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Pissed off DH dismisses my name ideas

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Plum02 · 01/12/2024 20:42

Currently pregnant with DC1. My favourite boys name since I was a child was “Sebastian” which he knew before I was even pregnant. He said he hated it - couldn’t give a reason, to the point where it felt like he’d once said that so felt like he had to double down.

I’m now pregnant with a girl and I’ve spent a lot of time researching and coming up with name ideas. It just so happens every name I like DH apparently “hates”. So far I’ve suggested seven names I love:

  • Margot - ugly, hates it
  • Ophelia - horrible, hates it
  • Clementine - awful, hates it
  • Octavia - cars name, ridiculous
  • Etta - doesn’t even sound like a real name, awful
  • Penelope - sounds old fashioned, hates it

A few days ago I came across (and fell in love with) the name Ottilie. It’s unusual but classic, feminine and pretty. I thought it would be uncontroversial! I told him I’d found another name I love and before I even told him what it was he was rolling his eyes like “oh god, here we go”. Before I told him I said “you don’t have to respond straight away when I tell you, just take some time to think about it” - thinking that his automatic reaction seems to be to dismiss the names I suggest but if he thinks about it he might actually like it!

Of course as soon as I said it he said it he said “that is awful, I’m not calling my child otter”. I said “it’s Ottilie, the NN could be Tilly” then he starts telling a story about a pregnant 17 year old called Tilly (he has a public facing job).

He says I’m over-reacting to be annoyed just because he doesn’t like a name but I feel utterly depressed. He brings nothing to the table but it feels like before I even suggest something he’s made his mind up not to like it which feels so disrespectful. I also want to have a name I love, not just settle for something and it feels like I’ve exhausted all those names having gone through thousands to pick out the ones I love.

I feel like most men would be so much more laid back about girl’s names and let their wife take the lead, unless it’s something they truly hate - but how can he truly hate every name I come up with!

OP posts:
Plum02 · 02/12/2024 00:29

StandingSideBySide · 02/12/2024 00:25

Another way of approaching it is asking your dh, and yourself, what you would hope for in your child’s character and then find names that have that meaning

You can literally google
names that mean kind for example and you’ll get a list.

just a thought OP

Thanks, I like this idea!

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adriftinadenofvipers · 02/12/2024 00:29

Plum02 · 02/12/2024 00:17

There’s a difference between a name happening to feature in books and films and choosing a name based on a film or book you like. I don’t want to name my DC after someone. That doesn’t mean I don’t want anyone to share the same name.

Someone else is always going to have the same name unless you literally make one up. Your replies are really snippy. Your poor DH is probably afraid to suggest anything if that's your attitude to him as well!

SerenePeach · 02/12/2024 00:29

Plum02 · 01/12/2024 23:55

I responded in the way I interpreted the comment. To me it sounded like she was saying we should find common ground by naming DC after a film, book or band and those were the examples she gave. I explained I wouldn’t want to name my DC after someone in that way and would prefer to find a name we like in it’s own right. I didn’t respond in an argumentative way - it’s you who seems to want to argue.

I don't want to name my child after a famous person

Well all anyone will think of when hearing Margot is Margot Robbie and Barbie and Harley Quinn.

Plum02 · 02/12/2024 00:32

Pinkpurpletulips · 02/12/2024 00:27

One of my children had an unusual name. It was a real name. But people mangled it, misspelt it etc. (They eventually changed it.) My next child had a very standard name - not very common but at least everybody knew how to spell it and say it. I think with Ottilie you'll probably end up with a daughter called Otter who spends a lifetime spelling out her name.

As for the others, people will promise the silent "t" in Margot. I agree that Etta doesn't sound like a real name. I quite like the classical name Octavia but the car thing? If you really like Etta what about Harriet or Henrietta with Etta as a nickname?

If you want a classical name what about Athena? Or Diana the Roman version of Athena? Or Marina?

Those are nice ideas but I’d like it if he made suggestions like that! If he’d said “I’m not keen on Etta but how about Henrietta” I’d feel much better! Instead it feels like I have to come up with the ideas, only for them to be completely dismissed and laughed at.

I’m going to try some of the suggestions on this thread to get him more engaged in the process.

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adriftinadenofvipers · 02/12/2024 00:32

RogueFemale · 02/12/2024 00:19

You may think Venetia, Sibylla or Pandora are awful and pretentious. Just your opinion and not everyone agrees with you.

Pandora is a brand of jewellery!!!

I guess more people would agree with me than not. Partly because in my 61 years I have never met anyone called Venetia, Sibylla or Pandora, which suggests that people don't rate them as names!

Topsyturvy78 · 02/12/2024 00:34

I agree with your DH. The only one I like is Penelope. Ottilie is awful. If you want something unusual pick a traditional name. Not something that sounds made up. My name was rare when I was in infant and junior school. I never met anyone with the same name until I started secondary school. I wanted to be called Karen.

Plum02 · 02/12/2024 00:34

adriftinadenofvipers · 02/12/2024 00:29

Someone else is always going to have the same name unless you literally make one up. Your replies are really snippy. Your poor DH is probably afraid to suggest anything if that's your attitude to him as well!

I literally just said “that doesn’t mean I don’t want my child to share the same name as someone else” ie. Of course there will be lots of people with the same name! All I’ve said is I want to choose a name because we like it rather than because we associate it with someone else we like. If I’m snippy it’s because explaining this a dozen times is incredibly tiresome. It seems like some people are wilfully misunderstanding.

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StandingSideBySide · 02/12/2024 00:36

SerenePeach · 02/12/2024 00:29

I don't want to name my child after a famous person

Well all anyone will think of when hearing Margot is Margot Robbie and Barbie and Harley Quinn.

I don’t think of Margot as Margot Robbie ?
If I had to come up with someone called Margot I’d think of Margot Durrell.

everyone doesn’t think the same

cantarguewithfools · 02/12/2024 00:36

Names just invoke a gut reaction in the people who dislike them, so I understand why it’s difficult for your DH to “discuss” it or give you a reason why - it really is just a flat no, no reason necessary.

This is especially true for the kinds of names you’ve picked, which all fall within the same category and are polarising - they’re not the kind of names where you think “maybe not”, they’re “maybe yes”, “yes”, or “absolutely not, no chance in hell” names.

Can’t you pick 3 or 5 names each? Rule out any absolute nos and see if you can compromise on anything that’s left.

adriftinadenofvipers · 02/12/2024 00:38

Plum02 · 02/12/2024 00:34

I literally just said “that doesn’t mean I don’t want my child to share the same name as someone else” ie. Of course there will be lots of people with the same name! All I’ve said is I want to choose a name because we like it rather than because we associate it with someone else we like. If I’m snippy it’s because explaining this a dozen times is incredibly tiresome. It seems like some people are wilfully misunderstanding.

Why don't you just ask your DH for suggestions???

I liked Rebecca when we were having DC1. DH was less keen. When he'd seen me have a c/section after 3 failed attempts at induction, he said, "call her Rebecca if you want". I said no, because she didn't look like a Rebecca.

RogueFemale · 02/12/2024 00:44

adriftinadenofvipers · 02/12/2024 00:32

Pandora is a brand of jewellery!!!

I guess more people would agree with me than not. Partly because in my 61 years I have never met anyone called Venetia, Sibylla or Pandora, which suggests that people don't rate them as names!

Before Pandora was a jewellery brand, it was the name of a woman in Greek mythology.

The fact that you've never met anyone called Venetia, Sibylla or Pandora evidences nothing except perhaps a fairly narrow social sphere.

cantarguewithfools · 02/12/2024 00:47

Could something like Olivia be a compromise? Perhaps a more down-to-earth alternative to Ophelia/Octavia?

RogueFemale · 02/12/2024 00:49

@Plum02 How about Plum? It's very pretty.

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 02/12/2024 00:51

StandingSideBySide · 02/12/2024 00:36

I don’t think of Margot as Margot Robbie ?
If I had to come up with someone called Margot I’d think of Margot Durrell.

everyone doesn’t think the same

Margot Asquith, Margot Kidder and Margot Fonteyn

adriftinadenofvipers · 02/12/2024 00:51

RogueFemale · 02/12/2024 00:44

Before Pandora was a jewellery brand, it was the name of a woman in Greek mythology.

The fact that you've never met anyone called Venetia, Sibylla or Pandora evidences nothing except perhaps a fairly narrow social sphere.

Edited

I have an extremely wide social sphere, what a bizarre thing to say!!!

I meet countless people in the course of my work, through my friends, through my siblings' friends and through my three children. I work for an organisation with 44,000 employees and I have never met a Venetia, a Sybilla or a Pandora. My knowledge of Greek and Roman civilisation is probably way broader than yours, but the fact remains that in 2024 people are going to associate Pandora with a charm bracelet.

StandingSideBySide · 02/12/2024 00:52

adriftinadenofvipers · 02/12/2024 00:32

Pandora is a brand of jewellery!!!

I guess more people would agree with me than not. Partly because in my 61 years I have never met anyone called Venetia, Sibylla or Pandora, which suggests that people don't rate them as names!

Venetia used to be a popular name in Italy ….Latin ie Venice
dont know if it still is

StandingSideBySide · 02/12/2024 00:56

adriftinadenofvipers · 02/12/2024 00:51

I have an extremely wide social sphere, what a bizarre thing to say!!!

I meet countless people in the course of my work, through my friends, through my siblings' friends and through my three children. I work for an organisation with 44,000 employees and I have never met a Venetia, a Sybilla or a Pandora. My knowledge of Greek and Roman civilisation is probably way broader than yours, but the fact remains that in 2024 people are going to associate Pandora with a charm bracelet.

I’d think of Pandora’s box and the first woman on earth

Pandoras jewellery wouldn’t occur to me but I’m not that into jewellery so 🤷‍♀️

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 02/12/2024 00:56

boysinbars · 01/12/2024 23:57

To add, Ophelia drowned herself in a mad grief. Never quite get that one. Although it’s better than Tamora, who unwittingly ate her sons in a pie, I guess.

To be fair I was quite keen on Phaedra, which as outcomes go is possibly worse than Ophelia's.

EvilsElsasPetSnowman · 02/12/2024 00:57

RogueFemale · 02/12/2024 00:19

You may think Venetia, Sibylla or Pandora are awful and pretentious. Just your opinion and not everyone agrees with you.

But do you really think given that OP’s DH doesn’t even like Ophelia, that he’d like those names?

Sibylla sounds like a disease

StandingSideBySide · 02/12/2024 00:57

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 02/12/2024 00:56

To be fair I was quite keen on Phaedra, which as outcomes go is possibly worse than Ophelia's.

What happened to Phaedra I’ve never heard of her

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 02/12/2024 00:58

StandingSideBySide · 02/12/2024 00:56

I’d think of Pandora’s box and the first woman on earth

Pandoras jewellery wouldn’t occur to me but I’m not that into jewellery so 🤷‍♀️

Same here. There's a Pandora in Adrian Mole too. Pandora makes me think of the myth, the song by Procul Harum.

EvilsElsasPetSnowman · 02/12/2024 00:59

RogueFemale · 02/12/2024 00:44

Before Pandora was a jewellery brand, it was the name of a woman in Greek mythology.

The fact that you've never met anyone called Venetia, Sibylla or Pandora evidences nothing except perhaps a fairly narrow social sphere.

Edited

I’ve never met a woman with any of those names. Perhaps because I don’t live in a Narnia novel

adriftinadenofvipers · 02/12/2024 01:01

StandingSideBySide · 02/12/2024 00:56

I’d think of Pandora’s box and the first woman on earth

Pandoras jewellery wouldn’t occur to me but I’m not that into jewellery so 🤷‍♀️

I think most young women would think of the jewellery tbh.

I'm not a huge fan but I did recently buy two of their charms that are unique to Rome.

PomPomtheGreat · 02/12/2024 01:01

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I would never post my children's names on Mumsnet!

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