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To think DH did nothing wrong here?

456 replies

Challas · 29/11/2024 21:21

On my way to do the school run in the dark I nearly slammed into a little black car that was broken down just around a blind on our very rural 60 mile an hour road. I noticed a woman alone sitting in the car. I called DH and asked him to go at least put cones around the car but also to offer to the woman for him to stay with her (in his car) or come stand on our drive so she didn't get killed sitting in the car. He went up to her and she politely declined (all fine but he was legitimately afraid for her). He did then drive back around the bend and sat there with his hazards on to slow any cars coming down. Eventually the recovery van came for her and all was well until a few hours later we had the police at the door saying this woman reported DH for having made her feel threatened!? He's now said in the future he just won't even offer help if he's in the same position again. The police were fairly aggressive with wanting to know exactly what he said and did so clearly she was very uncomfortable.

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GeneralPeter · 30/11/2024 13:50

ValleyKings · 29/11/2024 22:34

I’d find it extremely odd if I told an unknown man I didn’t want his help and then he took it upon himself to hang around anyway.

If Iv said no I don’t want someone’s help then it means leave me alone. It doesn’t mean park up behind me and make me feel uncomfortable.

But if you're doing something that endangers you and others, then the situation's different, surely?

Even if it's just endangering you, there's an argument for intervening.

Let's say the woman sat in the dark on a blind corner on a fast road has a 1/20 chance of being killed. Doesn't that warrant intervening?

Someone running across a motorway might face similar odds. Wouldn't you stop them if you could safely do so?

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 30/11/2024 13:54

If he was 'sitting on the bend' then he wasn't near the woman's car and there would have been no reason (in her mind) to report him, surely?

shuggles · 30/11/2024 15:11

@Marblesbackagain No idea where that quote is from but cheers I don't need a man to protect me it ain't the early man ages.

Then perhaps you need to tell that to all of the women who keep lecturing men to speak up, or step in, whenever they see women being harassed or in trouble.

Marblesbackagain · 30/11/2024 15:56

shuggles · 30/11/2024 15:11

@Marblesbackagain No idea where that quote is from but cheers I don't need a man to protect me it ain't the early man ages.

Then perhaps you need to tell that to all of the women who keep lecturing men to speak up, or step in, whenever they see women being harassed or in trouble.

Why is that my job? I don't tell anyone to do anything so how on earth are you linking it as my job to ?

FenywHysbys · 30/11/2024 15:59

Your DH did nothing wrong - tell him ‘no good deed goes unpunished’…

MereDintofPandiculation · 30/11/2024 16:36

Isatis · 29/11/2024 23:14

Why would she be in danger of being raped when she was sitting in her (presumably locked) car, just because someone parks round the corner and puts his hazards on? One question arising from this is why she didn't think to put hazards on herself.

We know there was at least one house nearby.

I was answering the people who were saying she should get out of her car and stand in the road persuading drivers to slow down. So she wouldn't be in her locked car.

betterangels · 30/11/2024 18:15

shuggles · 30/11/2024 15:11

@Marblesbackagain No idea where that quote is from but cheers I don't need a man to protect me it ain't the early man ages.

Then perhaps you need to tell that to all of the women who keep lecturing men to speak up, or step in, whenever they see women being harassed or in trouble.

Do as OP's husband and stop helping. Who wants the police round their house because they tried to help? Not worth it.

TheQuirkyMaker · 30/11/2024 22:20

There is always more to these stories when the "I am the innocent victim" claims are investigated.
I'm guessing the female motorist was attractive, she told DH she had already phoned for help and vehicle recovery were on their way, and she did not want him hanging around her. Instead he tried to persuade her to sit in his car, go to his house, offered to sit in her car with her, etc., all of which would have led her to leave her place of safety, her locked car. I hope the police put him straight.

PixieLaLar · 30/11/2024 22:38

Why is no one else acknowledging that it was inappropriate and odd for a male stranger to suggest to this women to wait on his driveway in the dark and cold and give his address.

Was he suggesting she walk to his driveway on the 60mph rural road? Or was he in fact suggesting he take her there?

Challas · 30/11/2024 22:50

DH got lots of lovely messages on the village WhatsApp thanking him for alerting people to the woman in her car. The incident inspired a conversation with our daughter about it how she should handle if she found herself in a similar situation. I changed DH to 'my Nigel' in my phone so all is not lost!

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ArtfulBee · 30/11/2024 22:57

PixieLaLar · 30/11/2024 22:38

Why is no one else acknowledging that it was inappropriate and odd for a male stranger to suggest to this women to wait on his driveway in the dark and cold and give his address.

Was he suggesting she walk to his driveway on the 60mph rural road? Or was he in fact suggesting he take her there?

What on earth is inappropriate about it?

And even if you think its inappropriate, if the woman's options were sit in her dark car around a blind bend (which had already resulted in a near miss), stand on the road (even more dangerous) or walk around the corner to stand on someone's driveway, where she won't be hit by a car, surely the latter option is the best?

ArtfulBee · 30/11/2024 23:03

TheQuirkyMaker · 30/11/2024 22:20

There is always more to these stories when the "I am the innocent victim" claims are investigated.
I'm guessing the female motorist was attractive, she told DH she had already phoned for help and vehicle recovery were on their way, and she did not want him hanging around her. Instead he tried to persuade her to sit in his car, go to his house, offered to sit in her car with her, etc., all of which would have led her to leave her place of safety, her locked car. I hope the police put him straight.

But he didn't offer to get into her car, or for her to get into his.

And "her place of safety"? Where she'd already nearly been hit by another car? She was not only herself in danger, but she was endangering others' lives too.

She had the option of leaving her car and getting off the road (waiting on the driveway instead), or waiting in her car but with DH parked next to her with his hazard lights on. She refused both. While she is perfectly entitled to risk her own life if she wants, she does not have a free pass to endanger others.

adriftinadenofvipers · 01/12/2024 00:14

Newdaynewstarts · 30/11/2024 04:38

Yabu. Why didn’t you sit with her. I wouldn’t have appreciated that either. I don’t need a random man coming to my aid.

You clearly missed the part where the OP said she was on the school run??

adriftinadenofvipers · 01/12/2024 00:17

marmamia · 30/11/2024 05:40

I apologise. I really try not to correct other people's language but "ver batum" is a step too far.
In case you don't know it's one word verbatim. The common meaning is "quoted". Though there are some slightly different meanings. Sorry but it was driving me up the wall that nobody commented on that. @Marblesbackagain
And it's pedalled unless you thought they were selling stolen items or drugs,
Phew. I feel better now. Sorry to all the non language pedants out there (i.e. normal people). Cheers . And yes you can begin a sentence with "And".
Hope that's cleared everything up.

It was drilled into me as a child not to start a sentence with and, but or because!

I still don't.

adriftinadenofvipers · 01/12/2024 00:19

BriannaCranston · 30/11/2024 06:40

But how would this have helped with the road obstruction? How would her leaving her car to stand on your driveway helped the road obstruction either?

The fact of the matter is that a strange man approached her on a dark, rural road when her car had broken down and did not leave her alone when she asked him to. She had already done everything she could do to fix the situation. By that point he will have seen what she looked like and gotten her license plate number. That is a dangerous situation for a woman to be in. I would have called the police too.

She really hadn't when she was still sitting in her car, and she hadn't even put the hazard warning lights on plus she was driving a dark-coloured car in the actual dark??

Can you really not see what's wrong with this?

ArtfulBee · 01/12/2024 00:26

adriftinadenofvipers · 01/12/2024 00:19

She really hadn't when she was still sitting in her car, and she hadn't even put the hazard warning lights on plus she was driving a dark-coloured car in the actual dark??

Can you really not see what's wrong with this?

It's staggering isn't it?

To be fair to the woman in question, perhaps she was flustered, or an inexperienced driver, or just not intelligent enough to realize in the moment the risk she was causing not only to herself but to other drivers.

I can understand making bad/dangerous decisions in the moment but people defending those decisions as being good/correct, after the fact, shows an alarming level of ignorance and/or self-centeredness.

adriftinadenofvipers · 01/12/2024 00:32

YellowAsteroid · 30/11/2024 07:00

It’s a pity you and your DH couldn’t have both offered help - or you could have waited and your DH continued the school run.

it’s tough for your DH to be suspected when he’s a good man, but this is the cost of male violence. Women are not wrong to be very very careful.

And we know that men have used the excuse of “Let me help you” to attack women.

Instead of resenting this woman, can you and your DH think about what he could do to encourage other men to behave better? He can do little things like calling out mates who say disrespectful things. If you have boys, raise them to call out sexist behaviour as well.

Endemic male violence is tough on the good men but they should not be resentful. They need to understand why women feel threatened and suspicious. Women are acting rationally in the light of our experiences.

Yeah sure it happens every day. Pervs just sitting there waiting for a woman to break down. If I had been worried, I'd have locked myself in my car - but then I shouldn't have stayed in said car because of the risk of another car hitting me

I can't get my head round this demonising of men as a species!!! It's a tiny minority that are out to do us harm!!

adriftinadenofvipers · 01/12/2024 00:33

Marblesbackagain · 30/11/2024 07:37

If course dearest I bought my PhD ofd Amazon 🤣🤣🤣

Clearly.

adriftinadenofvipers · 01/12/2024 00:35

rosehipstalk · 30/11/2024 08:30

I agree with this. Your husband was very kind to help, thats not in doubt but if I was stranded in a broken down car and a strange man suggested I sit in his car I would be very very wary too. Women are told constantly to be wary of men they dont know with random offers of help because thats exactly the situation that has ended up in women being raped and killed sadly. Surely you can see that from her perspective?

Just because your husband has a wife and a child doesnt mean he isnt a potential risk to her, plenty of women have been murdered by men with families. Wayne Couzins had a wife!

Wayne Cousens was an exception!!

adriftinadenofvipers · 01/12/2024 00:37

RawBloomers · 30/11/2024 08:31

Could have been an hour, or it could have been five minutes. He didn’t phone the police, though. He asked the woman if she wanted his assistance and then ignored what she said and waited anyway. I doubt he’d have waited round the bend if it had been a burly bloke in the car who’d told him no.

Crap, I can't see any evidence to suggest he wouldn't have done the same for a man!

Fair play to him for ignoring the silly woman and looking out for other drivers who could have lost their lives or been seriously injured crashing into her!

ArtfulBee · 01/12/2024 00:47

adriftinadenofvipers · 01/12/2024 00:37

Crap, I can't see any evidence to suggest he wouldn't have done the same for a man!

Fair play to him for ignoring the silly woman and looking out for other drivers who could have lost their lives or been seriously injured crashing into her!

Exactly. When she declined assistance, he gave her space and went back around the corner to put his hazards on to stop other people (potentially his neighbors and friends) from getting into an accident - hence all the messages of gratitude he's had from them today.

I can't see any reason to think he'd have done any different were it biggest, burliest bloke in the broken down car.

I understand her fear, I really do, but her being scared doesn't trump the safety/lives of others - and by going around the corner DH was doing the best thing possible to balance both.

adriftinadenofvipers · 01/12/2024 00:56

ClairDeLaLune · 30/11/2024 09:06

Sorry but what your DH did was pretty creepy. She told him she didn’t need help but he sat round the corner like a weird stalker. Yet another man thinking he knows what’s best for the pathetic little woman. I would’ve been really scared of him if I’d been her, like the situation isn’t bad enough already without some weirdo hanging around. Your DH needs to learn to respect women’s wishes and be mindful of boundaries.

Edited

Utter bullshit.

"Creepy"?? He tried to help the idiot who put her own and others' lives at risk!

auscan · 01/12/2024 00:58

I don't think your husband did anything wrong. He was trying to protect the woman and other drivers and likely prevented a bad accident. You're both decent people.

adriftinadenofvipers · 01/12/2024 00:59

YellowAsteroid · 30/11/2024 09:15

Exactly.

The good men need to really start to understand this.

When you see the level of overreaction here, I wouldn't for one minute blame "the good men" if they just paid a blind eye.

They get fuck all thanks for helping out, because the little woman is scared, and the big man might attack her. Fuck that for a game of soldiers!

adriftinadenofvipers · 01/12/2024 01:04

Wordsmithery · 30/11/2024 10:05

I think all men should be aware how their actions may be interpreted by women. He knows he was trying to help, but she didn't know that. If she lets him help and all is well, next time - with not such a nice bloke - her guard may be down.
FWIW, I would be creeped out if some random guy was sitting in a car behind me in the dark.
The obvious thing was to get the husband to do the school run, as they were so close to OP's home, or call the police.

I think that's a load of shit. Of course she knew he was trying to help and she created the situation!!

All of us women know that most men don't mean us any harm. Especially when we find ourselves in an emergency.

The world has gone to hell in a handcart.