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To feel hurt by MIL's condescending comments

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MumofMiniDivas · 08/12/2024 13:32

My husband comes from a much wealthier background than I do. His family takes five holidays a year, went to private schools, and bought each kid a large London property when they turned 25. I went to grammar school, had 1–2 holidays a year, and while my parents helped with a deposit, they didn’t buy me a house outright (and yes I am aware that this is actually quite a privileged position, I am by no means poor but just explaining the contrast).

DH works for the family business, which his mum technically owns but doesn’t really run anymore—she’s basically retired, travels a lot, and leaves it to DH and his siblings. His sisters help out part-time when it suits them (since they’re looking after young kids), but DH and his brother run it full-time.

He’s super careful about what he says to his mum—she’s “always right,” and he avoids any conflict with her. Apparently, that’s just how it’s always been. Part of me thinks it’s also because they’re all a bit financially dependent on her. If she ever cut them out of the will or the business, their lifestyle would take a big hit.

I work part-time and take care of our daughters, who are 4 and 1, and I’m pregnant with our son. Even if I worked full-time, what I’d earn wouldn’t compare to what DH makes or receives from his family. He covers all the main expenses, and my salary is just for personal things like clothes, dinners with friends, or trips to the hairdresser. At home, DH is lovely: he’s hands-on with the kids, helps with chores, and is super thoughtful when it’s just us.

The issue is his mum. She makes comments that aren’t directly rude but feel like digs. For example, she buys our daughters designer clothes and says things like, “Girls should always dress in expensive clothes—it sets the tone for their self-worth and taste,” while I’m standing there in my Zara jumper.

At a family gathering, when people joked about my daughter becoming a vet because she loves animals, MIL said, “That’s such a messy job. Do women even enjoy working? It’s just something you do for money. She’ll have everything she needs—no need to work, especially not a messy job.”

She can also be condescending. When she was talking about her travel plans, she mentioned going to a fancy restaurant with my SIL and added, “I suppose you’ve never been there?” When I said I had, she replied, “Oh, who took you there?”

DH doesn’t really address it, saying it’s just how she is, and bringing it up would cause a big falling out. He tells me to rise above it and not take it personally, but honestly, it’s hard not to when the comments feel so pointed.

OP posts:
2024onwardsandup · 08/12/2024 13:36

You won’t change her and it sounds like she’s baiting you.

read up on grey rock

Workingthroughit · 08/12/2024 13:38

It sounds like a really sexist family set up where the men graft and the women look pretty and ‘dabble’ in work if they feel like it. Would give me the ick personally but you won’t change it.

Pumpkincozynights · 08/12/2024 13:41

She is letting you know that you married above your station.
You do benefit from her wealth so it’s up to you how you react. Your dh has made it clear he isn’t prepared to bite the hand that feeds.
I would be very careful about the information I share with her and careful about how much influence she has over your DCs.
Could you go out when she visits as you have an emergency to attend?

HardlyLikely · 08/12/2024 13:42

Just say ‘Oh, don’t be silly, Muriel. Just because your ideas about women date ftom the anti-women’s suffrage movement doesn’t mean the rest of us need to play along!’ And tell your DH that he may be in fear of his mother because she owns him financially , but you didn’t sign up to that.

mlc0 · 08/12/2024 13:42

Zara is expensive to me. God knows what she'd say about my vinted & charity shop clothes 🤣

Lifestooshort71 · 08/12/2024 13:42

Accept the whole package or none of it unfortunately. Would he get a similar job with the same benefits elsewhere? If not, don't rock the boat.

heldinadream · 08/12/2024 13:42

Yes she's a snob and full of internalised misogyny.
And rising above it and grey rocking is definitely the best way to go.
Get the measure of her and then ignore it.
And know your own worth and that it has nothing to do with what you wear, where you've been, or any other of her nonsense.

LimeYellow · 08/12/2024 13:43

I would find these comments irritating but I don't think you'll be able to change her as it sounds like this attitude is ingrained. Just nod and smile OP.

BlastedPimples · 08/12/2024 13:44

You'll have to learn to ignore her.

You'll look dignified.

Don't engage.

She will look petty, baiting and very old fashioned.

Let her.

But make sure your children are educated with far better values than your mils.

BlastedPimples · 08/12/2024 13:44

Don't nod and smile though. You're not an idiot.

Outlookmainlyfair · 08/12/2024 13:44

As usual the first comment nailed it!

Newnameshoos · 08/12/2024 13:44

My in-laws are in a similar situation, and I'm from a family which doesn't have much money. Everything I've got, I worked hard for. As did my grandfather-in-law who built a business from scratch after WW2.
My mil makes similar disparaging comments about me needing to work, not doing my food shop in marks & spencer etc etc.
Over the years I've learned to ignore her, avoid being in a room alone with her, and my other half has thankfully got a different outlook and realises that I work because I like my job and worked hard to qualify etc etc.
I'd develop a similar thick skin and deaf ears if you can do. The important relationship is the one between you and your partner. If that's strong, you can stand firm against her. I'd also make sure you can stand on your own financially and not dependent on your mil.

pikkumyy77 · 08/12/2024 13:45

First post nails it. Your dh and you need to be careful. Your MIL can and will punish both if you by withdrawing money or status (from DH). He works for her and has zero power in the relationship. And she gets gratification and power from controlling her sons and their families. As she gets older, physically weaker, or bored socially she will take it out on you all and try to “split” the brothers and play them off against each other or split the wives snd play SIL off against you.

Jagoda · 08/12/2024 13:45

She’s absolutely ridiculous. Nothing will infuriate her more than if you pretend none of her jibes have landed.

WhatUSeeIsWhatUGet · 08/12/2024 13:46

2024onwardsandup · 08/12/2024 13:36

You won’t change her and it sounds like she’s baiting you.

read up on grey rock

I second the grey rock approach. She sounds awful and your DH should do some counselling having a monster mother like that...

ohyesido · 08/12/2024 13:47

Just ignore it and don’t rise in anyway.

no clever retorts. If you don’t react she will feel foolish and the taunts will lose their appeal

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 08/12/2024 13:47

Avoid her as much as possible.

Onlyonekenobe · 08/12/2024 13:48

Yet more proof that money doesn’t correlate with intelligence or manners.

Each time she says stuff like this, remind yourself she needs to remind you how superior she thinks she is to you in order to feel good about herself. Pity the poor woman, at her age, having to do this sort of stuff.

Ladamesansmerci · 08/12/2024 13:48

She sounds really old school, classist, and full of internalised misogyny.

The irony is that to a lot of people, going to grammar school and shopping at Zara are posh. And most vets come from wealthy backgrounds!

Tbh OP I'd just call her out on it/shut her down. It sounds like no one else bothers. You don't need to do it in a nasty way. When she comments on your clothes, just say something reasonably neutral like 'I think really expensive clothes are a waste of money that I'd rather spend on travel or etc. I'm happy with my clothes and the way I look'.

You also don't want your daughter thinking it's okay to live off a trust fund and generational wealth! Make sure she knows there's nothing wrong with work, messy jobs, and that actually living off of generational wealthy is trashy AF! Bet my life savings this woman is someone to moan about 'benefit scroungers' but she's happy for rich people to inherit things and never have to pay their way.

Call it out for the sake of your daughter. You want her to grow up hard working, grateful, and humble. Not spoiled and entitled, or someone who looks down on others.

RickiRaccoon · 08/12/2024 13:51

I agree you have to put up with her if you want your DH to retain his current benefit system. You can try coping techniques like just avoiding her as much as possible through being 'busy' (skipping every second visit and excusing yourself to tend to children when you do visit). Also, she is just a bit of an Emily Gilmore type snob -- repeat her comments to friends and have a laugh about it so you don't feel so bad.

ohyesido · 08/12/2024 13:52

Oh and Zara is decent high end brand clothing to normal people

Autumn38 · 08/12/2024 13:53

HardlyLikely · 08/12/2024 13:42

Just say ‘Oh, don’t be silly, Muriel. Just because your ideas about women date ftom the anti-women’s suffrage movement doesn’t mean the rest of us need to play along!’ And tell your DH that he may be in fear of his mother because she owns him financially , but you didn’t sign up to that.

OP does seem to have signed up to being with a man who pays for a lifestyle she couldn’t otherwise have. Working part time for pocket money is much nicer than working full time because you have to.

Would you be happy with a serious downgrade of lifestyle OP? If the answer is a genuine yes, then say what you like to MIL. If you don’t want to risk DH being cut out then you might have to follow his lead and bite your tongue.

Wingedharpy · 08/12/2024 13:55

She sounds like a woman with a very narrow view on life.
More to be pittied than blamed would be my thoughts.

neverhadnooneever · 08/12/2024 13:55

You are living in a house bought by your MIL. Your husband earns a huge salary working for your MIL. You spend your own wages on clothes, dinners and hairdressers Flowers

Natty13 · 08/12/2024 13:55

He obviously doesn't think her way is best because he chose a totally different woman to marry. That should be enough for you.

I honestly never found it hard to smile and nod in the face of such comments because I felt so secure in my relationship. Don't rise to it and give her what she wants.

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