Hoping that Greg Wallace is forgiven, rather than cancelled

[Toodaloo1567]

Just a few concerns about this whole GW thing. Caveat: I do not condone behaviour that is illegal.

1. It does kind of look like a whole bunch of privileged TV luvvies are clamouring to denounce someone with really quite humble roots. I grew up in London and am constantly paranoid about how I come across to my mainly middle class colleagues. The thing is, middle class and privileged people operate by a set of unwritten rules. It’s like a full time job in itself trying to emulate their way of interacting, lest you be called out for not being ‘nice’ enough or doing something odd to them, like forgetting to start an email with ‘Hope you are well?’. Only, they won’t let you know to your face that you’ve accidentally been too sharp or direct, or maybe that your joke wasn’t woke enough - no, that stuff just goes straight to HR.
2. The equality act 2010 makes it the employer’s responsibility to prevent sexual harassment in the workplace. Why wasn’t all this lewd stuff dealt with? GW said that no one had made a formal complaint. Again, it makes me wonder whether the middle class luvvies just didn’t want to call things out at the time because it’s ‘beneath’ them to even consider doing something about it.
3. Even though he’s apologised, the public doesn’t think that’s good enough. It’s like only perfect people get to keep their careers. Woe betide you if you said something crass on twitter 10 years ago, or got caught speeding or something.

Of course, lots of you would want to shout me down over this, but you know what? We’re all mums here and many of us have sons. Boys and young men do and say crass things. GW hasn’t raped or systematically abused anyone. It doesn’t make what’s happened right, but I also don’t think it’s right that swarms of pitch-fork waving strangers get to play judge, jury and executioner. I’m a big fan of forgiveness. Am I the only one?

So middle class women arent allowed to be sexually harassed? This is a mental post

I’m a big fan of forgiveness. Am I the only one?

Yes.

We’re all mums here

And?

And no, 'we' i.e. MN posters are not all mums.

And what is 'cancellation' anyway? Define your terms.

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Oh wow be prepared to be flamed OP 😂 🔥

I wouldn't have got too worked up about it until he posted that ridiculous video on Sunday which PROVED his obvious contempt for women who dare to call him out.

Being an odious misogynist isn't illegal but his job is all about image and he's ruined his.

He’s already cancelled op.

Have you actually read some of the things he’s said and done? He’s vile. I’d be MORTIFIED if my son turned out like him.

This post isn't going to last.

Is that you Gregg?

😂

Greggs apology was not an apology .
No sincerity.
He's sorry people are complaining.
Not because of his actions.

🤣 A*

Are you saying WC men can’t help but harass women. It’s how they were brought up? You’re not doing WC men any favours.

I'm working class, gregg using this as an excuse is just bullshit. Its not his working class roots that led him to behave like a sleaze.

Yeah the BBC should have acted sooner (again), but that doesn't excuse gregg or absolve him of responsibility

I’m a big fan of forgiveness. Am I the only one?

There's a spiv somewhere wants to sell you Lambeth Palace

Are you telling me that all working class men are misogynists? What a fucking insult.

No I hope he's cancelled.

I would also hope that if my son sexually harassed multiple women in his job that he would be sacked too so im not sure why youre bringing sons into it .

You can be a fan of forgiveness all you, forgive people for harassing you, you don't get to decide that other people should forgive their harrassers.

Point 1 of your post makes you sound a bit like Gregg’s twin sister. Have your colleagues complained to HR that your jokes aren’t woke enough?

He’s not some poor immature uneducated boy. He’s a 60 year old man who should bloody well know better.

Im not patronising enough to hold working class people to a lower standard than middle class people.

I’m a big fan of forgiveness.
Why would you forgive someone who has only doubled down on their actions?

You’ve over-egged the cake with “very humble roots” in your first paragraph 🤣

I'm working class but I would never confuse sexual harassment with something outside of middle class social norms or a set of 'unwritten rules' as you put it.

It's not acceptable for boys and young men to be 'crass' as you put it and say and do such things.

You may see this as light behaviour but it's the tip of the ice berg when it comes to brazen misogyny. This behaviour is degrading and threatening to women and our acceptance of it will only lead to more sexual violence. Violence against women is at an all time high.

We are also mothers of daughters on MN - I think you need to take a good long look at your values.

No it's not just you.
Sadly there are plenty of people out there who think that sexual harassment and inappropriate behaviour in the workplace is just banter.

As far as I’m aware he hasn’t said sorry for his orginal behaviour, or have I missed some thing?