Page 11 | Biden has pardoned his son because his conviction was a "miscarriage of justice".

Cantalever · 2024-12-02T03:14:27+00:00

Is this the total end of standards and even a pretence at integrity in public life? This is a president, who admittedly like all the others, allowed innocent people to be executed in their joke of a justice system. What a hypocrite.

AdventCarols · 02/12/2024 09:55

Curious to know where those who ‘would do it too’ would draw the line? Extortion? Burglary? Paedophilia? Murder? At what point, if any, would you think your son deserved his prison sentence and should stay there?

Lovemybunnies · 02/12/2024 09:56

He lost one son. I think he wants to protect the other from Trump and whilst I don’t think it was the right thing to do I don’t blame him. I wonder if parental guilt plays a part.

AdventCarols · 02/12/2024 09:57

The pardon only covers the period between 2014-2024.

Doesn’t it cover convictions rather than a period of time?

Butchyrestingface · 02/12/2024 10:03

AdventCarols · 02/12/2024 09:57

The pardon only covers the period between 2014-2024.

Doesn’t it cover convictions rather than a period of time?

Am sure anyone with initiative can find a way round the small print.

In his shoes, I'd be fleeing to Canada.

BellissimoGecko · 02/12/2024 10:30

KillerTomato7 · 02/12/2024 03:49

He probably saw no choice, given that the incoming president has pledged to use the Justice Department to target his political opponents, and to purge the Department of civil servants so that his supporters can take their place.

if it makes you feel better, Trump has also pledged to pardon many of his supporters who physically stormed the Capitol in January 2021, in an attempt to prevent the handover of power. But his first move, of course, will be to end the active investigations into his own conduct during his first presidency.

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This. Crazy.

Instead of banning people with a conviction for standing for President, they are allowed to run then allowed to delete their own crimes. Wtf?

Butchyrestingface · 02/12/2024 10:58

Lovemybunnies · 02/12/2024 09:56

He lost one son. I think he wants to protect the other from Trump and whilst I don’t think it was the right thing to do I don’t blame him. I wonder if parental guilt plays a part.

He also lost his wife and daughter. I can certainly see why he wants to protect the one child left to him from that marriage, even if he is a no-good little rotter.

Don’t agree with what what Biden is doing. Just can’t bring myself to care, since it pales into insignificance compared to what Tangerine Man has done and will do again.

thesilvermoon · 02/12/2024 11:21

Menopausalsourpuss · 02/12/2024 09:24

No of course not, all Democrat voters are highly intelligent moral people, could only have been those dastardly Republican thickies.

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You don't find it thick and/or venal to vote in a man who is a rapist, and an insurrectionist, and would be looking at jail time were he not re-elected now? You don't find it thick and/or venal to vote in a man who was the direct cause of hundreds of thousands of his supporters' unnecessary deaths from Covid?

MAGAts are thick.

Gettingbysomehow · 02/12/2024 11:38

TheTidyBear · 02/12/2024 07:23

So you'd stoop to corruption for your criminal children?

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Hmmmmm, if it stopped him going into a horrendous and violent american prison yes I would, he's my son.
But it wouldn't end there for sure.

noctilucentcloud · 02/12/2024 11:39

I can understand on a personal level why he did it but I think it was wrong and am disappointed he didn't have more integrity. I also think it's crazy that a president can do this! It's so open to abuse and corruption.

wholettheturnipsburn · 02/12/2024 11:58

TheTidyBear · 02/12/2024 05:38

Well I guess on mumnset quite a few people teach their children it's ok to do bad things because others do them too

Great stuff

Is he allowed to pardon someone?

If so, then no issues

And far rather that than have a convicted, overgrown toddler rewarding all his family with jobs

GasPanic · 02/12/2024 11:58

I understand why he did it. That doesn't make it right though.

IMO the Dems have weaponized the justice system against Trump in an unprecendented way.

You can argue forever about whether that is deserved or not.

But when it's your turn out of power, just don't be surprised that what goes around comes around.

That's the sort of stuff that happens when law becomes a continuation of politics by other means.

sprigatito · 02/12/2024 12:02

I'd have done the same thing. Trump's presidency is going to be a four-year psychedelic cheese dream of vengeance and vindictiveness. You bet I'd be insulating my kid against that if I could. Biden is elderly, his political career is over, and it's normal for outgoing presidents to pardon a few people close to them. He's been a lot less extravagant about it than Trump.

SinnerBoy · 02/12/2024 13:06

Compare and contrast Biden with Adam "Isla Bryson" Graham's mother. She is in the papers today, saying that he should have got 20 years, not 8.

Biden has pulled a crappy trick here, but he's in no way comparable to the Despicable Trump.

Vaxtable · 02/12/2024 13:09

Well i have no doubt Donald will be pardoning himself at the end of his term

Lemonyfuckit · 02/12/2024 13:22

I suspect Biden thinks yeah, there's no integrity in this but fuck it, who knows what Trump will do so I'm going to protect my son. The place is a bin fire.

thesilvermoon · 02/12/2024 13:25

Vaxtable · 02/12/2024 13:09

Well i have no doubt Donald will be pardoning himself at the end of his term

Oh, I don't think he'll wait that long! Jan 21, the day after inauguration, he'll be all Pardon me.

MrsPeregrine · 02/12/2024 13:26

thesilvermoon · 02/12/2024 13:25

Oh, I don't think he'll wait that long! Jan 21, the day after inauguration, he'll be all Pardon me.

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Well Biden has done it with his son so who could blame him 🤷‍♀️

thesilvermoon · 02/12/2024 13:44

MrsPeregrine · 02/12/2024 13:26

Well Biden has done it with his son so who could blame him 🤷‍♀️

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I don't know - maybe people who are against insurrection, for starters.

Butchyrestingface · 02/12/2024 13:51

MrsPeregrine · 02/12/2024 13:26

Well Biden has done it with his son so who could blame him 🤷‍♀️

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Biden's son wasn't president of the United States of America. He doesn't require a pardon in order not to have to lead the country from a jail cell.

user44221 · 02/12/2024 14:11

Menopausalsourpuss · 02/12/2024 09:15

This made me laugh. For "progressives"/lefties (whatever you want to call them)if the other side gets in (or brexit) it's because the voters are low info thickies. Of course when their side wins the voters have miraculously become more intelligent and informed again (????).

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Kind of like how with "Magas"/Trump cultists (whatever you want to call them) if he loses, it's because the election was rigged and the voting system is broken, but if he wins it's miraculously become free and fair again (????).

hellohellooo · 02/12/2024 14:16

Biden is a
Equal to trump

I have said it time and time again

Both awful awful humans

MrsTerryPratchett · 02/12/2024 14:27

ChessorBuckaroo · 02/12/2024 05:31

This narcissistic, self absorbed, power hungry (had to be pushed out), egotistical maniac is currently funding a genocide.

And what do you mean "end of standards"? Since when were there any? Biden is just the latest in a long line of presidents who have either directly committed human rights abuses of people viewed as less than, or been complicit in it.

george washington advocating the complete evisceration of a Native settlement, and signing into law the fugitive slave act 1793 guaranteeing a slavemaster (such as himself) the return of African slaves to their masters who had escaped a plantation.
thomas jefferson raping at least one of his 600 African slaves, wrote, "blacks are inferior to whites in the endowments of body and mind", also dehumanised the Natives as "savages" in the white settler document the 'declaration' on an occupied peoples land. The Natives are PEOPLE. He's the savage.
theodore roosevelt on the Natives: "I don't believe the only good Indians are dead Indians, but I believe nine out of ten are".

Faces of these three tyrants are carved into "mt rushmore" (carving done by a Ku Klux Klan grand wizard, Gutzon Borglum), another sacred Native site.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/07/03/mount-rushmore-gutzon-borglum-klan-stone-mountain/

And the fourth white supremacist on the monument, abraham lincoln, or Abe as he is affectionately known by the colonising group of white settlers, stated: "I am not, nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people. I as much as any man am in favor of the superior position assigned to the white race."

There is the theft of Hawaii from its Natives. There is the crimes committed against civilians in Korea (No Gun Ri massacre), Vietnam (My Lai massacre), and over a million killed in Iraq as well as prisoner abuse (Abu Ghraib).

Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan in a recorded phone call, Reagan stated: "Last night, I tell you, to watch that thing on television, as I did, to see those, those monkeys from those African countries — damn them — they’re still uncomfortable wearing shoes!”

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ronald-reagan-called-african-u-n-delegates-monkeys-call-richard-n1037171

Richard Nixon: "I have the greatest affection for [blacks], but I know they're not going to make it for 500 years. ... The Mexicans are a different cup of tea. They have a heritage. At the present time they steal, they're dishonest, but they do have some concept of family life. They don't live like a bunch of dogs, which the Negroes do live like."

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1999-11-07-9911070165-story.html

Palestinians, facing a genocide (per UN agencies) by a group being armed to the teeth by Biden, over 42k dead, over 26k of whom are women and children.

Standards? Really?

Let's not forget Central America.

Menopausalsourpuss · 02/12/2024 15:01

user44221 · 02/12/2024 14:11

Kind of like how with "Magas"/Trump cultists (whatever you want to call them) if he loses, it's because the election was rigged and the voting system is broken, but if he wins it's miraculously become free and fair again (????).

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Yes so true, both sides have become like that but I think the lefties/progressives (whatever you call them) are worse. I can remember them calling Bush a fascist before he got in (and I know he was a disaster but no worse than Clinton imo). Now they have lost their minds over Trump and somehow think Biden is a moral person.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 02/12/2024 15:14

Cantalever · 02/12/2024 03:32

But this is his own son. Biden previously claimed he would not intervene in the juystice system on his son's behalf, or grant him clemency, bht has just gone back on all that. its like the last gasp of a feeble ruler who has lost all sense of wider issues.

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Yes he did and yes he has, but did anyone honestly expect any different from this utter fool?

We can all point out what other Presidents have done - Trump included - and we'd be right, but it's possible to focus on one issue at a time without the "but ... but ...", except that some simply can't bear criticism of anyone but Trump

JudgeJ · 02/12/2024 15:16

Cromwell1905 · 02/12/2024 05:54

And the same in the UK we voted out an ineffective lying government that supports its mates and takes freebies and replaced it with and ineffective, lying government that supports its mates and takes freebies.

people in glass houses best not throw stones

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To misqote a quotation, 'You can vote for whomever you want but the Government always wins.'