Biden has pardoned his son because his conviction was a "miscarriage of justice".

[Cantalever]

Is this the total end of standards and even a pretence at integrity in public life? This is a president, who admittedly like all the others, allowed innocent people to be executed in their joke of a justice system. What a hypocrite.

It's built in to the system, the American judiciary isn't sufficiently independent.

For example, there's no way Trump would have got away with the classified documents case if it hadn't landed in front of a Trump-loyalist judge that he appointed, who basically refused to follow the law.

I don't think the US system of democracy is robust enough to survive the hyper-partisan climate that's manifested there.

They are pedophiles if it is true what was on their computers. Sad reality. But with Bidden sniffing kids hair it sounds about right.

Nah, if that was true Trump would have nominated Hunter for Attorney General.

(Also, there's no evidence that those accusations against Hunter are true, and they've even been denied by the computer repair shop guy who handed the laptop over to Trump. If the allegations were true, then they'd still likely be prosecuable at state level, pardon only cover Federal crimes)

I mean, pardoning a family member is something Trump did. He pardoned Jared Kushner's father, then (just today) appointed him as Ambassador to France.

Ok. But sniffing kids hairs......very weird and predatory.

Were any of those instances genuine? I do think that Biden is generally more "touchy feely" than many feel comfortable with, and has been accused of sniffing an adult congresswoman's hair, but weren't all the "child sniffing" ones edited?

He's pardoned him because he doesn't want to leave him at the mercy of the fascist administration to come. I don't blame him.

Wrong, he pardoned him because he wanted to protect himself and the rest of the Biden family from being prosecuted alongside Hunter.

Not edited. I am pretty sure The Washington Times and Sky news are not in the business of editing newsreel. It's all very creepy indeed.

The video they both have is in this link:

https://www.skynews.com.au/world-news/united-states/really-creepy-joe-biden-appears-to-sniff-a-child-during-a-surprise-visit/video/ae5e77b7beb27372c0cf1e1853d60de1

Washington Times describe him as acting creepy, but don't allege a sniffing. Sky News Austalia alleges a sniff but there's no sign one in the actual video.

The other "sniffing children" videos of him all appear to be fakes.

I think the right wing peddle this stuff to deflect from rapist Trump's history with Epstien.

Good, I'm fed up with when they go low we go high.

This is nothing compared to what Trump has done and will do.

Biden has not just pardoned his son for current crimes but also for any future ones that cone to light. I think Trump is brash but the Biden family is worse.

Do you know about how bad it looks pardoning your criminal son while you are president? While at he same time pleading to be decent and better than other politicians. This is why Trump won the elections. Worse and more duplicitous lot in the history of the Democrats. I bet this was discussed and approved behind doors before Biden was forced to resign to the elections race. Biden was holding on just for this pardon. What a U turn on what Biden said to begin with. He should have been gone a long time ago.

Coming on Biden defence because what Trump has done is ridiculous. However, we all know now they were booted out by a big majority. Hopefully you still love democracy as you keep mentioning January the 6th.

That is so bad, I bet Democrats would never do that. Oh wait..

No,he's pardoned him thinking it will protect Hunter Biden and himself,the Big Guy too. Trouble is apparently this pardon removes HB 5th amendment rights so he could find himself as star witness to testify against his bent uncle Jim and also the Big Guy himself ie the worst president in US history. I hope Pam Bondi has the lot of them in orange overalls before next years out.

Michelle Obama "When they go low we go high."

Biden - when they ( Trump and his supporters) go low, we go lower.

One person. That's not 'the other side'.

I'm not angry. You're just wrong 😀

If you believe that the person who shot Ashli Babbit was the only armed person, I suspect you're beyond fact.

https://eu.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2022/06/15/fact-check-were-firearms-other-weapons-capitol-jan-6/7621149001/

(and 'a bit' is two words)

@dottiehens

Do you know about how bad it looks pardoning your criminal son while you are president? While at he same time pleading to be decent and better than other politicians. This is why Trump won the elections. Worse and more duplicitous lot in the history of the Democrats. I bet this was discussed and approved behind doors before Biden was forced to resign to the elections race. Biden was holding on just for this pardon. What a U turn on what Biden said to begin with. He should have been gone a long time ago.

Coming on Biden defence because what Trump has done is ridiculous. However, we all know now they were booted out by a big majority. Hopefully you still love democracy as you keep mentioning January the 6th.

Good attempt at deflection, but you'll get nowhere comparing Biden 'duplicity' to Trump duplicity - but you're obviously the sort who blames Democrats/the Left for everything. ("This is why Trump the elections.") It's quite lazy.

Backdating the pardon to 2014 was skeezy as hell because it means neither Joe nor Hunter can be investigated for the shady money they took from Burisma (Ukraine), the Chinese energy company or that Russian oligarch. Or the dodgy Kazakh business man. Or that shady Romanian businessman.

Good, glad he has done this, Joe Biden has already outlived two of his sons, had he not pardoned him, Trump may have come after him for evermore.

Which Trump has said he would do...

The other "sniffing children" videos of him all appear to be fakes.

Didn’t the Democrats say exactly the same thing about all the videos showing Biden’s cognitive decline?

I'm surprised it's possible to pardon someone for crimes they haven't been charged with. It does suggest HB is guilty of a lot more otherwise the pardon would have been limited to the crimes he's been convicted for.

The sweeping and broad nature of the pardon is eye raising

Exactly, @TheHardestWalk
I'd have to spent ages checking every single presidential pardon, but it hardly feels usual to involve a long and very specific ten year period and instantly raises the question of what else is known

It's also getting a bit tiresome to see Kash Patel dangled as the bogeyman who explains everything. Admittedly he comes across to me as a madman, but like Trump he's still just one man and since some of his more manic actions have already been squashed I see no reason to assume the same wouldn't happen here

Unless there really is plenty that Hunter's guilty of that is, in which case I suppose Democrats feel the need to come up with something

If you are going to argue chalk and cheese at least don’t lie.

Trump pardoned 143 and made 94 commutations.