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Dee Devlin (Conor McGregor's partner) victim blaming a rape victim

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Cartwrightandson · 27/11/2024 06:36

Conor has posted a few times, then deleted, check tatt.le.life thread for the screenshots...but this from Dee is crazy...he went out cheating on you at 8 months pregnant, he's had at least 5 sexual assault claims, he is linked to Irish gangster, he publicly cheated on you several times and poor Nikita was badly bruised and had to have a tampon removed via forceps....will Dee be warning her daughter of men like her father?

Dee Devlin (Conor McGregor's partner) victim blaming a rape victim
Dee Devlin (Conor McGregor's partner) victim blaming a rape victim
Dee Devlin (Conor McGregor's partner) victim blaming a rape victim
Dee Devlin (Conor McGregor's partner) victim blaming a rape victim
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BarbaraHoward · 27/11/2024 11:50

ContactNightmare · 27/11/2024 11:49

Why is there much idea that the wife is better than her husband? They both sound like self absorbed scumbags. He’s a monster according to the courts and she is along for the ride. No wonder the victim went public.

Whether she's a victim of domestic abuse or not, we're not aware that she has raped or beaten anyone. So yes, she is much better than her partner.

Tiredandteasytoday · 27/11/2024 11:54

Holymoleyitscold · 27/11/2024 11:34

Im not blaming her. My orginal post was that I don’t understand the vigils - people turning out to show their support. At what point do people have to take some responsibility for their actions?

if I deliberately decide to bring myself into the company of and go to the hotel room of a notorious monster to get drugged up, a man who has been accused of sexual assault before and whose reputation as a moral-less egomaniac I’d expect trouble. She was a mother, with a partner out with a group off friends - she made choices and I get it very hard to believe that she didn’t know these choices would put her in a very dangerous situation.

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You are blaming her and your original post was vile. I see its been deleted and a number of posters up thread reported it.

Go look up the meaning of the word 'blame'. He left her black and blue, marks atound her neck, with a tampon that needed surgical removal, no matter how drunk or drugged no one deserves that. He behaved like an animal and you suggested she should have known better. How about the man who is a MMA fighter just doesn't beat up women? Is that too much to ask the stupid entitled man!

Women like you making excuses add to the problem. Don't be an excuser for rapists and men who beat women. Raise your bar a bit.

ContactNightmare · 27/11/2024 11:56

She seems totally content to wheel up, do the support posts, attend court, and benefit from this monstrous man. Her commitment and her posts are odious. He’s a rapist. Mealy mouthed enabler I think.

Tiredandteasytoday · 27/11/2024 11:56

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Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

It's appalling that posters describe victims this way. I'd hoped we moved forward as a society, it appears not.

InconsideratelyThoughtful · 27/11/2024 11:56

Holymoleyitscold · 27/11/2024 11:44

Don’t be daft but I’ll try my best and raise my daughters so that they won’t fraternise with monsters like McGregor. I’ll also try and raise them to realise that every choice has consequences and we have to do our best to make the right choices.

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And what if one of your daughters marries a lovely man who is welcomed wholeheartedly by all of you into the family and he rapes her. Will that still be her fault, because she chose to marry a man she didn't know was a rapist?

Tiredandteasytoday · 27/11/2024 11:58

Holymoleyitscold · 27/11/2024 11:44

Don’t be daft but I’ll try my best and raise my daughters so that they won’t fraternise with monsters like McGregor. I’ll also try and raise them to realise that every choice has consequences and we have to do our best to make the right choices.

Edited

So if your daughter makes a 'wrong choice ' it's on her then. She deserves what occurs? She drinks too much and is assaulted and your reply sounds like 'well you should make better choices'. Good grief it's medieval.

Surroundedbyheadsandbodies · 27/11/2024 12:00

Namechangeobviously2024 · 27/11/2024 06:51

Another way of looking at it: she has 4 kids. No money. Her horrible partner is extremely horrible and very very wealthy indeed. She must doubt whether she would be safe or ever able to see her kids again if she leaves.

100% agree with this. Even if she has money, his connection to gangsters / the most brutal crime gangs who go after people and hospitalise them will hardly make her and her family feel safe if she dares to leave.

Superworm24 · 27/11/2024 12:07

Holymoleyitscold · 27/11/2024 11:34

Im not blaming her. My orginal post was that I don’t understand the vigils - people turning out to show their support. At what point do people have to take some responsibility for their actions?

if I deliberately decide to bring myself into the company of and go to the hotel room of a notorious monster to get drugged up, a man who has been accused of sexual assault before and whose reputation as a moral-less egomaniac I’d expect trouble. She was a mother, with a partner out with a group off friends - she made choices and I get it very hard to believe that she didn’t know these choices would put her in a very dangerous situation.

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I'm all for personal responsibility. No one is saying that she didnt make some bad choices. But what about him? What about his personal responsibility, he's not an animal. We really need to move away from speaking about men as if they cannot control themselves. Like they just have these urges and can't stop themselves from attacking and raping women.

And in your previous posts did you not accuse her of lying about the rape for money?

Rowen32 · 27/11/2024 12:09

Holymoleyitscold · 27/11/2024 11:44

Don’t be daft but I’ll try my best and raise my daughters so that they won’t fraternise with monsters like McGregor. I’ll also try and raise them to realise that every choice has consequences and we have to do our best to make the right choices.

Edited

But you're still victim blaming

BackinBlack24 · 27/11/2024 12:09

Cartwrightandson · 27/11/2024 07:23

I think there's a real possibility that he abuses her too

Where is that screenshot from ? Just wondering as I never heard anything about it but well believe it

Holymoleyitscold · 27/11/2024 12:10

Tiredandteasytoday · 27/11/2024 11:58

So if your daughter makes a 'wrong choice ' it's on her then. She deserves what occurs? She drinks too much and is assaulted and your reply sounds like 'well you should make better choices'. Good grief it's medieval.

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Absolutely not. My daughters and sons will always have my full support whenever they need me. Who knows what’s down the line no matter what I do but I will try to raise them that they won’t fraternise with scumbags like McGregor.

Rumors1 · 27/11/2024 12:11

I think what @Holymoleyitscold is saying is that the dogs in the street know that CMcG is a scumbag rapist who has been alleged to have raped loads of women and paid them off. Any woman going into a hotel room with him to take drugs and have sex knows there is a very good chance that he will get violent and rape them.
I dont think that is victim blaming but laying out some common sense truth about the likelihood of things ending up the way they did.
Of course what he did was repugnant, he absolutely disgusts me but his reputation precedes him and that is a fact every women who enters his company should take into account.

Rowen32 · 27/11/2024 12:11

Holymoleyitscold · 27/11/2024 12:10

Absolutely not. My daughters and sons will always have my full support whenever they need me. Who knows what’s down the line no matter what I do but I will try to raise them that they won’t fraternise with scumbags like McGregor.

But if you're sending the message bad choices can lead you to being raped, then if God forbid it ever happened your child is going to internalise and blame themselves because of what you're saying, rather than teaching that it is never acceptable and never their fault

Happiestwhen · 27/11/2024 12:12

CKN · 27/11/2024 10:58

Can you confirm your evidence of this or is it just hearsay?

Not saying that I don’t believe you but I don’t remember reading about this.

It was an 18 yo Romanian girl who was begging on the streets. They promised to take her to McDonalds while her young brother looked on. Took her to a house, raped & murdered her. Set fire to the house after. Mariora Rostas. Heartbreaking story.

Motnight · 27/11/2024 12:20

Rowen32 · 27/11/2024 12:09

But you're still victim blaming

And parent blaming! If I raise my children right then they will never make unwise decisions. If only it were that simple.

Hoppinggreen · 27/11/2024 12:22

Motnight · 27/11/2024 12:20

And parent blaming! If I raise my children right then they will never make unwise decisions. If only it were that simple.

It seems that that person thinks that if you raise your children properly it prevents them from being victims of a crime, awful attitude

ChubbyBubbyBoo · 27/11/2024 12:23

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viques · 27/11/2024 12:26

Wait until you have walked a mile in someone else’s shoes before you condemn them. I don’t know what the situation with coercive control is in ROI, but even if there is good legislation backed up by police and court support, the attitude towards women in Ireland ( here I am including NI) stinks through hundreds of years of religious bigotry and general misogyny.

This is a man who is already seething and furious that a woman has dared to challenge him and win, in her shoes would you post anything that he might find triggering?

Holymoleyitscold · 27/11/2024 12:31

InconsideratelyThoughtful · 27/11/2024 11:56

And what if one of your daughters marries a lovely man who is welcomed wholeheartedly by all of you into the family and he rapes her. Will that still be her fault, because she chose to marry a man she didn't know was a rapist?

@InconsideratelyThoughtful this doesn’t make sense. Nikita knew McG isn’t a lovely man. She knew there were previous accusations of sexual assault. She knew of the sextape with his wife he posted on social media. She knew he was a vile scum bag.

Over and out everybody. I seem to have caused a lot of controversy. I still believe that he is absolutely subhuman but for whatever reason Nikita had a plan. She knew he was a dangerous scumbag with a partner and kids but because of his fame/ money decided to pair up/take drugs/party with/go to a hotel room with him and his friend. I was always taught that you can’t play with fire and the complain about getting burned. A person has to take responsibility for their choices.

My sympathies lie elsewhere like with the thousands of victims of the Alex McCartney.

TheignT · 27/11/2024 12:31

Beezknees · 27/11/2024 07:38

I don't feel sorry for her at all. We don't have to just because she's a woman. She's a horrible piece of work and Conor is scum.

She's got 4 kids, imagine thinking you want to leave this man but he might get 50/50 with the children without you there to protect them. I don't know what she's like but I can imagine it isn't straightforward.

VictoriaSpungecake · 27/11/2024 12:31

Gardendiary · 27/11/2024 10:36

I would say its about as close to impossible as you could get. He's got links to organised crime, she's not living in a world where the normal rules apply.

I agree.

I wish the public could be more educated around this stuff. It takes ages to leave an abusive partner, not because it takes ages for you to "come to your senses" but because it takes ages to work out how you're going to do it safely, because the risk of being killed is so high. I really wish people would try to read between the lines when they hear of someone "going back" to or "staying with" an abusive partner. If this was common knowledge it would be so much easier for the victim.

NonPlayerCharacter · 27/11/2024 12:32

It's hard to admit you made a shitawful choice of life partner and take your heart back. It's easier to fool someone than to get them to see they've been fooled. Coercive control is a thing that may or may not be relevant here. Women frequently stay with revolting men, with their kids, and tell everyone he's just misunderstood and is a great dad and the love of a good woman heals him. See first sentence...

BarbaraHoward · 27/11/2024 12:38

viques · 27/11/2024 12:26

Wait until you have walked a mile in someone else’s shoes before you condemn them. I don’t know what the situation with coercive control is in ROI, but even if there is good legislation backed up by police and court support, the attitude towards women in Ireland ( here I am including NI) stinks through hundreds of years of religious bigotry and general misogyny.

This is a man who is already seething and furious that a woman has dared to challenge him and win, in her shoes would you post anything that he might find triggering?

I don't think we need to be generalising whole nationalities based on one scumbag.

VictoriaSpungecake · 27/11/2024 12:39

Holymoleyitscold · 27/11/2024 12:31

@InconsideratelyThoughtful this doesn’t make sense. Nikita knew McG isn’t a lovely man. She knew there were previous accusations of sexual assault. She knew of the sextape with his wife he posted on social media. She knew he was a vile scum bag.

Over and out everybody. I seem to have caused a lot of controversy. I still believe that he is absolutely subhuman but for whatever reason Nikita had a plan. She knew he was a dangerous scumbag with a partner and kids but because of his fame/ money decided to pair up/take drugs/party with/go to a hotel room with him and his friend. I was always taught that you can’t play with fire and the complain about getting burned. A person has to take responsibility for their choices.

My sympathies lie elsewhere like with the thousands of victims of the Alex McCartney.

I stand with Nikita.

Whatever reason she had for going to that hotel room it is not her responsibility that she was raped.

Someone I know was raped. At the time I had a passing thought that it probably wouldn't have happened if she was sober. Thankfully, I gave my head a wobble. She is not to blame. He is.

viques · 27/11/2024 12:45

BarbaraHoward · 27/11/2024 12:38

I don't think we need to be generalising whole nationalities based on one scumbag.

If only it was just the one scum bag.