three nights away from here, it’s just too upsetting. He’s been coming over in the evenings to see DS and Ive left them to it and gone into another room and then he leaves when it’s DS bedtime. I assume he’s sleeping at his parents.

We’ve spoken (argued really) twice about it. He’s adamant he was just venting, he’s struggled with me being so distant and quiet since DS was born. I explained that I try to talk about an issue with him and he shuts me down with “Why are you looking for a fight, do you know what kind of day I’ve had etc” so that’s when I shut down.
I asked to see his phone as I wanted to know how long they’d been speaking about me like this. He’s deleted the entire message thread as well as with his sister, best friend and some other people. I dread to think what was being said that caused him to delete the messages, my mind is in overdrive. He has no real explanation for this. I feel this is a huge red flag?
My DB thinks he’s just doing it for mil’s approval and thinks I should confront them both together. I’m not sure I have the strength (pathetic I know) My best friend thinks we need to keep communicating and have some cooling off time before I do anything drastic. I haven’t spoken to my DM, we have a complicated relationship at best, although I think she would be supportive I feel she may escalate the situation which won’t help anyone.
I can’t see a way forward, even now I’ve cooled down and am trying to be reasonable, I can’t see how we can ever have any kind of trust, and I don’t think I’m overreacting.

Honestly i think you are being given poor advice.

Why do people around you want you to put up with being spoken about and disrespected to the person you sleep with . ????

He gaslights you i see from your update .
This man doesn’t have your back. .

He is horrible.

As I said previously you are sleeping with the enemy . Up to you i f you want to keep doing it but I wouldn’t .

You need to meet someone that has respect and you are a team .

His priority are his family not the family he had made . When boys become men that isn’t the case .

Your with a looser Op

UltraHorse · 12/12/2024 10:00

You can get through the way your man won't discuss things saying he's had a bad day at work he's not thinking about you you could meet someone who's ok with discussing things and cares how you feel

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